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Title: 2015 Texas Rangers
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Published: Oct 14, 2014
Author: CZ82
Post Date: 2014-10-14 18:08:52 by CZ82
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Views: 375211
Comments: 1454

For those of you who would like to comment on what might happen with the 2015 version of the Texas Rangers or any other MLB team for that matter.


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#621. To: CZ82 (#619)

Choo sitting again tonight. Maybe DL bound given 3 days on the Canadian turf would be bad for a bad back:

Rangers lineup June 24th

Choice called up to add to the bench. Claudio sent back down.

Choice call up

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-24   16:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#622. To: redleghunter (#620)

Quick thoughts: Something isn’t right with Rangers’ Mitch Moreland

Some discussion on if Mitch is hurt (poss ankle). Hey no problem...Joey plays 1B too!

I am assuming that's the reason why he hasn't played any OF this year is because they didn't think his "repaired" ankle would stand the punishment. Now I wonder if it's the repaired ankle bothering him and he needs a break or if it's the other??

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-24   18:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#623. To: redleghunter (#620)

You think Joey Gallo is heading to AAA after Hamilton is activated?

JD may have to think again if that was the plan.

Like I said before if Joey can play 3B, 1B and OF they just might keep him and start a rest/play rotation with all the "oldsters" to help keep them fresher.

Another factor is he has a bat that can change the outcome of a game in one swing. I think the only way he'll go back to AAA is if everybody gets healthy and stays healthy, or if he's showing he just doesn't get it. Right now he's hitting .133, .188 OBP and .333 SLG% against LHers and .297, .409 OBP and .595 SLG% against RHers.

And the last factor is this is the last guaranteed contract year for Beltre, next year is optional. His performance now will help them make a big decision before 31 July or during the offseason as what to do about him. I would hate to see him go but that just may end up happening, he is a good influence on the younger players in the dugout.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-24   18:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#624. To: redleghunter (#621)

Choice called up to add to the bench. Claudio sent back down.

Choice call up

They really didn't much of a choice as to bring him up nobody else on the 40 man roster. But I do think they will take him off the 40 man roster after the season is over with and put one of the younger guys on it.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-24   18:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#625. To: redleghunter (#621)

Choo sitting again tonight. Maybe DL bound given 3 days on the Canadian turf would be bad for a bad back:

Remember the old saying "If you don't use it you'll lose it"?? Well that may just apply here. I know if I stop running (1.5 miles 3-4 times a week) my back gets weak and starts to hurt.

Wonder how much he runs during the season/offseason??

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-24   18:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#626. To: redleghunter (#621)

Bad game, losing to a bad team enough said.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-25   7:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#627. To: CZ82 (#626)

Bad game, losing to a bad team enough said.

Yep. Turned it off to watch the CWS. Good game.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-25   9:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#628. To: CZ82 (#626)

Colby had two bad innings today (game still going on losing 6-3). In the 5th, after having a 2-0 lead, he walked three batters. "Relief" pitching hard pressed too. The next inning was even worse but game only 3-3 at the time. Then in the 7th Kela came in AGAIN and got two quick outs then gave up two singles. Then Freeman comes in and gives up an infield hit and then walks in a run and then gives up a 2 run double. 6-3 A's.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-25   16:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#629. To: redleghunter (#627)

Yep. Turned it off to watch the CWS. Good game.

Isn't that about over only 1 or 2 games left??

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-26   7:03:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#630. To: redleghunter (#628)

Another bad game losing to the same bad team, may be time for another team meeting. BTA will all the injuries right now he may just keep quiet but I don't really think that's his style, he expects hard play no matter the situation.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-26   7:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#631. To: redleghunter (#628)

Then in the 7th Kela came in AGAIN

I think he needs a week off he's been pitching quite a bit for a rookie, probably more innings than he's ever pitched before.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-26   7:09:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#632. To: CZ82 (#629)

Last game was on Wednesday night. UVA won the national title over Vanderbilt. Good series and last game was fun to watch.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-26   9:16:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#633. To: CZ82 (#630)

Another bad game losing to the same bad team, may be time for another team meeting. BTA will all the injuries right now he may just keep quiet but I don't really think that's his style, he expects hard play no matter the situation.

He knows he has a limited team. Will be interested to see how Banny reacts to the latest challenge. Wash used to shrug off long losing streaks. I remember the terrible long losing streaks in 2012 and 2013. Happened right about the same time of year (mid June to the ASB). But back then the Rangers in both years had great Aprils and Mays which allowed them to absorb the bad Junes and Julys.

In 2012, it was right about now the A's were digging themselves out of a hole and became the hottest team in baseball through September 2012. You know how that one ended:)

Wash would fold and double down on calling the same failing pitching from the BP. I also remember him keeping guys like Tepesch and Grimm in the game for 7 innings even though they gave up 7-9 runs in the first 4-5 innings. I remember so many fans asking for his head in the summers of 2012 and 2013. Issue back then was starting pitching and the BP and slumping bats. JD found some fixes to the BP internally and from waivers.

