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Published: Oct 14, 2014
Author: CZ82
Post Date: 2014-10-14 18:08:52 by CZ82
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For those of you who would like to comment on what might happen with the 2015 version of the Texas Rangers or any other MLB team for that matter.


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#893. To: CZ82, tomder55 (#889)

Looks like they took it back last night by beating the Jays, now how long can they hold on.

I guess the next question is have the Jays shot their wad and are now coming back to earth??

Keep in mind I have still not watched more than an inning of any game since the Jays beat the Yanks at the Stadium in Game 2 a week and a half(?) ago. Can't take the agita (Tom, have you been watching every game?)

Wow. I was shocked when I saw the 4-3 score and win by the Yanks in Yahoo News. It took an unlikely pinch-hit 3-run jack by Beltran IN Toronto in the 8th inning (of a game that David Price was removed) to win it. I also hoid/read where closer Andrew Miller (who's already blown a save and looked bad since his return off the DL) had to overcome an almost blown save and 12-pitch AB from Tulowitski to close it down.

WAS this win a fluke? And yeah -- does this mean the 11-game winning streak and freaky mojo of the Jays is kaput?...AND the Yanks turn things around? So...yes, they've re-taken first place. I a really bad loss FOR Toronto. Yanks are also up by 2 games in the loss column.

The Jays filled in every hole they had. They're loaded. In spades....they aren't going away IMO. The Bombers may win a WC.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-15   12:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#894. To: CZ82, redleghunter, tomder55 (#890)

They are going to have to play .650-.700 ball down the stretch to have a legitimate shot at the playoffs.

As of this moment they are 5.5 games back of a wild card and only 5 games back of the Astros, their better shot might be in the division. They have 7 left against both the Astros and the Angels...

14 game against both those teams? Yup. The division is still up for grabs. With Texas only 5 games out and the Angels and Astros beatable. Fugetabout the WC.

.650 ball at this point in time...would help.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-15   12:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#895. To: Liberator, CZ82, Redleghunter (#893)

Tom, have you been watching every game?

I watch until I fall asleep on the couch (normally by the 3rd inning ;that's what happens when one is up 2 hrs. before sunrise everyday) .

Frankly I have not been in a panic (ok maybe a little when Pineda went on DL) . That's because they have had decent starts ;even from CC ;and the bullpen has done the job . The hitting went on hiatus at an inopportune time . But it's back . I wouldn't worry about Miller .Even Mariano had spells of a couple games where he stunk up the joint. If his struggles become a pattern then there is always Betances to close. If the Jays continue to win at the rate they did in their 15 game hot streak then they deserve to win the division. But they won't .

Now if you want to see me panic ,talk about the Giants losing 4 DBs in one exhibition game !

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-08-15   13:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#896. To: tomder55, CZ82, redleghunter (#891)

let's not get carried away.

But...I do that with *everything," Tommy. And you hadn't you noticed? ;-)

They had one week where they couldn't score. It happened at the same time the Jays got hot .....that's baseball for ya.

Yes, but that was an EPIC slump -- what, 31 innings worth?? Coinciding with the Jays torrid streak - buoyed by TREMENDOUS reinforcements like Tulo, Price, etal.) Meanwhile the Yankees needed reinforcements...but because they were amidst of masquerading as the '61 Yankees, Casman stood pat. He actually LOST a couple of guys. Considering Tex and A-Rod are older, their wilting in the dawg days without proper rest is not a surprise. Cashman it seems was playing NOT to lose...MLB's version of the prevent-D. And we all know about that philosophy.

Price did yesterday what he typically does against the Yanks ;mediocre to terrible at best.

Well, it was ok. He did just shut them down last outing; In this one he'd been dinged with hits but surrendered only a single run (before the reliever came in and coughed up the 3-run dinger.)

They still play 9 head to head games before the end of the season including a 4 game series in the Bronx.

Sure -- there are plenty of games and time to make up against the Jays. But as I mentioned, THIS Jays team is loaded. And running on all cylinders. The Yanks are stumbling and tired. We've still yet to see who each "real" respective club is. If I'm a Toronto fan, I like my chances.

As for the fresh blood ,there are 4 top prospects that would be starting on many MLB teams . Luis Severino looks good in 2 starts . They brought up Greg Bird to give TEX and A-Roid some days off. He didn't get a hit in his one game in Cleveland but looks like he's got a nice Yankee Stadium swing. They will also bring up Aaron Judge real soon to give some of the outfielders a break.

