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Title: What Zimmerman Really Means
Source: http://freenj.blogspot.com/2013/07/what-zimmerman-really-mea
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Published: Jul 12, 2013
Author: Tom
Post Date: 2013-07-12 15:52:02 by who cares
Keywords: 21 st, century, lynching
Views: 20627
Comments: 68

The Zimmerman trial taken on it's face, is a clear case of self defense. The lawyers and politicians have done all they can to muddy the waters, but by the only reasonable account, George Zimmerman was physically attacked by Trayvon Martin, and shot him to defend himself from imminent harm. The physical evidence, witness testimony, even the phone calls to 911 and the non emergency police line all support that view.

If Trayvon Martin had been white, there would have never been a trial. In fact initially there wasn't. It wasn't until Al Sharpton, the New Black Panthers, the Obama justice department and other racial grievance groups began applying political pressure that a trial occurred at all. It was a political witch hunt from the start. And I fear more is at risk here than the life and freedom of one man.

I believe I have a right to defend myself from someone trying to harm me, no matter what color they are. Barak Obama and Eric Holder seem to feel very differently about that. That issue is very much on trial today in Florida. The racial grievance mongers of the left have turned the courts into a circus looking for the mythical white on black violent crime, but they keep coming up short. Tawana Brawley, the fictional Duke Lacrosse rape, and now 'white hispanic' George Zimmerman's accusations were all invented from whole cloth to fit into an imaginary reality where blacks suffer violence at the hands of racially bigoted whites.

Violent crime in white America (white on white crime) is slightly less frequent than violent crime than in Finland, while violent crime in black America (black on black crime) is slightly more frequent than violent crime in Nigeria. This is obvious to everyone who wants to look at the numbers without cloaking them in post deconstructionist nonsense. It makes no sense to think that the 'cause' of black America's violent crime is something created and propagated by white Americans. But that's the fantasy that the far left continues to try to sell us. And that's why they need the white on black crime fantasy so badly.

For my part as a white American, I think the circumstance in black America is a tragedy. I would very much prefer to see it change. I think the world could be incredibly enriched if black American would stop killing each other with such remarkable regularity. But recognizing that it's bad is not the same as taking the blame for it. I am not responsible for the high murder rate in inner city Chicago, or Camden, or Detroit. And I'm damned tired of the government doing things to me (and the law abiding tax paying citizens like me) because of it. George Zimmerman's indictment was very much an indictment of me and my values. This is why I've taken it so personally.

But it's not me and the people like me causing the problems of black America. If anything, it's the bigotry of low expectations that continues to be propagated by the left, that has left black American culture to so thoroughly fester on virtually ever social metric. In my opinion the only way to save black America is to begin holding it to a single higher standard again. The same standard that the rest of us are held to.

Trayvon Martin may have been a typical black youth from a single parent home, but measured against a single standard set by all kids his age, he was a relatively violent kid. He picked a fight with the wrong guy and tragically died for it. But white America didn't kill him, black America did.

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#29. To: Fred Mertz (#28)

His ip matches up with fartsky aks John L. Or the Yukon Fag.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-07-14   0:43:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: who cares (#0)

I think that Zimmerman acted in self defense. I also am sad for the Martins. They lost their son. I can understand why Martin may have been pissed off because Zimmerman was following him. But apparently he attacked Zimmerman and that was a legal as well as a fatal mistake.

That doesn't mean Trayvon Martin was a bad person in every way. I apologize if I ever characterized him that way.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-07-14   0:46:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: nolu chan (#18)

A grand jury indictment is a constitutional requirement that only applies to the Federal government. It does not apply to State charges where an information may be preferred.

Thanks for the information.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-07-14   1:04:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete, nolu chan (#21)

Neither did I.

We The People  posted on  2013-07-14   1:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: who cares (#9)

I don't want to be associated with this site and it's group W loser list of libTURD whores and tools.

And yet here you are, in all your glory. Weird.

We The People  posted on  2013-07-14   1:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#29)

His ip matches up with fartsky aks John L. Or the Yukon Fag.

The posting style is pure Mad Dog. Maybe they're in the same mental institution in Alaska.



"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2013-07-14   1:39:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: calcon, Thunderbird (#22)

Oh geez, another half witted asshole, drunk on some cheap fucking wine trying to start some shit. Go back to the shit covered paper box you live in and sleep it off you worthless, toothless derelict.

Your punk ass isn't even worth slapping around you little bitch

You shouldn't talk to Stone's official moderator Jethro, like that. He's special.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2013-07-14   1:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: hondo68 (#34) (Edited)

The posting style is pure Mad Dog. Maybe they're in the same mental institution in Alaska.

