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Title: Sprinting Towards Gomorrah
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Published: Dec 7, 2013
Author: Steve Deace
Post Date: 2013-12-07 11:39:35 by A K A Stone
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Have you ever wondered what it looks like when a culture collapses? Have you ever wondered if past cultures that collapsed throughout history knew what was about to happen to them? Did they see it coming, or were they blindsided by it?

I’ve often asked myself those questions, but now I’m also asking myself a new one. Provided the Lord chooses not to return and culminate history, I’m now wondering if future generations will ask the same questions about us?

There are several telltale signs of a culture in decline, or on the brink of collapse. One of which is when a culture fails to safeguard its future and ceases to be good stewards of its next generation. Wanting our children to have a better future than we had is one of the most basic instincts of those who are image-bearers of the Creator. Even some of the most cunning and ruthless men in human history were doting fathers. It takes an especially toxic and potent mixture of narcissism and self-loathing to produce a culture that no longer places the needs of its offspring above its most carnal desires.

Such a culture we have sadly become.

And I’m not even talking about abortion, which is the gravest moral injustice of our time. Tragically, anthropologists will tell you every culture in human history has eventually practiced some form of child sacrifice. Ours is just the next in line. The only difference is we’re not sacrificing our kids to a pagan deity for a bountiful harvest or eternal salvation. We sacrifice our babies on the altar of personal convenience instead.

But you can’t expect a culture to protect its unborn when it has so little regard for its already-born, and there are two recent stories that indicate we could seemingly care less about our children.

ABC News just did a story on the “gospel of polyamory,” which means having multiple romantic and sexual partners in an open relationship together. Titled “the end of marriage,” the story said “more couples are opting to become triples or fourples, with live-in lovers spicing up the marital bed and helping to raise the children.”

The natural human family (i.e. one man and one woman living together in holy matrimony) is one of the cornerstones of a civilized society, for its how we’re intended to procreate the species while also passing along our value system to the next generation. What kind of value system is being passed on to the children of such relationships? What kind of value system do you think they’ll champion once they become adults?

Probably one that looks sadly similar to what we saw during this year’s Macy’s Thanksgiving Day parade.

There was Snoopy, Spider-Man, SpongeBob, Hello Kitty, and cross-dressers. Wait? What? Were those actual cross-dressers? As in actual men dressed in drag?

You ain’t just whistling Robert Mapplethorpe.

It’s true. This year’s Macy’s Thanksgiving Day parade featured a performance from the cast of the hit Broadway musical Kinky Boots, complete in all their risqué cross-dressing regalia. Kinky Boots is about the “heroic” exploits of a “fabulous drag queen performer” (and is there any other kind?) named Lola, who teaches her stodgy Northern England village a politically-correct lesson about acceptance all the while saving a family shoe business. Two of the memorable songs from Kinky Boots are titled “Sex is in the heel” and “I am not my father’s son.”

Probably not what most Americans had in mind when they turned on the TV to watch the parade with their kids, I would imagine. Drag queens are now “TV-G” according to NBC. Of course, if you disagree you’re just a “hater” and a “bigot.” Some liberals on Twitter were actually excited that parents at the parade or watching it on TV might have to explain “trannies” to their children.

Adults caught in the tangled web of immorality used to put on a false front if it meant protecting the innocence of our children. Now we shamelessly flaunt our impurities and condemn those who don’t want to rob their children of their innocence. And I say this as someone who is not a prude, and I’m sometimes criticized by some of my fellow Christians for my willingness to discuss sexuality honestly.

But there’s having an all-too-honest discussion about the world we live in and the struggles we all face within it among fellow adults, and then there’s targeting children with beliefs and behaviors even pagan and humanistic societies knew enough to shield their children from.

The “red light district” is becoming “Main Street, USA” in our day and age.

Who knows, maybe we’ll escape the cultural catastrophe that has been the result of all other historic examples of “human nature gone wild.” But I doubt it. Ironically, this is all happening as politically correct Hollywood is gearing up its publicity machine for a movie next spring with an A-list cast about the great flood and Noah’s Ark, which is the first example in history of what happens to a civilization when fallen human nature refuses to be restrained.