The Jays go and get a Tulo, and the Yanks have to rely on Bird, a guy no one had heard of. THAT is the difference-maker. Judge is apparently reason for high hopes. BUT until we see it...

Ok -- Severino had been impressive. The Yanks have a few other good prospects...but that's all they are for now and won't help should the Bombers find themselves desperate to make the playoffs.

Yesterday Beltran came off the bench and hit a 3 run hr to win the game. So they will have depth when it counts. Michael Paneda is real close to returning to the rotation also. Maybe as soon as next week. Rob Refsnyder will be up in Sept to give the middle infielders a break. The Yank farm system is as strong as it's been since the early 1990s . That has been Cashman's biggest contribution to the franchise.

Beltran's HR may have been THE biggest hit of the year. Pineda...Hmmm....just don't know. The guy is fragile, ain't he? I liked Refsnyder....they should have kept him on the Big Club.

We're gonna have a disagreement with just what Cashman has brought to the table. IMO he cheaped-out during the last two years when a couple of decent trades could have won the Yanks another 5 games in the standings -- enough to make the playoffs. And this year he missed the boat, grabbing a Mariner IF scrub (Ackley) who went on the DL immediately.

By the time all those young guys are seasoned, Tex is gone, A-Rod is gone, and once again they'll have the same impotent offense they'd had in 2013-14. Patience: NOT a trait of NY Yankee Fans. You're an exception, Tom :-) Are you from the NY-NJ-CT area?

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-15   13:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#897. To: tomder55 (#895)

I watch until I fall asleep on the couch (normally by the 3rd inning ;that's what happens when one is up 2 hrs. before sunrise everyday) .

Whoa. What a schedule. But at least you haven't had to be tortured by blown 16 inning losses lately ;-)

Frankly I have not been in a panic (ok maybe a little when Pineda went on DL) . That's because they have had decent starts ;even from CC ;and the bullpen has done the job . The hitting went on hiatus at an inopportune time . But it's back .

I was panicked because Giraradi mis-managed TWO games in a row...with the torrid Jays coming into town. I knew that the players lost mojo from that AND were showing signs of team fatigue. Very frustrating to finally get decent pitching (especially from CC), but not back it up. Dunno if the bats are back; I hope you're right. I need more time to assess.

I wouldn't worry about Miller .Even Mariano had spells of a couple games where he stunk up the joint. If his struggles become a pattern then there is always Betances to close. If the Jays continue to win at the rate they did in their 15 game hot streak then they deserve to win the division. But they won't .

Great points about Mo slumping once per year. But he had a track record and was hardly ever hurt. Miller's still battling back to form. I'm good with Betances. Agree -- if the Jays are THIS good, gotta tip your hat to them. And hope they slump in the post-season while the Yanks get hot (for a change.)

Aaah - a NY Jint Fan too? Good :-) If you're into hockey, NY Ranger Fan as well? N, did NOT know the Jints lost 4 DBs in a single exhibition game. (how serious is it?)

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-15   13:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#898. To: Liberator, CZ82, redleghunter (#896)

The Jays go and get a Tulo, and the Yanks have to rely on Bird, a guy no one had heard of. THAT is the difference-maker. Judge is apparently reason for high hopes. BUT until we see it...

Ok -- Severino had been impressive. The Yanks have a few other good prospects...but that's all they are for now and won't help should the Bombers find themselves desperate to make the playoffs.

Jeter ,Posada ,Mariano were all once prospects ....so were Hughes, Jaba ,and Montero . Guess you never know for sure . The point is that the Yanks actually have prospects after years of trading them away for 'rent a players' .The old model won't work . Can't blame Cashman for that . The Boss isn't running the show anymore and his sons have a budget . Beltran just hit a 1st inning HR btw .Yanks up 1-0 .

Patience: NOT a trait of NY Yankee Fans. You're an exception, Tom :-) Are you from the NY-NJ-CT area?

