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Published: Oct 14, 2014
Author: CZ82
Post Date: 2014-10-14 18:08:52 by CZ82
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For those of you who would like to comment on what might happen with the 2015 version of the Texas Rangers or any other MLB team for that matter.
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#976. To: tomder55, CZ82, liberator (#975)
Nice walk off last night in the bottom 9th. I watched a bit of the bottom 9th on live look in on the At Bat App. I really question the Astros manager's call to IBB A-Rod. That put the winning run in scoring position for a veteran like McCann.
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
Rangers are up . Looking for a sweep. Here's hopin . On the surface ,the pitching matchups favor the Jays .
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Holland came back strong and he is pitching tonight. His third start since coming back from a shoulder injury. Hard to say but Holland has been more consistent the past few years (when healthy) than he was in 2010-2012. Then again the Jays have been beating up LHP all season. Lewis on Wednesday so that should be a good game. Gallardo RHP on Thursday...roll of the dice if he can make it to 6 full innings. How about those Mets!:) "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
Update from the other night... Here is an excerpt... “My teammate over there, Prince, was the one who said something. I guess I was the ugly one, so he threw me out,” said Beltre, ejected for the third time in his career. “The thing is we’re always wrong, the players. The umpire is always right. We can’t say a lot, because then we get in trouble.” Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/mlb/texas-rangers/foul- territory-blog/article31979445.html#storylink=cpy http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/mlb/texas-rangers/foul-territory- blog/article31979445.html How an umpire can mix up Beltre with Fielder tells me they can't see the pitches right:)
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
Another interesting article thought you might like to see it... http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-rangers/headlines/20150824-rangers- schedule-breakdown-how-does-texas-match-up-the-rest-of-the-way.ece If you take the records as a foretelling of what is to come then I wouldn't... A lot of those losses came when they were giving up 6-7 runs every night and couldn't pitch their way out of a paper bag. I think things are quite a bit different now their pitching seems to be better... Like he said he was the ugly one... :) LOL...
Amazing !!! of course . Mets and Yanks in 1st place going into September . Now there is a rarity .The Mets will be a tough out in the playoffs with their pitching staff and renewed offensive depth. But then again. They have a tougher road to hoe in the National League . The Cubbies against the Pirates in a 1 game playoff will be worth the price of admission. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Hard luck loss last night. Tolly looked smoked. 2 BB is an easy way to blow a save. And an E for Beltre scoring the go ahead run. Sloppy 9th inning work against a good team. Holland gave up what 4 HRs? Ouch that hurts. If your offense scores 5 the pitching should be able to get the team to a win. "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
Heartbreaking night for the Rangers. A VERY rare Tolleson blown save. He might need a few days off. Yankees...Yikes! I put all the AL (and Mets of course in the NL) playoff contenders on my mobile for alerts for score changes. LOL, Daniel grabbed my phone and said "hey dad, the Yankees are getting killed.":) "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
Looks like I spoke too soon they got smoked again... Yeah. Colby looked like an old man pitching. That Detroit game took a lot out of him. He lost his extra day off when they skipped Perez in the rotation this series. Probably would have been a good night for a Chi Chi or Nick Martinez spot start. Results may have been the same or worse, but when you are this close, you can't play every game like it's game 7 of the world series. So they lost two straight but still in the hunt. Still a lot of baseball to play. "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
Hey Unc...It seems as I review our initial impressions on how this team would go, you came closest. You said they had a shot if they could stay around .500. Well that still rings true as all the contenders for the second WC have periods of struggle and success. So I concede you are closest. I OTOH saw this as a team with a first year manager and a walking wounded rotation. I was really looking at 2016-2017 as their year to get back into competitive Sept and eventually Oct baseball. If they can lick their wounds and take one from the Jays and win the series against Balt., I think they hang on another two weeks. But I must say, the Rangers have exceeded 'my' expectations this year. I guess growing up a NY Mets fan as a kid, you keep your expectations kind of low:) LOL and look at how the Mets are doing. So here's to hoping for a Rangers-Mets WS in 2015, 2016 or 2017! Of course beating the Yankees along the way:) "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
It seems like this team feeds too much off of each other. What I mean is if 2 or 3 guys are having a so so or bad night it seems to effect them all and they all end up sucking. Nobody seems like they can ignore the bad and raise their game enough to overcome this.
