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Title: Elon Musk details 800-mph Hyperloop transportation system
Source: Business Week
URL Source: http://www.businessweek.com/article ... on-musk-explains-the-hyperloop
Published: Aug 12, 2013
Author: Ashlee Vance
Post Date: 2013-08-12 21:47:19 by jwpegler
Keywords: None
Views: 2251
Comments: 4

Almost a year after Elon Musk, chief executive of Tesla Motors (TSLA) and SpaceX, first floated the idea of a superfast mode of transportation, he has finally revealed the details: a solar-powered, city-to-city elevated transit system that could take passengers and cars from Los Angeles to San Francisco in 30 minutes. In typical Musk fashion, the Hyperloop, as he calls it, immediately poses a challenge to the status quo—in this case, California’s $70 billion high-speed train that has been knocked by Musk and others as too expensive, too slow, and too impractical.

In Musk’s vision, the Hyperloop would transport people via aluminum pods enclosed inside of steel tubes. He describes the design as looking like a shotgun with the tubes running side by side for most of the journey and closing the loop at either end. These tubes would be mounted on columns 50 to 100 yards apart, and the pods inside would travel up to 800 miles per hour. Some of this Musk has hinted at before; he now adds that pods could ferry cars as well as people. “You just drive on, and the pod departs,” Musk told Bloomberg Businessweek in his first interview about the Hyperloop.

Musk published a blog post detailing the Hyperloop on Monday. He also held a press call to go over the details.

Elon Musk Musk has built his entrepreneurial career attacking businesses he deems inefficient or uninspiring. He co-founded PayPal in a bid to shake up the banking industry, then used the fortune he made selling the startup to eBay (EBAY) to fund equally ambitious efforts in transportation. Tesla Motors, for example, has created the highest-performing, highest-rated all-electric car and a complementary network of charging stations scattered around North America. Meanwhile, SpaceX competes against entire nations in the market to send up satellites and resupply the International Space Station.

In the case of the Hyperloop, Musk started focusing on public transportation after he grew disenchanted with the plans for California’s high-speed rail system. Construction on the highly political, $70 billion project is meant to begin in earnest this year, with plans to link cities from San Diego to Sacramento by 2029. “You have to look at what they say it will cost vs. the actual final costs, and I think it’s safe to say you’re talking about a $100 billion-plus train,” Musk says, adding that the train is too slow and a horrendous land rights mess.

Musk thinks the Hyperloop would avoid many of the land issues because it’s elevated. The tubes would, for the most part, follow I-5, the dreary but direct freeway between L.A. and San Francisco. Farmers would not have swaths of their land blocked by train tracks but could instead access their land between the columns. Musk figures the Hyperloop could be built for $6 billion with people- only pods, or $10 billion for the larger pods capable of holding people and cars. All together, his alternative would be four times as fast as California’s proposed train, at one-10th the cost. Tickets, Musk says, would be “much cheaper” than a plane ride.

As for safety? Musk has heard of it. “There’s an emergency brake,” he says. “Generally, though, the safe distance between the pods would be about 5 miles, so you could have about 70 pods between Los Angeles and San Francisco that leave every 30 seconds. It’s like getting a ride on Space Mountain at Disneyland.” Musk imagines that riding on the Hyperloop would be quite pleasant. “It would have less lateral acceleration—which is what tends to make people feel motion sick—than a subway ride, as the pod banks against the tube like an airplane,” he says. “Unlike an airplane, it is not subject to turbulence, so there are no sudden movements. It would feel supersmooth.”

The Hyperloop was designed to link cities less than 1,000 miles apart that have high amounts of traffic between them, Musk says. Under 1,000 miles, the Hyperloop could have a nice edge over planes, which need a lot of time to take off and land. “It makes sense for things like L.A. to San Francisco, New York to D.C., New York to Boston,” Musk says. “Over 1,000 miles, the tube cost starts to become prohibitive, and you don’t want tubes every which way. You don’t want to live in Tube Land.” Right?

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#1. To: All (#0)

4 times the speed at 1/10th of the cost of the government system. In other words, 40 times the value. WOW! Capitalism, what a concept.

Who was the leftist that used to post here 3 or 4 years ago, that claimed to be from Wall Street, who just loved government trains?

I can't remember his name, but he was he one of the most prolific posters on the site for a long time.

I would love to see his reaction to this. Of course it would be derision and denial. But I'd love to see it. It would be a real hoot. :):):)


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jwpegler  posted on  2013-08-12   21:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: jwpegler (#1)

4 times the speed at 1/10th of the cost of the government system. In other words, 40 times the value. WOW! Capitalism, what a concept.

Who was the leftist that used to post here 3 or 4 years ago, that claimed to be from Wall Street, who just loved government trains?

I can't remember his name, but he was he one of the most prolific posters on the site for a long time.

I would love to see his reaction to this. Of course it would be derision and denial. But I'd love to see it. It would be a real hoot. :):):)

I doubt he is welcome to post on this site where the owner bans posters when they object to him making fun of their dead relatives.

So far all capitalism has shown us is the ability to go out of business and move to a foreign country, after they have made their wad here. This venture, if it proves to be viable will end up being gov subsidized like all the others.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2013-08-13   9:30:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: jwpegler (#1) (Edited)

Who was the leftist that used to post here 3 or 4 years ago, that claimed to be from Wall Street, who just loved government trains?

Willie Green, aka Boxcar Willie?


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Hondo68  posted on  2013-08-13   12:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#3)

Willie Green, aka Boxcar Willie?

No, it someone smarter and more articulate.


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jwpegler  posted on  2013-08-14   17:03:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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