However, at least one early reviewer of the film’s script says the movie bypasses all of that to espouse environmentalist propaganda instead. In a blog titled “Darren Aronofsky’s Noah: Environmentalist Wacko,” filmmaker Brian Godawa says, “If you were expecting a biblically faithful retelling of the story of the greatest mariner in history and a tale of redemption and obedience to God, you’ll be sorely disappointed.”

So on one hand our culture shows contempt and disdain for its future generations. And then is so narcissistic that it thinks it can unilaterally revise the standard for judgment and accountability for such heinous actions on the other.

Unless revival happens, that is probably a culture living on borrowed time.

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#1. To: sneakypete, Fred Mertz (#0)

But you just shrug your shoulders and say it doesn't matter. Just like Obama.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-12-07   11:40:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

But you just shrug your shoulders and say it doesn't matter.

It's doesn't matter to me because I never watch these lame-ass parades,and if I had any children I assure you they would have better things to do than sit in the house and watch a parade on tv.

In fact,I had never even heard of that cross-dressing musical until YOU brought it up.

Since you obviously did watch the whole parade on tv,was there NOTHING of interest to you in the parade? Nothing that promoted the values or the interests you have?

Or is your only interest related to others sexual activity?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-07   13:17:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#2)

It's doesn't matter to me because I never watch these lame-ass parades,and if I had any children I assure you they would have better things to do than sit in the house and watch a parade on tv.

I don't watch parades either. The point is it permeates the society. Partially because of immoral indifference from people like you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-12-07   14:08:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#2)

Or is your only interest related to others' sexual activity?

Stoned seems fixated on others' sexuality and religion.

I'll bet he'd ban beer and booze if he were dictator. I'm not sure if dancing would be authorized either.

And missionary position only!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-12-07   17:24:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Fred Mertz (#4)

Stoned seems fixated on others' sexuality and religion.

That's what happens when you're a frustrated, closet gay who hates himself, can't come to grips with his own sexuality, and doesn't have any sex himself.

I know, been there, done that. It's no way to live life. I pity him and hope he manages to overcome it someday.

meguro  posted on  2013-12-07   18:05:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#0)

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-07   19:05:08 ET  (23 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: redleghunter (#6)

That sure is some nice God you worship. The SOB sets fire to a whole city of people because they don't worship him,and you see nothing wrong with that?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-07   19:40:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete (#7)

Isaiah 55:

6 Seek the Lord while He may be found, Call upon Him while He is near. 7 Let the wicked forsake his way, And the unrighteous man his thoughts; Let him return to the Lord, And He will have mercy on him; And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon.

8 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord. 9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-07   20:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: meguro (#5)

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-12-07   23:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#9)

Cool. I was there.

meguro  posted on  2013-12-08   7:41:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete, redleghunter (#7)

To: redleghunter That sure is some nice God you worship. The SOB sets fire to a whole city of people because they don't worship him,and you see nothing wrong with that?

His deity is a sick masochist.

meguro  posted on  2013-12-08   7:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#0)

From some of the comments I've read it sounds like having a little bit of morality in ones life is something that's just too hard to live with, and they think themselves to be adults. tsk, tsk, tsk.

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

CZ82  posted on  2013-12-08   8:10:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: CZ82 (#12) (Edited)

From some of the comments I've read it sounds like having a little bit of morality in ones life is something that's just too hard to live with, and they think themselves to be adults.

Since when do YOU get to define MY morality?

Are you saying I should help you set fire to the pots of oil you want to dunk the "immoral" into?

BTW,adults are people with the maturity to think for themselves,not mindless children that have to blindly follow a superstitious doctrine.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-08   12:32:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete (#13)

I didn't know morality was a superstitious doctrine?

I always thought it was something to strive for kinda like integrity, honesty, loyalty or being a law abiding citizen. People lacking these qualities is what seems to be bringing civilization down.

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

CZ82  posted on  2013-12-08   13:07:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: CZ82 (#14) (Edited)

I didn't know morality was a superstitious doctrine?

Of course it is when it comes as a part of a religious doctrine.

And it always does because nobody on the planet thinks they are more moral than the followers of any religion.

And the truth is nothing is more immoral than organized religions because they want nothing less than total control over everybody on the planet,and every nation.

I always thought it was something to strive for kinda like integrity, honesty, loyalty or being a law abiding citizen.

If you have to strive for it,you will never have it.

