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Title: Sprinting Towards Gomorrah
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Published: Dec 7, 2013
Author: Steve Deace
Post Date: 2013-12-07 11:39:35 by A K A Stone
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Have you ever wondered what it looks like when a culture collapses? Have you ever wondered if past cultures that collapsed throughout history knew what was about to happen to them? Did they see it coming, or were they blindsided by it?

I’ve often asked myself those questions, but now I’m also asking myself a new one. Provided the Lord chooses not to return and culminate history, I’m now wondering if future generations will ask the same questions about us?

There are several telltale signs of a culture in decline, or on the brink of collapse. One of which is when a culture fails to safeguard its future and ceases to be good stewards of its next generation. Wanting our children to have a better future than we had is one of the most basic instincts of those who are image-bearers of the Creator. Even some of the most cunning and ruthless men in human history were doting fathers. It takes an especially toxic and potent mixture of narcissism and self-loathing to produce a culture that no longer places the needs of its offspring above its most carnal desires.

Such a culture we have sadly become.

And I’m not even talking about abortion, which is the gravest moral injustice of our time. Tragically, anthropologists will tell you every culture in human history has eventually practiced some form of child sacrifice. Ours is just the next in line. The only difference is we’re not sacrificing our kids to a pagan deity for a bountiful harvest or eternal salvation. We sacrifice our babies on the altar of personal convenience instead.

But you can’t expect a culture to protect its unborn when it has so little regard for its already-born, and there are two recent stories that indicate we could seemingly care less about our children.

ABC News just did a story on the “gospel of polyamory,” which means having multiple romantic and sexual partners in an open relationship together. Titled “the end of marriage,” the story said “more couples are opting to become triples or fourples, with live-in lovers spicing up the marital bed and helping to raise the children.”

The natural human family (i.e. one man and one woman living together in holy matrimony) is one of the cornerstones of a civilized society, for its how we’re intended to procreate the species while also passing along our value system to the next generation. What kind of value system is being passed on to the children of such relationships? What kind of value system do you think they’ll champion once they become adults?

Probably one that looks sadly similar to what we saw during this year’s Macy’s Thanksgiving Day parade.

There was Snoopy, Spider-Man, SpongeBob, Hello Kitty, and cross-dressers. Wait? What? Were those actual cross-dressers? As in actual men dressed in drag?

You ain’t just whistling Robert Mapplethorpe.

It’s true. This year’s Macy’s Thanksgiving Day parade featured a performance from the cast of the hit Broadway musical Kinky Boots, complete in all their risqué cross-dressing regalia. Kinky Boots is about the “heroic” exploits of a “fabulous drag queen performer” (and is there any other kind?) named Lola, who teaches her stodgy Northern England village a politically-correct lesson about acceptance all the while saving a family shoe business. Two of the memorable songs from Kinky Boots are titled “Sex is in the heel” and “I am not my father’s son.”

Probably not what most Americans had in mind when they turned on the TV to watch the parade with their kids, I would imagine. Drag queens are now “TV-G” according to NBC. Of course, if you disagree you’re just a “hater” and a “bigot.” Some liberals on Twitter were actually excited that parents at the parade or watching it on TV might have to explain “trannies” to their children.

Adults caught in the tangled web of immorality used to put on a false front if it meant protecting the innocence of our children. Now we shamelessly flaunt our impurities and condemn those who don’t want to rob their children of their innocence. And I say this as someone who is not a prude, and I’m sometimes criticized by some of my fellow Christians for my willingness to discuss sexuality honestly.

But there’s having an all-too-honest discussion about the world we live in and the struggles we all face within it among fellow adults, and then there’s targeting children with beliefs and behaviors even pagan and humanistic societies knew enough to shield their children from.

The “red light district” is becoming “Main Street, USA” in our day and age.

Who knows, maybe we’ll escape the cultural catastrophe that has been the result of all other historic examples of “human nature gone wild.” But I doubt it. Ironically, this is all happening as politically correct Hollywood is gearing up its publicity machine for a movie next spring with an A-list cast about the great flood and Noah’s Ark, which is the first example in history of what happens to a civilization when fallen human nature refuses to be restrained.