They used to brag, along with that 22Rifle, on LP about trying to confuse posters by posting on each other's ID. Mad Dog used to also converse with himself as Devil Dog. It was hilarious as he would get his and Devil Dog's parts mixed up.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2013-07-14   1:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Fred Mertz (#28)

No, he's Mad Dog, the out of control foul mouthed one.

There's a difference?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-07-14   9:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#30)

hat doesn't mean Trayvon Martin was a bad person in every way. I apologize if I ever characterized him that way.

He was a teenage thug and wannabe gangsta that had been arrested twice for possession of burglary tools,and at least one time was found to be in possession of items stolen from a school locker.

On top of that his personal web page had photos of him flashing gang signs,holding a Glock (which was illegal for a 17 year old to have and was probably stolen),and talking about his MMA ability and bragging about how he liked to start fights.

His two ton girlfriend has even proven him to be a racist that hates white people.

Given all that,YOU tell us all in what ways he was a good person.

BTW,WHY haven't we heard squat about the handgun he is holding in the video? You KNOW the DA's office knows about this. I would be VERY interested in finding out if any of the burglaries in the gated community where his father was living with his girlfriend if that handgun was reported stolen in any of the burglaries and the DA's office covered it up.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-07-14   10:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: who cares (#14)

I'm really a very sensitive person.

You're kidding. Man is that an understatement.

We The People  posted on  2013-07-14   15:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Fred Mertz (#20)

Clean up your act..

Awww..Freddie, did I hurt your delicate sensibilities with that shocking comment?

-btw Didn't I just read you're also whining to your girlfriend war about your being censored on some other site?

What a fucking useless tool you are.

Thunderbird  posted on  2013-07-14   18:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Fred Mertz (#26)

We appreciate it even if we won't kiss your ass.

OH FRED!!!

You should know by now, I don't take kindly to 'ass-kissers' as I spotted you a mile away and a long time ago.

At least you stay 'consistent'...I've give you THAT.

{{{chuckle}}}

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2013-07-14   19:33:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: calcon (#25)

Actually my account was closed here then mysteriously reappeared after I found other forums to populate with current news.

Just don't have that much time to do them all but I'm skating on thin ice on a liberal place so I may have more time, sooner than later. Pending...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2013-07-14   19:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: sneakypete (#38)

Given all that,YOU tell us all in what ways he was a good person.

He was a human being. His parents came across as classy people. He was probably pretty much like them. Most kids are like their parents to a degree.

I can understand why he too could have felt intimidated by Zimmerman. Zimmerman doesn't seem to have broken any laws. I think Zimmerman had a right to defend himself.

Trayvon made a mistake in apparently attacking Zimmerman. It was a crime.

Did Trayvon really tell Zimmerman that he was going to die tonight. Did he really reach for something like Zimmerman said. Or did Zimmerman just say that to cover himself because he was afraid.

Although I feel the verdict was correct. I still feel sad for Trayvons parents.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-07-14   23:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Brian S (#42)

Actually my account was closed here then mysteriously reappeared after I found other forums to populate with current news.

I think I timed you out for one day. I honestly can't remember for what. Except you said something that pissed me off.

I may have deserved it. I know I know how to piss people off too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-07-14   23:13:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A K A Stone (#44)

I may have deserved it.

You're the biggest jerk on the Internet.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-07-14   23:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Thunderbird (#40)

GFY

LOLAYAYDA

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-07-14   23:48:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Fred Mertz (#45)

You're the biggest jerk on the Internet.

I'm number 2 and no matter what I do I can't catch up with you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-07-14   23:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#47)

Okay, that's funny.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-07-14   23:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Thunderbird (#40)

Awww..Freddie, did I hurt your delicate sensibilities with that shocking comment?

-btw Didn't I just read you're also whining to your girlfriend war about your being censored on some other site?

What a fucking useless tool you are.

Shouldn't you be checking up on your girlfriend Boris and telling her what a good job she is doing of chasing posters away from this site?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2013-07-15   2:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: A K A Stone (#43)

Given all that,YOU tell us all in what ways he was a good person.

He was a human being.

So was John Wayne Gacey and Al Capone.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-07-15   3:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Thunderbird, calFAG (#19)

LOL!

"white" America didn't kill him, "black" America did

who cares  posted on  2013-07-15   15:01:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone (#27)

LOL!

You are a LYING sack of shit pebbles.

AND you have no balls.

Did I mention that you are simpering passive aggressive cunt?

Why won't you remove me from this site you slimy little cunt?