People lacking these qualities is what seems to be bringing civilization down

Nobody has killed off more civilizations that the Catholic Church.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-08   13:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#13)

Since when do YOU get to define MY morality?

Damn Pete. This explains it all to us. Morality is morality. You don't get to define it. You don't know right from wrong. All these years and you haven't figured that simple truth out.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-12-08   13:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#15)

And the truth is nothing is more immoral than organized religions

Damn. You sink lower. You hate the constituion and Declaration of Independance. You certainly aren't a cultural American. More like a cultural marxist in many many respects. You haven't a clue.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-12-08   13:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: redleghunter (#6)

The Iowa GOP caucus.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote Third Party


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2013-12-08   16:11:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#16)

You don't know right from wrong.

Of course I know right from wrong,and I don't need a book to instruct me.

For example,I know it is morally wrong to try to deny the same rights you enjoy to other American citizens.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-08   18:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#17)

You hate the constituion and Declaration of Independance. You certainly aren't a cultural American. More like a cultural marxist in many many respects. You haven't a clue.

Ahhh,the irony! I guess you think it is Constitutional to have different classes of citizens with different rights,and that our rights are dependent on the approval of others?

BTW,Bubba,Marxists are people that demand everybody follow the company line. Like you,they considered homosexuals to be sub-citizens,and jailed them or locked them away in mental institutions.

Now,care to tell us all who is more of a Marxist,you,or me?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-08   18:54:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#19)

For example,I know it is morally wrong to try to deny the same rights you enjoy to other American citizens.

No one is for denying anyone any rights.

Fags don't have a right to pretend to be married.

You're into the fag culture just like Obama. You're like Obama in several ways.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-12-08   19:15:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#21)

Fags don't have a right to pretend to be married.

meguro  posted on  2013-12-08   20:36:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: redleghunter (#8)

meguro  posted on  2013-12-08   20:38:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#21)

No one is for denying anyone any rights.

Fags don't have a right to pretend to be married.

ROFLMAO!

I guess you are a follower of the Stalin/Hitler/every other dictator line of "reason" that nobody has any rights you aren't willing to grant them.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-09   9:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: meguro (#11)

What you have no standards?

God has standards.

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-09   11:08:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#13)

"...adults are people with the maturity to think for themselves,not mindless children that have to blindly follow a superstitious doctrine."

There was a man from Germany who said similar things not too long ago.

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-09   11:10:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete, CZ82, Don (#15)

And it always does because nobody on the planet thinks they are more moral than the followers of any religion.

And the truth is nothing is more immoral than organized religions because they want nothing less than total control over everybody on the planet,and every nation.

Psalm 14

King James Version (KJV)

14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the Lord.

5 There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous.

6 Ye have shamed the counsel of the poor, because the Lord is his refuge.

7 Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! when the Lord bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-09   11:15:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: meguro, A K A Stone, Don, sneakypete (#22)

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-09   11:23:23 ET  (23 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: meguro (#23)

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-09   11:24:46 ET  (23 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#21)

Atheists • Atheists and agnostics comprise 9% of adults nationwide (2007); 6% of souls over 61, 9% of those ages 42-60, 14% of those 23-41, and 19% of those 18-22. Indications from the past indicate that these beliefs stay fairly constant through life. http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx? Page=BarnaUpdateNarrowPreview&BarnaUpdateID=272

• In 2008, 70% of Americans believed in a personal God, roughly 12% of Americans are atheist (no God) or agnostic (unknowable or unsure), and another 12% are deistic (a higher power but no personal God). The American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) 2008. http://www.americanreligionsurvey- aris.org/reports/ARIS_Report_2008.pdf

• Among 5 groups, American atheists and agnostics were the segment most likely to describe themselves as being politically liberal (32%) and were the group least likely to describe themselves as being conservative (4%) http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/5-barna-update/66-american-faith-is- diverse-as-shown-among-five-faith-based-segments? tmpl=component&print=1&layout=default&page=

• Protestants constitute 51% of the total US adult population, with Catholics being 24%, and Jewish, Mormon, Atheist and Agnostic all being 2%. Total Unaffiliated: 16%. Orthodox, “Jehovah's witnesses” (so-called) and Buddhist were at 1%, while “Other Christian, Hindus and Other World Religion were 0.5%. All figures rounded off. http://religions.pewforum.org/pdf/report-religious- landscape-study-full.pdf '