However, at least one early reviewer of the film’s script says the movie bypasses all of that to espouse environmentalist propaganda instead. In a blog titled “Darren Aronofsky’s Noah: Environmentalist Wacko,” filmmaker Brian Godawa says, “If you were expecting a biblically faithful retelling of the story of the greatest mariner in history and a tale of redemption and obedience to God, you’ll be sorely disappointed.”

So on one hand our culture shows contempt and disdain for its future generations. And then is so narcissistic that it thinks it can unilaterally revise the standard for judgment and accountability for such heinous actions on the other.

Unless revival happens, that is probably a culture living on borrowed time.

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#12. To: All (#0)

From some of the comments I've read it sounds like having a little bit of morality in ones life is something that's just too hard to live with, and they think themselves to be adults. tsk, tsk, tsk.

CZ82  posted on  2013-12-08   8:10:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: CZ82 (#12) (Edited)

From some of the comments I've read it sounds like having a little bit of morality in ones life is something that's just too hard to live with, and they think themselves to be adults.

Since when do YOU get to define MY morality?

Are you saying I should help you set fire to the pots of oil you want to dunk the "immoral" into?

BTW,adults are people with the maturity to think for themselves,not mindless children that have to blindly follow a superstitious doctrine.

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-08   12:32:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#13)

Since when do YOU get to define MY morality?

Damn Pete. This explains it all to us. Morality is morality. You don't get to define it. You don't know right from wrong. All these years and you haven't figured that simple truth out.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-12-08   13:51:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#16)

You don't know right from wrong.

Of course I know right from wrong,and I don't need a book to instruct me.

For example,I know it is morally wrong to try to deny the same rights you enjoy to other American citizens.

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-08   18:46:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#19)

For example,I know it is morally wrong to try to deny the same rights you enjoy to other American citizens.

No one is for denying anyone any rights.

Fags don't have a right to pretend to be married.

You're into the fag culture just like Obama. You're like Obama in several ways.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-12-08   19:15:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#21)

No one is for denying anyone any rights.

Fags don't have a right to pretend to be married.

ROFLMAO!

I guess you are a follower of the Stalin/Hitler/every other dictator line of "reason" that nobody has any rights you aren't willing to grant them.

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-09   9:35:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete (#24)

I guess you are a follower of the Stalin/Hitler/every other dictator line of "reason" that nobody has any rights you aren't willing to grant them.

Pete lets see. You don't know right from wrong.

You make stuff up.

Hillary and Obama are the stalinists. You agree with them about sex perverts.

Society doesn't have to let sex perverts change the meanings of words in order to make them feel accepted.

Carrying your stupidity to its conclusion would meant that Mike Tyson could have been on the womans Olympic boxing team.

Like I said. You're stupid.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-12-09   18:11:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: A K A Stone (#41)

Pete lets see. You don't know right from wrong.

You make stuff up.

Hillary and Obama are the stalinists. You agree with them about sex perverts.

Correct me if I'm wrong,but aren't YOU the one that agrees with Stalin and Hitler that homosexuals are criminals who are insane,and need to be imprisoned or killed?

Or am I wrong and you think homosexual Americans are citizens of this country and have the same civil rights as the rest of us,including the right to get married in a civil ceremony?

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-09   19:30:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: sneakypete, Don, A K A Stone (#49)

Or am I wrong and you think homosexual Americans are citizens of this country and have the same civil rights as the rest of us,including the right to get married in a civil ceremony?

Given that the definition of marriage is between a man and a woman, gays have just as much a right of getting "married" as a man demanding to become pregnant.

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-10   12:55:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: redleghunter (#67)

Given that the definition of marriage is between a man and a woman, gays have just as much a right of getting "married" as a man demanding to become pregnant.

Ok,then why do you get so worked up about it?

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-10   18:54:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: sneakypete (#72)

Because as it is absurd for a man to bear a child so is "gay marriage."

You could demand to be called Maestro even though you never played an instrument nor conducted.

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-11   0:40:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: redleghunter (#80) (Edited)

Because as it is absurd for a man to bear a child so is "gay marriage."

Why? Because you say so?

Some would say it's absurd for a man to worship a deity that he can't prove exists, but we don't ban you from doing it.

meguro  posted on  2013-12-11   0:44:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: meguro (#81)

There is plenty of evidence for God's existence. You proved in the past to refuse to examine the evidence.

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-11   0:49:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: redleghunter (#86) (Edited)

There is plenty of evidence for God's existence. You proved in the past to refuse to examine the evidence.