Raised on Long Island . I live in the Hudson Valley now . Don't kid yourself about patience. As Yanks fans we saw them go from the early 80s until the mid 90s without any championships . Now I admit ;that aint Mets ,Jets patience but.............Gene Michaels patiently built the foundation for the championship years in that time . He did it by stocking the minors with talent .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-08-15   13:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#899. To: Liberator (#897)

Aaah - a NY Jint Fan too? Good :-) If you're into hockey, NY Ranger Fan as well? N, did NOT know the Jints lost 4 DBs in a single exhibition game. (how serious is it?)

pretty bad . 5th round pick Mykkele Thompson is possibly out for the year with an Achilles tear . Landon Collins had a knee injury . The Jints traded up for him in the 2nd round. He says he'll be ok. 2 more cornerbacks were dinged . One of them was subbing for Prince Amukamara who was already inactive with an injury .

I like the Rangers ,but when I was a big hockey fan I was on Long Island ,and it was in the middle of the great Islanders run .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-08-15   14:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#900. To: redleghunter (#892)

Actually as of last night they are now 2.5 back of the second WC after beating the Rays last night.

You're right I read the chart wrong I had the Jays as the 2nd WC instead of 1st, duuuhhhh...

I would still rather they took the division instead of having to rely on their play for 1 game to get in. It looks as if they are positioning Hamels for the "playin" game if he pitches on Monday as has been speculated...

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-15   15:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#901. To: Liberator, CZ82, tomder55 (#894)

They are going to have to play .650-.700 ball down the stretch to have a legitimate shot at the playoffs. As of this moment they are 5.5 games back of a wild card and only 5 games back of the Astros, their better shot might be in the division. They have 7 left against both the Astros and the Angels...

14 game against both those teams? Yup. The division is still up for grabs. With Texas only 5 games out and the Angels and Astros beatable. Fugetabout the WC.

.650 ball at this point in time...would help.

After tonight the Rangers are 1.5 games out of lower WC.

I looked at the various 2nd WCs since inception a few years ago. Only one team won less than 88 games. Difference this year is one team in the AL is not running away with the top WC.

Then again a good friend and baseball fan told me to stop scoreboard watching until around September 10th. I think he is right. The first WC will go to the team who has been consistent most of the season and holds their own with the infusion of younger players in September when rosters expand. Second WC will go to whoever is competitive now and goes on a mid September hot streak.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-16   0:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#902. To: Liberator (#894)

.650 ball at this point in time...would help.

The Rangers had a stretch close to that earlier in the season when the starting pitching was doing what it is supposed to do "quality starts", but am not too sure they have that in them again...

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-16   15:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#903. To: redleghunter (#901)

I looked at the various 2nd WCs since inception a few years ago. Only one team won less than 88 games. Difference this year is one team in the AL is not running away with the top WC.

I don't think the 88 wins will hold up this year there are way too many teams in the American league vying for the spot. On the other hand the National league has been all but decided.

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-16   15:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#904. To: CZ82, Liberator, Redleghunter (#903)

I don't think the 88 wins will hold up this year

that's why I'm counting on the Rangers to get hot . They especially need to be hot starting next Tuesday against the Jays :> Yanks wasted another great effort by Severino . But can't complain about 2 of 3 . Yanks go back to NY in 1st ;and 10 teams they SHOULD feast on except perhaps Houston. Jays go to Philly for 2 and then play 3 against the Angels and 3 against the Rangers .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-08-16   16:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#905. To: CZ82 (#903)

Saw an article on MLB that Chirinos is not ready to come back and Corporan is still having thumb issues.

Looks like we have Wilson and Gimenez for a bit longer now.

Both are hitting well, however I wonder how much they know the rotation and pen.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-16   17:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#906. To: CZ82, tomder55, liberator (#902)

Interesting article here on the Rangers keeping in the hunt:

Gosselin: If resilient Rangers are serious about playoffs, they must make a stand

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-17   13:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#907. To: tomder55, CZ82, redleghunter (#898)

Jeter ,Posada ,Mariano were all once prospects ....so were Hughes, Jaba ,and Montero . Guess you never know for sure . The point is that the Yanks actually have prospects after years of trading them away for 'rent a players' .The old model won't work . Can't blame Cashman for that . The Boss isn't running the show anymore and his sons have a budget .

No, all "prospects" are a roll of the dice vs the known quantity. Let's face it -- the Yankees hit the Trifecta with Jeter, Mariano, and Pettitte -- and of the three, only Jeter was a "can't-miss." Mariano was a starter in '95 and got bombed. Pettitte came out of the gate at 12-9.