• 42% of American atheists and agnostics (who make up approx. 8% of the American adult population) claimed to be stressed out,and 14% said they were lonely. 68% were concerned about the moral condition of th country, versus 98% of evangelicals, and 4% describe themselves as being conservative, versus 64% of evangelicals, but 71% of the former said they have traditional or family- oriented values., with 96% of the latter group concurring. http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/5-barna-update/80-peoples-faith- flavor-influences-how-they-see-themselves

• Evangelicals averaged 6% participation in each of eight behaviors, (exposure to pornography, using profanity in public, gambling, gossiping, engaging in sexual intercourse with someone to whom they were not married, retaliating against someone, getting drunk, and lying.) http://www.barna.org/barna- update/article/16-teensnext-gen/25-young-adults-and-liberals-struggle-with- morality Note : unlike other pollsters, Bara evangelicals, being a movement, are not identified by religious denomination or self-identification, but according to responses to basic criteria: See http://www.barna.org/barna- update/article/13-culture/111-survey-explores-who-qualifies-as-an-evangelical? tmpl=component&print=1&layout=default&page= and http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC- Stats_vs._Evang.html

• Skeptics (atheist or agnostic) averaged five times the level (29%) of evangelicals. Common acts among skeptics included exposure to pornography (50%), gossip (34%) and drunkenness (33%) http://www.barna.org/barna- update/article/16-teensnext-gen/25-young-adults-and-liberals-struggle-with- morality

• While only representing 10% of the population, the segment of the prison population which self-identifies as non-religious is approximately twice as large as found in the general population.” http://www.adherents.com/misc/adh_prison.html

• Among 5 groups, American atheists and agnostics were the segment most likely to describe themselves as being politically liberal (32%) and were the group least likely to describe themselves as being conservative (4%) http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/5-barna-update/66-american-faith-is- diverse-as-shown-among-five-faith-based-segments? tmpl=component&print=1&layout=default&page=

• 70% of self-proclaimed atheists and agnostics affirmed abortion should be legal in all or most circumstances, while 60% approve of clergy performing gay marriages, and 90% approve of cohabitation. ^

• More than three out of four of self-proclaimed atheists and agnostics embrace pornography as a moral behavior; and 66% deem drunkenness and using profanity to be morally acceptable acts. ^

• 75% of the above say that all moral truth is relative to the person and circumstances; only 10% believe in absolute moral truth. ^

• Self-proclaimed American atheists and agnostics were the group that is least concerned (41%) about the moral condition of the nation. ^

• 30% of atheists and agnostics grew up regularly attending Christian churches. Just 10% believe that the Bible is totally accurate in all that it teaches; only 25% say their religious faith is very important in their life; and 15% reject belief in the existence of Satan; 13% do not believe in the reality of the Holy Spirit, and 20% reject that Jesus led a sinless life. ^

• A major survey by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life found that only 14% of atheists and 10% of agnostics believe that homosexuality is a way of life that should be discouraged by society, versus 51% of of Protestant churches (64% of Evangelical) and 30% of Catholics. http://religions.pewforum.org/pdf/report2religious-landscape-study-key- findings.pdf

• Just 13% of atheists and 14% of agnostics believe abortion should be illegal in most cases, versus 49% of Protestant churches (61% of Evangelical) and 45% of Catholics. ^

• Only 19% of atheists said their values are threatened by Hollywood, versus 53% of those in evangelical churches , 46% of Protestant churches and 43% of Catholics. ^

• Atheists and agnostics religious skeptics were also much less likely to be driven to have a clear sense of purpose in life (55%, compared to 77% of all American adults) or to want just one marriage partner for life (58% versus an 80% U.S. average). They were also less interested in making a difference in the world (45%, versus 56% nationally) and in having close friendships, http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/18-congregations/29-survey-reveals- the-life-christians-desire (2008) and the least likely to look forward to spending time with friends http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/13- culture/145-americans-just-want-a-good-night-of-sleep? tmpl=component&print=1&layout=default&page=

• 56% atheists and agnostics believe that “radical Christianity” is just as threatening in America as is radical Islam. http://www.barna.org/barna- update/article/12-faithspirituality/102-atheists-and-agnostics-take-aim-at- christians?tmpl=component&print=1&layout=default&page=