What evidence? Those cartoons you post? The Bible, which could have been written by anyone?

Sorry, there's a reason why it's called "belief" or "faith." Look up those words in the "politically correct" dictionary if they confuse you.

meguro  posted on  2013-12-11   0:51:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: meguro (#87)

Faith is not based on a leap in the dark. Again you refused in the past to examine the Scriptures and immediately dismiss them.

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-11   0:54:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: redleghunter (#88) (Edited)

Faith is not based on a leap in the dark. Again you refused in the past to examine the Scriptures and immediately dismiss them.

Sure it is. It exists to explain the unexplainable via science.

I find your religion as absurd as you find gay marriage. You refuse to acknowlege that members of the same sex can love each other just like members of the opposite sex. You refuse to even consider it. That's absurd to me. I asked you many times why homosexuality is such a sin. Not once could you answer the question, aside from "God says so." Sorry, that's just not good enough for anyone but your fellow fundamentalists.

You ever wonder why gay marriage is being legislated in more and more places around the world? Because more and more people see through the bullshit of your religion.

meguro  posted on  2013-12-11   0:57:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: meguro (#89)

I asked you many times why homosexuality is such a sin. Not once could you answer the question, aside from "God says so." Sorry, that's just not good enough for anyone but your fellow fundamentalists.

The evidence for the condemnation of all sin is in Scriptures. You seem to reject that evidence because it does not meet your opinion. The 'fact' that you reject said evidence does not make it go away.

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-11   13:36:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: redleghunter (#115) (Edited)

The evidence for the condemnation of all sin is in Scriptures. You seem to reject that evidence because it does not meet your opinion.

What evidence specifically? What about homosexuality makes it a sin, besides, "God says so?"

Never mind the condemnation, I want to know what about homosexuality is sinful.

What if your deity "commanded" you to jump off a tall building. Would you just do it because he says so?

meguro  posted on  2013-12-11   19:22:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: meguro (#123)

What if your deity "commanded" you to jump off a tall building. Would you just do it because he says so?

Really? There is no such command given it would most likely take a life and God is in the preserving and protection of life. Interesting you use that example because someone else tried to suggest that in Bible and it was not God:

Matthew 4:

5 Then the devil *took Him into the holy city and had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and *said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down; for it is written,

‘He will command His angels concerning You’;

and

‘On their hands they will bear You up, So that You will not strike Your foot against a stone.’”

7 Jesus said to him, “On the other hand, it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’”

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-12   14:38:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: redleghunter, meguro (#135)

There is no such command given it would most likely take a life and God is in the preserving and protection of life.

That Old Testament God did a whole lot of smiting, not altogether involving preserving and protecting life.

[Exodus 11:4] And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt:

[Exodus 11:5] And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sitteth upon the throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill, and all the firstborn on beasts.

Quotes taken from KJV.

nolu chan  posted on  2013-12-12   17:22:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: nolu chan (#141)

[Exodus 11:4] And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt:

[Exodus 11:5] And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sitteth upon the throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill, and all the firstborn on beasts.

Quotes taken from KJV.

Is that bad though?

God being all knowing.

Wouldn't he have a reaspm for that.

For example maybe the extermination of the Jews and Jesus's bloodline destroyed. Making his prophecies and purpose withough effect.

No one saved.

So again is that necessarily "bad"?

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-12-12   19:04:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: A K A Stone (#146)

[Exodus 11:4] And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt:

[Exodus 11:5] And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sitteth upon the throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill, and all the firstborn on beasts.

Quotes taken from KJV.

Is that bad though?

God being all knowing.

Wouldn't he have a reaspm for that.

Whether deemed good or bad, I find it contrary to the generalized claim that "There is no such command given it would most likely take a life and God is in the preserving and protection of life."

It is surely taking the lives of innocent babies. It is difficult to see a good reason for accomplishing any end by that means. Perhaps one needs to be all knowing to rationalize that with preserving and protecting life.

nolu chan  posted on  2013-12-12   19:13:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: nolu chan (#148)

First the subject was "would you jump off a cliff if your diety told you to do so." What I communicated was God would not command a person to take their own lives.

The plagues of Egypt happened because Pharoah saw God's Power demonstrated and knew His demands (free My people). So Pharoah failed to come through and God punished Pharoah for being obstinate and lying to Him.