Well that bottom of the order looked like a 'bottom of the order.' Without Odor in the lineup (lacerated finger), they missed a spark. He has been tearing it up at the bottom 1/3rd of the order. In the first game against the Jays, I believe Odor scored two of the 5 runs and he's been doing that consistently since coming back. I hope his boo boo gets better quick:) I know, it's a painful nail split. That takes time to heal. "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
The Jays are steamrolling everyone -- Texas has got to shrug it off. You just hope they don't get into a funk (like the Yanks.) "Exceeded expectations" gets tossed out the door when you creep to within 3 games of a playoff spot. You now expect the troops to rally and overcome on the way to the playoffs. Otherwise it's considered a choke. Speaking of epic chokes, the Yanks are in serious trouble of even making the playoffs; Texeira is still hurt, Ellsbury is a fragile china-doll and apparently hurt again (playing turribly anyway), A-Rod ran out of gas (and magic) and the rest of the team is slumping badly. I predict they don't make the playoffs, thanks to the lack of foresight by do-nothing GM Cashman. Tulowitski was THE key piece for a Jays team that should be there in the WS to challenge the Cards (who magically do MORE with less somehow.)
If they plan on being more competitive next year then they are going to have to find some good RHed batters to have a chance. And I'm not talking 1-2 more like 3 or 4 cause some of the ones they have now just can't seem to get it done on a nightly basis. LF will still be an issue, 3B now seems to be an issue, SS is an issue and not being able to have 2 or 3 DHs is another issue. The pitching staff won't have an ace/stopper for who knows how long if at all. They may be a playoff team but not WS caliber, if they are I will be shocked. I seen a bit on ESPN or the MLB channel praising him for holding on to their prospects.
Texas can STILL make the playoffs...You can't look at their performance against the Jays and ding them for the remainder of the season. Frankly, we seen this all too often; TWO WCs meeting each other in the WS...getting hot at the right time and winning it all. The parity we'd witnessed all year was shifted when a few teams (KC, Jays, Mets,and Astros) addressed their weaknesses and are now separating themselves from their respective packs. Long term, you're probably right on the Rangers' personnel requisites.
I was talking about 2016.
Are they praising him now that the trade-less impotent Yankees are nose-diving off a cliff like Wile E. Coyote? :-) Yes, even Tom praised Cashman's non-moves to stand pat (instead of strengthening what I perceived as a fragile, old team -- even with a 6 game lead -- man that seems like a lifetime ago.) ALL teams need fresh blood and insurance for a stretch run. Yes, moving a prospect hurts a bit when you're competing for all the marbles. Cashman got nothing and gambled. Came up snake-eyes. BUT...but...he still has "da future." IF he doesn't get fired -- which I've been waiting for for 10 years.
Yes....and dats why I said agreed wiff your long term personnel requisites for da Rangers :-)
Their performance against the Jays is just a microcosm of the whole season. They have a lead then squander it, can't get it back so they lose then the play badly until they run into a sucky pitcher.
Speaking of epic chokes, the Yanks are in serious trouble of even making the playoffs; Texeira is still hurt, Ellsbury is a fragile china-doll and apparently hurt again (playing turribly anyway), A-Rod ran out of gas (and magic) and the rest of the team is slumping badly. I predict they don't make the playoffs, thanks to the lack of foresight by do-nothing GM Cashman. Tulowitski was THE key piece for a Jays team that should be there in the WS to challenge the Cards (who magically do MORE with less somehow.) I agree. If a team is close (and there are several in the AL) then it is a battle of wills and the DL too:) The Cards have had the best or top three farm systems for close to 8 or more years now. They don't spend a lot of money on rentals and somehow develop in house some of the best pitching in the league. They are also not afraid to cut sling load on aging 'super stars' like Albert Puhols and Carlos Beltran. I noticed the Yankees with their older players (they ARE getting a bit younger each year though) after the second week of August they start hitting the DL. Don't worry, they still have great players left to finish this out...The only guy that is going to have a problem is "Bald Vinny" as he has to update his 'call out roster.':) "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
That was a demoralizing loss for the Rangers. Even as a Yankee Fan :-( BUT...it happens. Had they won, it might have propelled them into winning the Jays series. They've just got to dismiss it and move on (easy enough to say, I know.) As to sucky-pitchers, the Yanks have been getting shut down by 5.00 ERA bums. So when you're going bad, it doesn't matter. We've got our #3 (A-Rod) killing us and our red-hot #4 hitter (Tex) questionable for the rest of the season.) At least you're not only intact but reinforced.