• 22% of those who self-identified as having No Religion in 2001 were living together with a partner outside marriage (fornication), versus 6% or less of those in Catholic or Protestant denominations. ARIS 2001, p. 27 http://www.gc.cuny.edu/faculty/research_briefs/aris.pdf However, the 2008 Pew study shows the first category as 10%: http://religions.pewforum.org/pdf/report- religious-landscape-study-full.pdf

• 51% of atheists and 42% of adults who associate with a faith other than Christianity had co-habited. http://atheismexposed.tripod.com/atheists_divorce.htm

• Based upon the percentage of single adults from the The American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) 2001, atheists are 58.7 percent more likely to get divorced than Pentecostals and Baptists, the two born-again Christian groups with the highest rate of divorce, and more than twice as likely to get divorced than Christians in general. Stated in “The Irrational Atheist," by Vox Day, (Dallas, TX: BenBella Books, Inc., 2008). http://www.scribd.com/doc/7682654/The- Irrational-Atheist-by-Vox-Day based upon (ARIS) 2001 http://www.gc.cuny.edu/faculty/research_briefs/aris.pdf

• The percent currently divorced or separated varies from a low of 6% (Jehovah’s Witnesses) to a high of 14% (Pentecostals), with Catholics and No Religion being 9%. ^

• At 19%, the No Religion group showed the lowest incidence of marriage of all twenty-two groups. In sharp contrast, those identifying with the Assemblies of God or Evangelical/Born Again Christians showed the highest proportions married, 73% and 74% respectively. ^

• In the U.S. population as a whole, 48 percent of adults are male, as are 47 percent Catholic adults. By comparison, males account or 56 percent of the no- religion group, 70 percent of Atheists, and 75 percent of Agnostics. ^ Also, the Pew Research Landscape study finds 70% of atheists and 64% of agnostics are male, and 30% and 34% respectively, are female. http://religions.pewforum.org/pdf/report-religious-landscape-study-full.pdf

• While Pentecostals, Baptists, and Mainline Christians are 56%-58% female, those who profess no religion or self-identified as atheists or agnostics have a ratio of 60 males to 40 females. (ARIS) 2001 http://www.gc.cuny.edu/faculty/research_briefs/aris.pdf

• 37 percent of all Americans, and 55 percent of atheists are are under age 35. Only 20 percent of the latter are 50 and over. http://www.gc.cuny.edu/faculty/research_briefs/aris.pdf ^

• As regards voter registration (2001), those with No Religion were 43% Independent, 30% Democrat, and 17% Republican. Those identifying as Evangelical/Born Again were 58% Republican, 20% Independent and 12% Democrat. ^

• Self-proclaimed American atheists and agnostics were the group most likely to define themselves as “mostly liberal” on current issues in 2002. They were also least likely to donate any money to a religious center or non-profit organization. Among those who did donate funds to non-profits, atheists and agnostics gave away the least amount of money during the year. 5 http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/5-barna-update/66-american-faith-is- diverse-as-shown-among-five-faith-based-segments? tmpl=component&print=1&layout=default&page

• 78% of atheists and agnostics were registered to vote, versus 89% of active- faith Americans. 20% of the former volunteer to help a non-church-related non- profit, and 41% of said they personally helped or served a homeless or poor person versus 30% and 61%, respectively, of active-faith Americans. http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/12-faithspirituality/102-atheists-and- agnostics-take-aim-at-christians?tmpl=component&print=1&layout=default&page=

• The typical no-faith American donated $200 in 2006, versus $1500 contributed by the prototypical active-faith adult. Even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics, and only 7% of active-faith adults failed to contribute any personal funds in 2006, versus 22% among the no-faith adults. ^

• 12% of atheists and agnostics were focused on living a comfortable, balanced lifestyle, versus 4% of Christians in general. to be 10% of the former class were focused on acquiring wealth, versus 2% of the latter. ^

• 25% of atheists and agnostics said the phrase "deeply spiritual" accurately describes them, while 67% described themselves as being "at peace,” a state 90% of Christians affirmed. ^