I realize the old-model can't work the way it had with the Boss, but the Steinbrenner Family IS still quite wealthy, and the Yanks still are not like any other club -- we need to keep on winning. Cashman has to find the right balance of talent. That means he needed to be creative. They have lacked offensive spark and slumped a few times -- even before they went on their 90 runs in 10 games binge.

The Yanks took 2 of 3 from the Jays, but with ANY normal offensive production, could have swept. 1 run against another guy with a 5+ ERA?? They are going no where if this epic slump continues.

Raised on Long Island . I live in the Hudson Valley now . Don't kid yourself about patience. As Yanks fans we saw them go from the early 80s until the mid 90s without any championships . Now I admit ;that aint Mets ,Jets patience but.............Gene Michaels patiently built the foundation for the championship years in that time . He did it by stocking the minors with talent .

Hudson Valley -- Really nice in them thar parts. LI boy? Lotta Mets/Jets fans out there, eh? Yeah -- the drought from '82-'95 killed us Yankee Fans. Especially during the Donnie Baseball years. I understand a certain degree of patience, but when you have a 6 game lead (and obvious batting needs), ya gotta go out an make a deal. Stick Michael was a heckuva GM and eye for talent. Too bad Showalter was let go after '95. THAT loss to the Mariners was a back-breaker.

Got a great read to recommend, Tom: 'The Last Boy -- The End of America's Childhood' (Mickey Mantle.) Unc, Red, ANY baseball guy would really like this book.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-17   15:33:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#908. To: tomder55 (#899)

pretty bad . 5th round pick Mykkele Thompson is possibly out for the year with an Achilles tear . Landon Collins had a knee injury . The Jints traded up for him in the 2nd round. He says he'll be ok. 2 more cornerbacks were dinged . One of them was subbing for Prince Amukamara who was already inactive with an injury .

Look like two are gone for the year. And two coming back eventually. ITMT they picked up somebody competent (forget now.)

I like the Rangers ,but when I was a big hockey fan I was on Long Island ,and it was in the middle of the great Islanders run .

Out on the Island still for that time? That was a confusing time for me as a Rangers Fan; I began watching the Islanders on Channel 9....was watched for their '75 underdog run as they beat the hated Flyers and began pulling for the Gilles-Trottier-Bossy Isles. Total confusion when they played the Rangers. After that dynasty I returned as a hard-core Rangers' Fan.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-17   15:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#909. To: Liberator, tomder55, CZ82 (#907)

The Yanks took 2 of 3 from the Jays, but with ANY normal offensive production, could have swept. 1 run against another guy with a 5+ ERA?? They are going no where if this epic slump continues.

Maybe the Yankees need to bring back their old 'batting coach' from the mid-90s:

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-17   15:41:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#910. To: redleghunter, CZ82, tomder55 (#901)

After tonight the Rangers are 1.5 games out of lower WC.

I looked at the various 2nd WCs since inception a few years ago. Only one team won less than 88 games. Difference this year is one team in the AL is not running away with the top WC.

And now the Rangers won yet again.

Yeah, odd year of absolute parity. Is it possible 85-86 games wins...a division AND WC??

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-17   15:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#911. To: CZ82 (#902)

The Rangers had a stretch close to that earlier in the season when the starting pitching was doing what it is supposed to do "quality starts", but am not too sure they have that in them again...

Man, from what I've seen of the entire AL, ANY of these teams are capable of getting red hot OR slumping into oblivion. The Rangers' SP is no worse than any of the contenders -- only that lack a real Stopper it appears.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-17   15:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#912. To: Liberator, CZ82, tomder55 (#910)

Yeah, odd year of absolute parity. Is it possible 85-86 games wins...a division AND WC??

Don't think the Royals will tank that bad but they have trouble beating good teams this year. The Rangers are the bizarro opposite. They lose to sub-500 teams and beat above 500 teams. Better record on the road (best AL road record) than at home.

Hard to tell if the Rangers tank. It does not take much right now. In the position of the Twins, Rays, Angels, Orioles and Rangers if any of those teams go on a 5-7 game losing streak it may be tough to bounce back in Sept.

