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Title: Pope Francis says Big Bang theory and evolution 'compatible with divine Creator'
Source: telegraph.co.uk
URL Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor ... tible-with-divine-Creator.html
Published: Oct 28, 2014
Author: By Nick Squires
Post Date: 2014-10-28 13:42:04 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 61638
Comments: 132

Theory universe born in cosmic explosion 13.7 billion years ago 'doesn't contradict' divine Creator but 'demands it', says pontiff

The theory of the Big Bang is compatible with the Catholic Church's teaching on creation and belief in both is possible, Pope Francis has said. The Pope insisted that God was responsible for the Big Bang, from which all life then evolved.

The Big Bang - the theory that the universe was born in a cosmic explosion about 13.7 billion years ago and has expanded and evolved since - "doesn't contradict the intervention of a divine Creator, but demands it," the Pope said.

The beginning of the world was not "the work of chaos" but part of a divine plan by the Creator, he said.

The Jesuit Pope made the remarks during an address to a meeting of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, which gathered at the Vatican to discuss "Evolving Concepts of Nature".

"Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve," he told the meeting.

God should not be regarded as some sort of "magician", waving a magic wand, he said.

"When we read about creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so," he said.

"He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that He gave to each one so they would reach fulfilment." The Pope's remarks were in line with Catholic Church teaching of the last few decades.

As far back as 1950, Pope Pius XII said that there was no intrinsic conflict between Catholic doctrine and the theory of evolution, provided that Catholics believed that the human soul was created by God and not the result of random evolutionary forces.

That stance was affirmed in 1996 by Pope John Paul II.

"The Pope's declaration is significant," said Giovanni Bignami, the president of Italy's National Institute for Astrophysics.

"We are the descendants of the Big Bang, which created the universe. You just have to think that in our blood we have a few litres of hydrogen, which was created by the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago.

"Our blood is red because it contains iron, which was created by the explosion of a star millions and millions of years ago. Out of creation came evolution."

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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Often thought the same thing. BBT, evolution.....all of it is just the way of the Creator.

4 givan 1  posted on  2014-10-28   13:46:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: 4 givan 1, liberator, Vicomte13, GarySpFc, Don (#1)

Often thought the same thing. BBT, evolution.....all of it is just the way of the Creator.

The statement by the Pope is not surprising as most Catholic universities have taught since the 50s that they see evolution and an Uncreated Creator as compatible. What they don't say is if the Holy Scriptures are compatible.

There is, right there the error. Because if we believe the Scriptures are inspired of God and teach Truth, and not error, then evolution is incompatible. At least the evolution preached (yes preached) today.

It is easy to say and comfortable to say at a cocktail party "I'm a Christian and see no issues with believing God used Big Bang and evolution for creation." Such makes a person the Belle of the ball and we get nods of approval. But when we dig why others believe in evolution it is because they deny or just can't believe some uncreated Being could do such. Their entry argument is there is no God and big bang and evolution happened by a lot of chance and a whole lot of time.

You might add as a believer "God can do anything, and could have created using the Big Bang and had His Divine Hand in every step of evolution." Sure God could have and there is a lot of the creation "event" we don't know, but what God DID reveal faithful Christians and Jews know is right there in Genesis chapter 1 and part of 2.

We see in what is revealed God made man and woman in His own Image. Not from a long process of transitional life forms or simians, but His Image and likeness:

26 Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.(ESV)

Does Genesis rule out specie adaptation? No it does not. A bird's beak can change based on the conditions surrounding it, but it never ceases being a bird. A fish is a fish, a human a human. For a fish to become a land crawling or walking creature through evolution we would not only need chance and a whole lot of time, we would need some transitional life forms showing the complete change from swimming with gills to walking with lungs. At least one transitional form which had both lungs and gills, and fins with also feet. We don't have these examples so no one can say such happened with certainty.

We are Christians here so I am applying that to the discussion. So if we see Genesis 1-2 we observe what God revealed. God said He did it all. Atheists, some agnostics and generally skeptics cling to Big Bang and evolution because it gives them an "answer" a most incomplete answer, yet an answer to believe in origins without a Creator/Designer. And instead of a Creator/Designer the skeptics explain away a Designed creation as "unexplained chance with billions of years to make it happen." And they base this on what evidence exactly? None. They conjecture that since there is no God, it had to happen by chance. Wow and they say we take a blind leap in the dark!

Which is another topic of discussion.

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