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Title: Boehner Extends Olive Branch on 'Fiscal Cliff' (tax increases)
Source: CNBC
URL Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/49731550
Published: Nov 7, 2012
Author: Reuters
Post Date: 2012-11-07 17:54:49 by Hondo68
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Keywords: want you to lead, a balanced approach, will include higher taxes
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House Speaker John Boehner offered Wednesday to pursue a deal with a victorious President Barack Obama that will include higher taxes "under the right conditions" to help reduce the nation's staggering debt and put its finances in order.

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Speaker of the House John Boehner

"Mr. President, this is your moment," Boehner told reporters, speaking about the "fiscal cliff" that will hit in January. "We want you to lead."

Boehner said House Republicans are asking Obama "to make good on a balanced approach" that would including spending cuts and address government social benefit programs.

"Let's find the common ground that has eluded us," Boehner said while congratulating the president on winning a second term. (Read more: Obama Re-elected as Crucial Ohio Goes His Way.)


The Ohio Republican spoke a day after the president's clear re-election victory. He said conditions on higher taxes would include a revamped tax code to make it cleaner and fairer, fewer loopholes and lower rates for all.


The speaker noted that during one-on-one budget talks with the president in the summer of 2011, Obama had "endorsed the idea of tax reform and lower rates, including a top rate of lower than 35 percent," the present top rate.

"We're closer than we think to the critical mass needed legislatively to get tax reform done," he said. (Read more: Alarm on Wall Street Grows as 'Fiscal Cliff' Nears.)

Boehner did not specify what loopholes House Republicans might consider trimming. Nor did he take questions.

His comments were generally along the lines of proposals by vanquished Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney that also were vague on specifics. Still, the speaker's comments signaled a willingness to enter into talks. He suggested Congress could use its upcoming lame-duck session to get the ball moving on such a compromise.

"We can't solve the problem of our fiscal imbalance overnight...This is going to take time," he said.


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#41. To: A K A Stone (#31)

Rombama

Who is that?

He's the guy on the poster hanging on your bedroom wall.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   20:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone (#32)

You're not only senile and amoral but now you have proven yourself to be stupid.

How "Christian" of you.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   20:11:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: A K A Stone, *Irony* (#34)

Simpleton. He quoted the communist manifesto.

If I quote it to you does that make you a communist?

And you dare to call someone else a simpleton. BTW,"complex" isn't a word for a communist duplex. Just trying to help the handicapped.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   20:13:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: sneakypete (#38)

First off where do you see he wants to control the globe.

That's what globalists do.

You have to cite examples of what Romney said he would do or what he did to make the point. Here let me give you an example.

Child molesters touch kids inappropriately.

You're a child molester.

You see now simpleton?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   20:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: sneakypete (#38)

Secondly simpleton was Julius Caesar a communist. He too wanted to control the globe.

You really are a freaking idiot.

Moron. I used that as an example of your flawed little simple mind. You said Romney was a communist because he wanted to control the globe. Those were your words. So again Julius Caesar must have been a communist because he wanted to control the globe. You're getting old.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   20:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: sneakypete (#39)

I'm more of an American than you have ever been. Not only did I volunteer to serve in a combat role in the military during a time of war,but so has every generation of my family going back to the Revolutionary War.

The ones who Fourth in the revolutionary war would be ashaemed to call you a descendant based on what you say about the first amendment and other parts of the constitution they fought for. Just saying.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   20:22:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: sneakypete (#42)

You're not only senile and amoral but now you have proven yourself to be stupid.

How "Christian" of you.

Thank You. I am supposed to be honest.

I said you were senile because you talked about me moving to Kentucky to vote for Rand Paul for President.

I said you are amoral because you don't know right from wrong and you believe whole heartedly and defend doggedly queer pretend marriage.

I said you were stupid because you said Romney was to the Left of Obama. That is a stupid statement.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   20:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#24)

Party People NEVER let facts confuse them.

It's like trying to explain to these people that the earth IS NOT flat...but, in the face of overwhelming evidence, they simply refuse to believe it

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-11-08   20:27:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: freedomsnotfree (#48)

Party People NEVER let facts confuse them.

It's like trying to explain to these people that the earth IS NOT flat...but, in the face of overwhelming evidence, they simply refuse to believe it

No it is more like this. Let me make the point that you are an idiot like you made the point that Romney is a communist. I'm not saying you are an idiot. I am just using your debate style. Here goes.