I foresee Bannister using 7-10 pitchers in a game come Sept call ups:)

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-17   15:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#913. To: Liberator (#908)

Out on the Island still for that time? That was a confusing time for me as a Rangers Fan; I began watching the Islanders on Channel 9....was watched for their '75 underdog run as they beat the hated Flyers and began pulling for the Gilles-Trottier-Bossy Isles. Total confusion when they played the Rangers. After that dynasty I returned as a hard-core Rangers' Fan.

it was a great time to be on the Island .The team was very community oriented . It was easy to route for Trottier and Bossy but may favorites were the grinders like Bobby Nystrom and the Sutter Brothers . Same thing with the D . Everyone liked Potvin . But my favorite was Ken Morrow . I thought it was cool that he went from an Olympic Gold medal team right to a Stanley Cup team . Not a bad way to start a career . A Gold medal and 4 Stanley Cups .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-08-17   17:21:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#914. To: Liberator, CZ82, tomder55 (#910)

Rangers got to Rodney in the bottom ninth tonight. Won 4-3 on a Beltre walk off walk:)

Two bunt singles (one was a sac bunt beat out by DD). They Rodney plunked Choo in the back. Fielder struck out then the walk by Beltre.

Stros lose putting Rangers 3 games out.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-18   0:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#915. To: Liberator, CZ82, tomder55 (#911)

only that lack a real Stopper it appears.

The closer Tolleson is doing a fine job. 23 of 24 saves since being bumped up. Plus the two late inning relievers they picked up from the trade deadline are doing well. Dyson has a nasty sinking fast ball. Time will tell. Lots of baseball left to play.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-18   0:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#916. To: tomder55 (#891)

Both the Jays and Yanks need to keep their eyes on the Orioles . They have not been buried and they have not had one of those hot streaks yet.

They are playing better as of late and have won 4 in a row to get them 5 games over .500.

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-18   6:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#917. To: Liberator, redleghunter, tomder55 (#911)

The Rangers' SP is no worse than any of the contenders -- only that lack a real Stopper it appears.

He is on the DL after TJ surgery... We have 2 #2s one is on the DL supposedly gonna be back on Wednesday and the other is pitching like a #3 or 4, in fact he could very well have lost last night if it weren't for the defense...

Choo saved his bacon with this little gem last night that if not made would have surrendered the lead and maybe the game...

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-18   6:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#918. To: redleghunter (#912)

The Rangers are the bizarro opposite. They lose to sub-500 teams and beat above 500 teams. Better record on the road (best AL road record) than at home.

Yea they tried losing last night to a sub .500 team, AGAIN!!!

Choo's throw and Rodney's lack of pitching are the only reasons they won last night...

Looks like my bad mouthing of Adrian has finally gotten to him he's been playing better for a couple of weeks now... "EVIS" well he's still playing his way into moving to a new zipcode, hope that can be arranged this off season... Ever since he got that big contract he's been regressing in all areas of his play...

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-18   6:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#919. To: tomder55 (#904)

Looks like Mitchell had a rough night last night... He's out of the hospital so shouldn't be too bad, just wonder how he will react the next time he goes to pitch??

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-18   7:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#920. To: redleghunter, CZ82, tomder55 (#912)

Don't think the Royals will tank that bad but they have trouble beating good teams this year. The Rangers are the bizarro opposite. They lose to sub-500 teams and beat above 500 teams. Better record on the road (best AL road record) than at home.

Good points. (I'd rather have a team demonstrate an ability to beat better teams while having a worse record.) The Rangers -- road warriors too? It all bodes well for them IF they can cop a WC spot.

Hard to tell if the Rangers tank. It does not take much right now. In the position of the Twins, Rays, Angels, Orioles and Rangers if any of those teams go on a 5-7 game losing streak it may be tough to bounce back in Sept.

The Rangers are a Jekyll and Hyde team. Sorta like the Yanks, sorta like many teams it seems. Running either Hot and Cold.

The only teams I'd bet the house on for making the playoffs is the Jays and KC (only because the AL Central stinks.

I foresee Bannister using 7-10 pitchers in a game come Sept call ups:)

Girardi will be using 8-11 ;-)

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-18   11:46:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#921. To: tomder55 (#913)

t was a great time to be on the Island .The team was very community oriented . It was easy to route for Trottier and Bossy but may favorites were the grinders like Bobby Nystrom and the Sutter Brothers . Same thing with the D .

Must have been a great time out there back then.

I mentioned the Trottier-Bossy-Gilles line because they were the iconic line of those championship teams, but yeah, other guys were memorable -- Nystrom, Tonelli (both clutch), Bourne, Goering....the Sutters were really young but integral members of the team. That D never got much credit.

Everyone liked Potvin .

Especially Rangers fans. Oh wait ;-) GREAT player.