Oh yeah, "passive aggressive" eh nimrod?

Does your wife bitch slap you when you talk back to her?

Does she have you cooking and doing the dishes and housework?

Why oh why are you such a repulsive cowardly little cunt pebbles?

?

Oh well ...

FTW

"white" America didn't kill him, "black" America did

who cares  posted on  2013-07-15   15:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone (#29)

Another LIE.

What a MORON you are pebbles.

What a stupid cunt you are.

"And the horse you rode in on."

"white" America didn't kill him, "black" America did

who cares  posted on  2013-07-15   15:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Fred Mertz (#28)

Turns out that I'm "who cares" freddy boy.

"Mad Dog" was never "out of control" freddy boy.

You little cunts cry at loud sounds screaming about how you've spoiled your news tutus.

It is a given fact that "Mad Dog" can cuss VERY skillfully.

But it takes a log to bash you simpering libTURD morons in the head to get your attention.

So it's a useful tool.

Besides "Mad Dog" and I both love the way you little cunts whine and cry.

Your tears are sweet.

Bitch.

LOL!

"white" America didn't kill him, "black" America did

who cares  posted on  2013-07-15   15:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone (#30)

I'm SO past caring what you "think" about anything pebbles.

As I have been telling you by LF mail for months all I want is for you to remove me from your site.

You LIED about me being yukon, or maybe you really are that stupid?

I don't get what you achieve by keeping me here?

I'll be happy to run a seminar on how to insult libTURDS and know nothing passive aggressive cunts.

I might have to get out my notebooks to come up with some particularly foul cussing.

Call it pebbles.

"white" America didn't kill him, "black" America did

who cares  posted on  2013-07-15   15:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: who cares, A K A Stone, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#55) (Edited)

What is your trip, dip? You want Stone to ban you so that you can whine about it on the Daily KOZ, DU, and the Peoples Scrotum?



"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2013-07-15   15:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: We The People (#33)

Yes it is weird..

Maybe you could ask pebbles why he won't ban or remove me from this site like I've been asking him to do for months?

All I want is to NOT be allowed to post here.

What's the big deal?

I guess pebbles has no other way to two block me?

Apparently it's important that I share my views with you gurls here at this site?

I don't see it.

Oh well ...

FTW

"white" America didn't kill him, "black" America did

who cares  posted on  2013-07-15   15:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: whinnyOLD (#36)

LOL!

whinnyOLD you are such a lying libTURD skank MORON.

"Mad Dog" NEVER EVER pretended to be any other poster.

EVER.

I wish you'd post your picture, we're having new toilet paper printed up.

OH well ...

FTW

"white" America didn't kill him, "black" America did

who cares  posted on  2013-07-15   15:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: We The People (#39)

Aw man yer making me get all misty!

I am so touched that you "care".

Really.

OH well ...

FTW

"white" America didn't kill him, "black" America did

who cares  posted on  2013-07-15   15:40:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: hondo68 (#56)

If you are talking to me cunt face, that behavior is YOUR kind of behavior you little cunt.

Cunts such as you do what you accuse me of wanting to do hondope.

I'd bet you any amount right now you can NEVER find anyplace in any chat or talk site where I've ever even referenced another site.

Of course the truth means nothing to lying scum such as you hondope.

"white" America didn't kill him, "black" America did

who cares  posted on  2013-07-15   15:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: sneakypete (#37)

Gee willikers little man that was hurtful.

Oh how now shall I live?

/NOT

FTW

BAN ME pebbles! BAN ME you simpering CUNT.

who cares  posted on  2013-07-15   15:59:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: who cares (#61)

Petey's gonna kick your ass and wash your mouth out with soap.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-07-15   16:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: who cares (#61)

good morning douchebag, I see that you're spreading that special kind of STUPID you're known for.

calcon  posted on  2013-07-15   16:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: who cares (#59)

Aw man yer making me get all misty!

LOL!

Good stuff.

We The People  posted on  2013-07-15   17:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Fred Mertz (#62)

I'm shaking in my boots freddy boy.

who cares  posted on  2013-07-16   14:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: calFAG (#63)

Poor calFAG you just can't stop posting while watching yourself in the mirror.

Bad habit calFAG.

Seek profesional help immediately.

who cares  posted on  2013-07-16   14:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: who cares (#66)

Seek profesional [sic] help immediately.

'Tard.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-07-16   14:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: who cares (#66)

Hey dicklips here's a link to your "coming out" thread.

www.pdf-archive.com/2011/...-comes-out-of-the-closet/

calcon  posted on  2013-07-16   15:48:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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