We'll see. This team is rebuilding. It does not have the depth to compete long term. If they can string along some nice winning series then they can keep it close. Sooner or later the Angels are going to figure things out and be at the top of the division. The Astros will have a downturn given the number of rookies on the team. Then there are the Mariners (currently in the basement) who were favorites to dominate the AL West. What's going on there?

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-26   9:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#634. To: CZ82 (#630)

Again, they need to hire us:) Your last comment on Banny is exactly the subject of discussion:

Fraley: As Rangers brace for rugged trip, can Banister trust 'minefield' that is club's bullpen?

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-26   10:14:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#635. To: redleghunter (#632)

Last game was on Wednesday night. UVA won the national title over Vanderbilt. Good series and last game was fun to watch.

Wasn't this year a replay of last year??

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-26   18:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#636. To: CZ82 (#635)

Yikes back at .500. They can't lose anymore games for awhile:)

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-26   22:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#637. To: redleghunter (#633)

I also remember him keeping guys like Tepesch and Grimm in the game for 7 innings even though they gave up 7-9 runs in the first 4-5 innings.

Looks like Bannister did the same thing last night, sometimes you just don't have a choice and right now he doesn't.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   8:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#638. To: redleghunter (#633)

Then there are the Mariners (currently in the basement) who were favorites to dominate the AL West.

Just because the pundits say you have a good team doesn't mean you have a good team, kinda like the Padres.

Stanton seems to be hurt now so I would say their stay in the basement is going to continue for awhile.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   8:41:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#639. To: redleghunter (#634)

Fraley: As Rangers brace for rugged trip, can Banister trust 'minefield' that is club's bullpen?

Left-handers are hitting .364 for 22 at-bats against Freeman.

Sounds like Freeman is about due for a new zipcode.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   8:45:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#640. To: redleghunter (#636) (Edited)

Beltre came back too soon and DD is just starting his rehab assignment, the BP is a mess "Again" and nobody seems to know what pitch he's supposed to be swinging at. So I have a feeling the streak will continue if they face half way decent pitching. They are facing a rookie today and rookies seem to give them fits.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   8:51:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#641. To: redleghunter (#620)

By Cody Stavenhagen / MLB.com | June 25th, 2015 + 24 COMMENTS

ARLINGTON -- In some ways, Rangers third baseman/outfielder Joey Gallo is like most Major League rookies. In some ways, he's nowhere close. • Cast your Esurance All-Star ballot for #ASGWorthy players

After going 1-for-4 in Thursday's 6-3 loss to the Athletics, Gallo has only five hits in his past 36 at-bats. He also has an alarming 20 strikeouts in that 10-game span. Like most rookies, he is dealing with his first instance of Major League struggles.

Gallo, though, was intentionally walked in his second career game. He is a 6-foot-5 left-handed hitter who already has five home runs. Pitchers know he is coming, and they are ready. Like a five-time All-Star, he is a target.

"We knew there would be these kind of ripples during every game," Rangers manager Jeff Banister said. "He's not chasing [pitches]. These guys know who Joey Gallo is. Believe it or not, he's getting pitched like Prince Fielder."

Opposing pitchers have been hammering Gallo low and away, and they are quickly learning how to get him off balance. In that regard, Gallo is still catching up.

"After the first week or so, pitchers have started making adjustments," Gallo said. "Obviously I have to adjust, too, and keep learning the pitchers. There are guys I have never seen still."

Gallo has always been a high-risk, high-reward type hitter. He has rare power, but he also came up with a tendency to chase pitches. Gallo has worked on his plate discipline and even started grinding out some walks.

For reasons like that, Banister said he's not at all concerned with Gallo. It's a matter of a rookie learning the land.

And even though the impending returns of outfielders Josh Hamilton and Delino DeShields could put Gallo's immediate Major league future into question, this still no ordinary rookie.

"I just feel like maybe my timing is little off right now," Gallo said. "I'm not seeing the ball too well. But the last few games, I feel like I've had pretty good swings at least, but the results haven't been there."

Why doesn't this surprise me... "Believe it or not, he's getting pitched like Prince Fielder."

Patience Joey, patience...

As long as somebody is hurt he'll stay...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   11:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#642. To: redleghunter (#640)

They are facing a rookie today and rookies seem to give them fits.

Oh BTW I forgot to mention the rookie is a Lefty...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   12:09:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#643. To: CZ82 (#639)

Trade Freeman to the Giants. He did well against the Dodgers:)

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-27   14:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#644. To: CZ82 (#640)

Watching the early game today. Beltre showing his pain. Had to make a basket catch on a pop fly. Looks uncomfortable all around. One base hit I believe since back.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-27   14:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#645. To: redleghunter (#644)

Watching the early game today.