and I still praise the move. Yes I would've liked Price ,but not at as a rental. Other than that ,it is not the Yank pitching that was an issue . Where exactly were the Yanks going to add a bat ? The middle infield was the only place that made sense . Catcher is at almost career highs in HR . 1st base ? Tex was playing like an All Star before he banged his leg . 2nd yes ,they could've used an upgrade . Short Stop ? Again Troy Tulowitzki is a rental who is very fragile . 3rd ? Hedley aint the reason they are losing . DH ? ARoid at the time of the trade was playing like an All-Star/Come back player . Outfield ? Gardy was an All-star at the break ;Ellsberry ,and Beltran were not going to be moved because of their contracts . Bird has been a good addition to the bench /1st base . Severino has been pitching like an ace . The other prospects will be up in a couple of days . I wouldn't have traded either Bird or Severino ,and what I heard was that one or both of them would've had to be moved to bring in anyone. Their bats have been pathetically quite ,and A Roid looks old.....but when Bird plays 1st ,Tex or Beltran will get the DH slot . Girardi won't play A Roid if he's not producing down the stretch . They still have 2 head to head series against the Jays ,and a big series against the Mets . Relax ;there is still a month to play .It should be fun. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
Exactly. And it's baseball...Anything can happen...and sometimes does:) "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
I noticed the Yankees with their older players (they ARE getting a bit younger each year though) after the second week of August they start hitting the DL. Yup. It's pretty much NO EXCUSES once you're in it by the last month of the season. You CAN control "will," but the DL :-( Common sense dictates that when your 3-4-5 big guys are 35-40 years old (A-Rod, Tex, Beltran), and your centerfielder is on the DL at least once per year (Ellsbury), you go out an get another solid bat. They do have a couple of guys they've refused to help inject much needed energy (2B Refsynder up for a week, and OF Judge.) Don't worry, they still have great players left to finish this out...The only guy that is going to have a problem is "Bald Vinny" as he has to update his 'call out roster.':) LOL @Bald Vinny...Aye...Ooooh...Eeeee! Naaah -- their "great players" are spent. They'll finish out the season out in a disgraceful plunge as an also-ran. Their IFs can't hit; Their 3B, Chase Headley hasn't hit a line drive in 3 weeks (HAD to have been on the Juice when he hit 31 HRs during his fluke 2011.) Nearly all his hits are seeing eye grounders and bloops (you seeing what I'm seeing, Tom?). He's making E-5s like clock work. @$12 mil per year? Waaaay overpaid. The Cards have had the best or top three farm systems for close to 8 or more years now. They don't spend a lot of money on rentals and somehow develop in house some of the best pitching in the league. They are also not afraid to cut sling load on aging 'super stars' like Albert Puhols and Carlos Beltran. The Cards' org is amazing, isn't it? Year after year they compete like the Yanks -- without spending a gazillion dollars. Yep, buh-bye Pujols and Beltran...WHY? Because they know they have home grown, poised talent OR make savvy trades. Plus they knew Pujols was degrading. Their pitching defies reason. Fundamentally they are solid as can be.