• About 40% of skeptics were registered as Democrats, 40% as independents and just 20% as Republicans. 76% of atheists and agnostics gave their vote to Sen. Obama, while only 23% backed Sen. McCain. That is a step up from the level of support Democrats have previously received from skeptics. In 2004, 64% of atheists and agnostics voted for Democratic challenger John Kerry. http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/13-culture/18-how-people-of-faith- voted-in-the-2008-presidential-race?tmpl=component&print=1&layout=default&page=

• On average, weekly churchgoers donate 3.8% of their income to charity, compared to 0.8% for those who never go. Independent Sector (charitable clearing house): Atheists won’t save Europe by Don Feder; http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=27937

• Religious citizens who make $49,000 gave away about 3.5 times as much money as secular citizens with the same income. They also volunteered twice as often, are 57 percent more likely to help homeless persons, and two-thirds more likely to give blood at their workplace. Arthur C. Brooks' Who Really Cares. http://www.christianitytoday.com/bc/2008/001/8.11.html

• On questions about Christianity in 2010, which included various questions about the Bible, Mormons (7.9 out of 12 right on average) and white evangelical Protestants (7.3 correct on average) showed the highest levels of knowledge. Jews (7.9 out of 11) and atheists/agnostics (7.4) had the best grades on questions about other world religions, including Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and Judaism. White mainline Protestants scored 5.8 and 4.9 respectively, and white Catholics scored 5.9 and 5.1. The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, “U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey,” Spet. 28. 2010 Back

Sources collected from http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-09   11:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#15)

Nobody has killed off more civilizations that the Catholic Church.

There you go again. ALWAYS confusing the Catholic church with Christianity. It isn't. Catholicism is codified paganism courtesy of Roman emperor Constantine. Constantine was a pagan til the day he died.

war has to do something for entertainment; the voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2013-12-09   13:23:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: hondo68 (#18) (Edited)

So, are you saying homosexuality is a disgusting perversion? Or just when it is practiced by the GOP? How come meguro doesn't get on your case, 'judging' his chosen defining character trait? Politics does make for some strange bedfellows.

war has to do something for entertainment; the voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2013-12-09   13:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: redleghunter (#26)

There was a man from Germany who said similar things not too long ago.

You mean the former Catholic that created a new religion?

Seems like he and his BFF prior to the invasion of the USSR were both religious. Stalin went to seminary school to become a priest.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-09   15:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: redleghunter (#27) (Edited)

Repeating words written in a book of fiction is a meaningless exercise.

Although it is one step above posting propaganda cartoons to brainwash the children.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-09   15:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Rudgear (#31)

There you go again. ALWAYS confusing the Catholic church with Christianity.

There IS no confusion about this because prior to Martin Luther and the Reformation,the Catholic Church WAS the Christian religion.

Protestants are nothing more than a offshoot of Catholicism.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-12-09   15:25:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: sneakypete (#34)

words written in a book of fiction

Show me the evidence.

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-09   17:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#35)

There IS no confusion about this because prior to Martin Luther and the Reformation,the Catholic Church WAS the Christian religion.

Go tell that to the Eastern Orthodox among others in the East who refused to kiss the bishop of Rome's ring. I think the Waldensians would have been surprised too.

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-09   18:03:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: sneakypete (#33)

Seems like he and his BFF prior to the invasion of the USSR were both religious. Stalin went to seminary school to become a priest.

Really Hitler and Staliin were practicing Christians? Where's the evidence? The evidence is stacked against both of them. The fruit must match the tree ya know. But since you mentioned that, there is a Chick tract for that too.

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-09   18:05:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Rudgear, sneakypete, A K A Stone, Don, Liberator (#31)

There you go again. ALWAYS confusing the Catholic church with Christianity. It isn't. Catholicism is codified paganism courtesy of Roman emperor Constantine. Constantine was a pagan til the day he died.

Indeed:

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-09   18:07:17 ET  (23 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: sneakypete (#15)

And it always does because nobody on the planet thinks they are more moral than the followers of any religion.

In some circumstances I think that's true, but I think that's a small minority of religious followers. (At least of the ones I know).

The way I see the Bible is it's a book of expectations and warnings. It says what you should expect if you live your life as a decent person and it's a warning to those who live like an immoral POS. It's just reinforcement to lessons you should have learned from friends and family as you grew up.

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

CZ82  posted on  2013-12-09   18:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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