Moral lesson? Do what God tells you to do the first time He tells you.

The Canaan campaign? God is HOLY, HOLY, HOLY. The Canaanites were wicked and were judged with the edge of the sword. They got exactly what they dished out to others.

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-12   23:36:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: redleghunter (#152)

First the subject was "would you jump off a cliff if your diety told you to do so." What I communicated was God would not command a person to take their own lives.

What you communicated was, as I quoted:

There is no such command given it would most likely take a life and God is in the preserving and protection of life.

Killing innocent babies as related in Exodus, as attributed to God Himself, does not seem to be in the realm of justice, nor in the realm of preserving and protecting life.

Being all knowing, it would seem He could have chosen those He knew were sinners for His retribution. There might be a moral lesson in God taking retribution on sinners, but the moral lesson of slaughtering innocent babies is lost on me. Babies cannot learn any moral lesson.

nolu chan  posted on  2013-12-13   0:42:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: nolu chan, A K A Stone, Liberator, Don (#153)

Killing innocent babies as related in Exodus, as attributed to God Himself, does not seem to be in the realm of justice, nor in the realm of preserving and protecting life.

Being all knowing, it would seem He could have chosen those He knew were sinners for His retribution. There might be a moral lesson in God taking retribution on sinners, but the moral lesson of slaughtering innocent babies is lost on me. Babies cannot learn any moral lesson.

Yes that was my quote and it was in response to someone taking their own lives.

Now on the above commentary, I answered it in shorthand. However, if you want to take up such objections to God, He does have a "complaint department" it is called prayer. Ask Him. I might advise you, the answer you get will be something like this:

Job 38:Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:

2 “Who is this who darkens counsel By words without knowledge? 3 Now prepare yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer Me.

4 “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. 5 Who determined its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? 6 To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?

8 “Or who shut in the sea with doors, When it burst forth and issued from the womb; 9 When I made the clouds its garment, And thick darkness its swaddling band; 10 When I fixed My limit for it, And set bars and doors; 11 When I said, ‘This far you may come, but no farther, And here your proud waves must stop!’

12 “Have you commanded the morning since your days began, And caused the dawn to know its place, 13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, And the wicked be shaken out of it? 14 It takes on form like clay under a seal, And stands out like a garment. 15 From the wicked their light is withheld, And the upraised arm is broken.

16 “Have you entered the springs of the sea? Or have you walked in search of the depths? 17 Have the gates of death been revealed to you? Or have you seen the doors of the shadow of death? 18 Have you comprehended the breadth of the earth? Tell Me, if you know all this.

19 “Where is the way to the dwelling of light? And darkness, where is its place, 20 That you may take it to its territory, That you may know the paths to its home? 21 Do you know it, because you were born then, Or because the number of your days is great?

22 “Have you entered the treasury of snow, Or have you seen the treasury of hail, 23 Which I have reserved for the time of trouble, For the day of battle and war? 24 By what way is light diffused, Or the east wind scattered over the earth?

25 “Who has divided a channel for the overflowing water, Or a path for the thunderbolt, 26 To cause it to rain on a land where there is no one, A wilderness in which there is no man; 27 To satisfy the desolate waste, And cause to spring forth the growth of tender grass? 28 Has the rain a father? Or who has begotten the drops of dew? 29 From whose womb comes the ice? And the frost of heaven, who gives it birth? 30 The waters harden like stone, And the surface of the deep is frozen.

31 “Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades, Or loose the belt of Orion? 32 Can you bring out Mazzaroth in its season? Or can you guide the Great Bear with its cubs? 33 Do you know the ordinances of the heavens? Can you set their dominion over the earth?

34 “Can you lift up your voice to the clouds, That an abundance of water may cover you? 35 Can you send out lightnings, that they may go, And say to you, ‘Here we are!’? 36 Who has put wisdom in the mind? Or who has given understanding to the heart? 37 Who can number the clouds by wisdom? Or who can pour out the bottles of heaven, 38 When the dust hardens in clumps, And the clods cling together?

39 “Can you hunt the prey for the lion, Or satisfy the appetite of the young lions, 40 When they crouch in their dens, Or lurk in their lairs to lie in wait? 41 Who provides food for the raven, When its young ones cry to God, And wander about for lack of food?

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