Ok, rent Price. Otherwise, who's their Playoff Stopper? Nobody. Yankee starting pitching *was* a big problem *while* they were hitting. Now the BP is showing signs of burn out while the SP is competent. Where were the Bombers going to add a bat? EVERYWHERE. Yes, middle IF made sense; They've gotten NOTHING from then for the entire month of August. They have no professional hitting in their depth chart -- not to mention their starting lineup since August. Headley at 3rd can't hit or field; He IS one the reason they're losing. Totally Un-clutch. Didi can't hit LHers; Drew is brutal (.190). Ryan? Their IF can't hit. Tex was due to get hurt, one year after recouping (with hardly any rest.) A-Rod...ran out of gas. Bird, not ready for Prime Time. Severino: The ONE rook living up to expectations. I'd bring up and play Refsynder and Judge. Gardy needs rest, he's looks...fried since the AS break. Ellsbury is a shadow of his former self. Can't complain at Catcher. Yes, Tex was playing lights out, but...you NEED depth at first for what just what happened. Tulo was key, THE piece. Yes, a bit injury prone, but SS is a rigorous position. I'd have signed him long term. You see the instant different he made in Toronto. Beltran has the range of a snail on Valium. The Yanks are in BIG trouble. Playing the two hottest teams in baseball -- the Jays AND Mets? If that's 10 games, they'll win 2. Relax ;there is still a month to play .It should be fun. You're a masochist, Tommy :-)
I seen a stat the other night showing the Yankees have used 30 pitchers this year, and I thought the Rangers used a Schitt load!!
And just got smoked by the Astro's. Yup, crushed. Not even competitive. The one win they got was a fluky 1-0 game that I believe took 10 innings. They scored 4 runs in 3 games. The Rangers smoked them, and somehow the Yanks are supposed to compete against the Mets flame-throwers and Jays 10-run per game offense?? Stick a fork in them, pending some miraculous resurgence where they magically return to June-July form while hoping the Mets/Jays suddenly and simultaneous combust. The Yanks now play the Braves -- EVERYONE's favorite punching bag. If the Yanks can't beat the Braves, they're in big trouble.
Yeah, both teams keep shuttling in arms. Usually not a good sign. At least you got Holland back.
Rangers pitching shut out baseball through 6 innings. Now top 7th and Deikman in. The Jays are disciplined hitters. D man is wrapped up in a ten pitch at bat right now still going. Edit: walked him...two on now one out. Rangers toast with Tulo coming up next. Edit #2: Tulo up with bases jammed and one out. Yikes LOL Edit #3: I'm such a baseball pessimist. Dyson came in and got Tulo to GDP. BUT...The Rangers have just spent their magazine on decent relievers besides the closer who blew the game on Tuesday:) "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
Remember this guy?? http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/32868/odubel-herrera The Rangers let him go to the Phillies as a Rule 5 he plays CF... That's the key to having a successful organization if you draft properly, know when to hold them and know when to fold them... Way too many organizations trade their "yunguns" for immediate gratification which most of the time doesn't play out. The Rangers have made 3 trades that have cleaned out their farm system and have nothing to show for 2 of them and the 3rd is yet to be determined (Hamels), the guy isn't even an ace... tsk, tsk, tsk... 4-6 Extra strength Tylenols, 3-4 Amino acids and a few beers before the game and he will be right as rain, no problemo... If I can do that and play CF with a bum hammy he can play with a boo boo on his throwing hand!! :) That's my point. The Yanks after 2001 put band aids on their championship team for a decade . They got into the playoffs true ,and even managed to win one in the new stadium . They cashed in all their chips giving long term deals to CC and A Roid ,and making other deals that didn't pan out . They are still paying for that .But in the time since the Series win they restocked ,and have a future on the farm. They could build a foundation for multiple winning teams with them if they show patients. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
How long has Bald Vinny been doing the call outs? Caught it on ESPN a few years ago. "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
Nice BA. Could use that at LF right now:) Nice diving catch though by Veneble today. Saved Gallys bacon. DD had three BBs today and two hits (or the other way around). One of the base hits turned into a little league HR driving in 3. Tolly got in a bit of hot water again but got the save. "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8
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#977. To: redleghunter, CZ82, liberator (#976)
#978. To: tomder55 (#977)
On the surface ,the pitching matchups favor the Jays .