But my favorite was Ken Morrow . I thought it was cool that he went from an Olympic Gold medal team right to a Stanley Cup team . Not a bad way to start a career . A Gold medal and 4 Stanley Cups .

Quite a start for Morrow, eh? Gold Medal, then the Cup. A defenseman's defenseman.

I can still see a bearded Clark Gilles circling around trouble-makers like a lion, keeping the peace. Most intimidating force I can recall during those days. Remember the brawls with Terry O'Reilly?

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-18   11:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#922. To: redleghunter, CZ82, tomder55 (#914)

Rangers got to Rodney in the bottom ninth tonight. Won 4-3 on a Beltre walk off walk:)

Two bunt singles (one was a sac bunt beat out by DD). They Rodney plunked Choo in the back. Fielder struck out then the walk by Beltre.

Cheap rally. BUT...all that matters is that W. The Tigers -- how the mighty have fallen. Rodney STINKS.

Stros lose putting Rangers 3 games out.

Striking distance. Stros are beginning to choke. Do the Angels have enough?

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-18   11:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#923. To: redleghunter, CZ82, tomder55 (#915)

The closer Tolleson is doing a fine job. 23 of 24 saves since being bumped up.

I was referring to a starting pitcher as a "stopper." Never heard of Tolleson, but closing down 23/24 saves is encouraging for you guys.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-18   12:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#924. To: CZ82, tomder55 (#916)

They are playing better as of late and have won 4 in a row to get them 5 games over .500.

That may be, but I'm not worried about the O's. They don't appear to have enough this year.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-18   12:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#925. To: CZ82, redleghunter, tomder55 (#917)

He [the #1 Stopper] is on the DL after TJ surgery...

We have 2 #2s one is on the DL supposedly gonna be back on Wednesday and the other is pitching like a #3 or 4, in fact he could very well have lost last night if it weren't for the defense...

Potential is there....injuries (or lack thereof) is a crucial factor for everyone obviously at this time of year. Ya gotta hope that when your hurlers return they're in top form.

Choo saved his bacon with this little gem last night that if not made would have surrendered the lead and maybe the game...

Nice gun down!

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-18   12:06:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#926. To: Liberator (#924)

Yeah they let Cruz get away just like the Rangers did 2 years ago, i could still kick JDs ass for that.

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-18   13:25:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#927. To: Liberator (#925)

Holland was on a mission when he came back from the knee injury last year, hopefully he will do the same thing this year.

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-18   13:28:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#928. To: Liberator (#921)

I can still see a bearded Clark Gilles circling around trouble-makers like a lion, keeping the peace. Most intimidating force I can recall during those days. Remember the brawls with Terry O'Reilly?

Sure do also with Dave Schultz .. and with Gilles on the line no one was going to take cheap shots at 2 time Lady Byng winner Mike Bossy .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-08-18   13:29:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#929. To: Liberator (#922)

Astros are young and play that way, lots of strikeouts and home runs.

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-18   13:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#930. To: CZ82 (#919)

Looks like Mitchell had a rough night last night... He's out of the hospital so shouldn't be too bad, just wonder how he will react the next time he goes to pitch??

he has nasal fracture. Don't know if he will be back before Sept call ups . Expect Paneda back soon. I think his whole dl stint was an innings limiting stunt frankly. But when he comes back the Yanks will almost definitely go into a full 6 man rotation .After Sept 1 I expect there will be 35 Yanks in uniform ...mostly in the bullpen . We'll be lucky if Yanks games last less than 4 hrs. with all the pitching changes.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-08-18   13:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#931. To: CZ82 (#917)

Choo saved his bacon with this little gem last night that if not made would have surrendered the lead and maybe the game...

shades of Roberto Clemente

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UUy65ZpSP0

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-08-18   13:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#932. To: CZ82 (#918)

"EVIS" well he's still playing his way into moving to a new zipcode, hope that can be arranged this off season... Ever since he got that big contract he's been regressing in all areas of his play...

Defense has been much better. His hitting has moved up a bit since the AS break.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-18   15:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#933. To: Liberator, CZ82, tomder55 (#922)

Striking distance. Stros are beginning to choke. Do the Angels have enough?

If you can get passed Trout and Puhols with no runners on, you beat the Angels.

Seems teams know this:) Their pitching is like everyone else's in their current position...shaky:)

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-18   15:22:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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