Looks like the rookie didn't give them quite as much trouble as I envisioned but they did strike out 12 times as a team, with the top 2 batters getting half of them. Seems like they strike out more than anybody else but got to looking and the Cubs, Astros and Padres all have more and Seattle is tied with them at 603. Which means they are "K"ing to the tune of 8+ per game.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/type/expanded

Gallardo had another good day today nice change from the rest of the BP and their struggles. Hopefully "Rod" will have another good game tomorrow to give them even more rest, they face another RHer so that helps.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   16:42:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#646. To: redleghunter (#644)

One base hit I believe since back.

Well he got 2 today...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   16:43:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#647. To: redleghunter (#643)

I was thinking of RR to work more on his pitches to LH hitters, he's supposed to be able to get them out not let them tee off.

Maybe work on a slightly different grip to some of his pitches to get more movement on them, more swings and misses instead of swings and base hits/fly balls...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   16:51:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#648. To: CZ82 (#641)

Sending a message to Martin today. Gallo started in CF. Banny must see the up side to Gallo. He's plugging him in where ever he needs him.

He will come around. In some ways Gallo is like Hammy. Maybe Hammy can help him out.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-28   0:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#649. To: CZ82 (#642)

They got enough hits off that Rookie. Gallardo looked like an ace today. We really needed that.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-28   0:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#650. To: CZ82 (#645)

Chi Chi on the mound tomorrow. Let's see how the kid rebounds. I think he will be fine.

Yeah the K rate is horrible for the Rangers. Choo is terrible again. He's a liability at the plate and looks like an old man in RF. Add to it the liability of his contract. How do we dump his contract?

Some rumor control...SF looking for a good defensive CFer. Hey we got one. Give us Bum and we call it even:)

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-28   1:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#651. To: CZ82 (#646)

Yeah but Beltre is hurting. I know he's a warrior and will press on. He did have a good day. Another early game tomorrow! Noon!

Don't the Canadians go to church and then brunch on Sunday?!

What's up with their early weekend games?

Do the Canadians start drinking beer early or something?:)

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-28   1:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#652. To: redleghunter (#650)

Hopefully "Rod" will have another good game tomorrow to give them even more rest, they face another RHer so that helps.

Chi Chi on the mound tomorrow.

Man yesterday was a bad day posting for me, I have no clue why I was posting about Rodriguez when I meant Gonzalez?? Duhhh... And the other one was Stanton instead of Cano BTA both of them are hurt, maybe I need to crack a bottle of bourbon to clear my head?? :)

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-28   7:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#653. To: redleghunter (#651)

Do the Canadians start drinking beer early or something?:)

Buddy of mine who goes to see friends in New Brunswick talks about how much they drink up there, he claims you can buy a "90" pack of beer there. Don't know if it's because the water is as bad there as it is in Europe or because the people there had ancestors from Europe, my guess is the later.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-28   7:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#654. To: redleghunter (#648)

Sending a message to Martin today. Gallo started in CF.

Yea I noticed that, somebody really needs to sit down and talk to him about his role/future on this team. I have a sneaking suspicion he thinks he's history at the end of the season when that isn't necessarily true. Now if he keeps playing this way they yea he might be gone, but if he gets his schitt together and gets his OBP up to at least .350 or better then he has a place on the team. Maybe not as a starter but a place nonetheless and should play close to 120 games a year.

I'm curious as to how well he speaks English, maybe this is part of the problem he just doesn't totally understand what is being said. Especially when it comes to Magaden and him spending time in the cage together...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-28   8:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#655. To: redleghunter (#650)

Choo is terrible again. He's a liability at the plate and looks like an old man in RF. Add to it the liability of his contract. How do we dump his contract?

Maybe he has another issue they aren't talking about and needs to go on the DL again to get straightened out?? I knew he can't right now because of Hammy and DD being hurt and Rua and Martin sucking and slim pickings in the minors.

Now you can see why I say keep a hold of Mazara you just might need him later this year or even next year. BTA Nick Williams seems to be on a faster track than Mazara right now and he can play CF where Mazara can't... Hmmmmm...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-28   8:34:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#656. To: redleghunter (#650) (Edited)

Some rumor control...SF looking for a good defensive CFer. Hey we got one. Give us Bum and we call it even:)

Ummmm I don't think they would go for that seems a bit one sided. BTA you are trading Bum for Bum.. :)

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-28   8:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#657. To: redleghunter (#648)

Harrison rehab assignment due to end 2 July. Care to guess when they insert him into the new 6 man rotation, vs Diamondbacks or Padres??

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-28   9:09:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#658. To: CZ82 (#654)

There should be enough native Spanish speakers on the team and staff (Pudge?) who can help.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-28   12:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#659. To: CZ82 (#655)

Yes hang on to Mazara and Williams. I agree.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-28   12:20:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#660. To: CZ82 (#657)

Padres. That's my guess.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-28   12:24:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#661. To: redleghunter (#660)

Padres. That's my guess.

Then I'll take the Diamondbacks 2nd game.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-28   14:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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