#979. To: redleghunter, tomder55, Liberator (#968)
Banny and Beltre get tossed out of the game.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#980. To: CZ82 (#979)
#981. To: redleghunter (#978)
On the surface ,the pitching matchups favor the Jays .
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#982. To: redleghunter (#980)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#983. To: redleghunter (#978)
How about those Mets!:)
#984. To: CZ82 (#981)
#985. To: tomder55, liberator, CZ82 (#983)
#986. To: redleghunter (#985)
A lot of those losses came when they were giving up 6-7 runs every night and couldn't pitch their way out of a paper bag. I think things are quite a bit different now their pitching seems to be better...
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#987. To: CZ82 (#986)
Looks like I spoke too soon they got smoked again...
#988. To: CZ82, liberator, tomder55 (#986)
#989. To: redleghunter (#987)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#990. To: CZ82 (#989)
It seems like this team feeds too much off of each other. What I mean is if 2 or 3 guys are having a so so or bad night it seems to effect them all and they all end up sucking. Nobody seems like they can ignore the bad and raise their game enough to overcome this.
#991. To: redleghunter, CZ82, tomder55 (#988)
If they can lick their wounds and take one from the Jays and win the series against Balt., I think they hang on another two weeks. But I must say, the Rangers have exceeded 'my' expectations this year.
#992. To: redleghunter (#988)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#993. To: Liberator (#991)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#994. To: CZ82, redleghunter, tomder55 (#992)
They may be a playoff team but not WS caliber, if they are I will be shocked.
#995. To: Liberator (#994)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#996. To: CZ82, tomder55, redleghunter (#993)
I seen a bit on ESPN or the MLB channel praising him for holding on to their prospects.
#997. To: CZ82 (#995)
I was talking about 2016.
#998. To: Liberator (#994)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#999. To: Liberator, CZ82, tomder55 (#991)
"Exceeded expectations" gets tossed out the door when you creep to within 3 games of a playoff spot. You now expect the troops to rally and overcome on the way to the playoffs. Otherwise it's considered a choke.
#1000. To: CZ82 (#998)
Their performance against the Jays is just a microcosm of the whole season. They have a lead then squander it, can't get it back so they lose then the play badly until they run into a sucky pitcher.
#1001. To: Liberator, CZ82, redleghunter (#996)
#1002. To: Liberator (#1000)
#1003. To: tomder55 (#1001)
Relax ;there is still a month to play .It should be fun.
#1004. To: redleghunter, CZ82, tomder55 (#999)
If a team is close (and there are several in the AL) then it is a battle of wills and the DL too:)...
#1005. To: tomder55, CZ82, redleghunter (#1001)
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and I still praise the move. Yes I would've liked Price ,but not at as a rental. Other than that ,it is not the Yank pitching that was an issue . Where exactly were the Yanks going to add a bat ? The middle infield was the only place that made sense .
#1006. To: Liberator (#1005)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#1007. To: Liberator (#1005)
Playing the two hottest teams in baseball -- the Jays AND Mets? If that's 10 games, they'll win 2.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#1008. To: CZ82 (#1007)
And just got smoked by the Astro's.
#1009. To: CZ82 (#1006)
I seen a stat the other night showing the Yankees have used 30 pitchers this year, and I thought the Rangers used a Schitt load!!
#1010. To: CZ82, liberator, tomder55 (#1007)
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#1011. To: redleghunter (#1010)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#1012. To: Liberator (#1004)
The Cards have had the best or top three farm systems for close to 8 or more years now. They don't spend a lot of money on rentals and somehow develop in house some of the best pitching in the league. They are also not afraid to cut sling load on aging 'super stars' like Albert Pujols and Carlos Beltran.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#1013. To: redleghunter, Liberator (#990)
I hope his boo boo gets better quick:) I know, it's a painful nail split. That takes time to heal.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#1014. To: CZ82, Liberator, Redleghunter (#1012)
That's the key to having a successful organization if you draft properly, know when to hold them and know when to fold them... Way too many organizations trade their "yunguns" for immediate gratification which most of the time doesn't play out.
#1015. To: Liberator (#1004)
#1016. To: CZ82 (#1011)
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