You're an idiot.

id·i·ot (d-t) n. 1. A foolish or stupid person. 2. A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   20:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: freedomsnotfree (#48)

Furthermore.

It is more like this. I analyzed Romney and Obama. They are different and will do different things. My analysis lead me to two conclusions to keep it short.

1. Either Romney or Obama would be President.

2. Romney has not hint of corruption and what he believes in is much closer to what I believe to be right than Obama.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   20:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#49)

Stone...I assure you I'm not an idiot. There is absolutely nothing in that manifest that Romney doesn't embrace. I pray God shows you that your fixation on killing innocent people in the middle east, your approval of liars and pagans and your worship of the state, are an anathema to him. Cut the TV off and pray for discernment...you need it my friend.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-11-08   20:40:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#30)

You aren't a real American. You just don't get what it is to be an American. You're entitled to your views but your views would never be considered the solution to thinking people with morals. Pete your basically amoral and kind of senile based on what you have been posting today. You getting enough sun?

The hypocrisy of this statement is... stunning.

YOU, stone, pushed mcRomney, because you have no moral core, and merely wanted to "win" at whatever cost. You attacked those who were unwilling to set aside their morals, because such actions remind you that it is YOU who are immoral and unethical.

Like every holy-roller religious zealot, your views are conveniently focused outward, because any self-reflection would reveal that there's nothing in the mirror....

The stench of your hypocrisy permeates every post you make regarding morals, ethics or being "a real American." Being such a spineless little shit, you can only dream about such things as courage, morals and honor... because they're merely abstractions to you, not something you've ever possessed.

Feh.

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   20:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: freedomsnotfree (#51)

Stone...I assure you I'm not an idiot. There is absolutely nothing in that manifest that Romney doesn't embrace. I pray God shows you that your fixation on killing innocent people in the middle east, your approval of liars and pagans and your worship of the state, are an anathema to him. Cut the TV off and pray for discernment...you need it my friend.

I am not saying you are an idiot. I was just using that as an example.

If you want to call Romney a communist. Document it please. I don't consider hima communist. Is he perfect...no. Was he my first choice....no. But I think he had skills that could have helped us. I think he could have helped us get the budget going in the right direction. I think he is an honorable man. I think he was actually the best Republican nominee since Reagan. I know the others sucked real bad.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   20:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Capitalist Eric (#52)

The people who don't vote against Obama give him their consent. Obama won like you wanted. Now live with it toad.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   20:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone (#53)

I think he is an honorable man.

Honorable men DO NOT lie and true Americans believe in a very limited Frederal government that adheres to the Constitution...Romney was neither of these

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-11-08   21:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: freedomsnotfree (#55)

What was it he lied to the American people about again?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A K A Stone (#36)

But Romney is not a murderer. Obama is.

Nothing compared to your 'hero', the war criminal, baby bush.

How many babies and children did HE direct the killing of in the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Hell already has a room set up for him and it is in the same block as Hilter, Stalin, et.al.

You just can't be selective Stone. Murder is murder and jorge was the grand murdered of our time.

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-08   21:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: A K A Stone (#50)

It is more like this. I analyzed Romney and Obama. They are different and will do different things. My analysis lead me to two conclusions to keep it short.

Uh-HUH. Please list all of the underlying assumptions of your so- called "analysis."

Please provide all empirical sources of data, and the exact methodology of this "analysis."

Please provide the hypotheses that you were operating from, as well as the null hypotheses.

And THEN please provide the empirical comparison, results, biases and correlations of this "analysis."

1. Either Romney or Obama would be President.

WOW. No, let me restate that in proper terms: WOW.

Nothing- and I mean nothing- gets by you, does it???

THIS is the conclusion of your analysis- that one of the two corrupt sock- puppets would be elected?

Such dazzling intellect must be rewarded! I recommend you work on a Doctoral degree... from the University of Phoenix (or some other diploma-mill)!

2. Romney has not hint of corruption and what he believes in is much closer to what I believe to be right than Obama.

Given your inability to detect moral and ethical lapses (due, I suspect, to the fact that YOU have no morals or ethics), your judgement of what's "right" is highly suspect.

And the fact that mcRomneystain is on every side of every issue, means he has zero credibility with pretty much everybody, even the majority of dimwitted sheeple... (which means you're actually below most of those sheeple.)

Bottom line: the only thing your "analysis" showed, is the inside of your ass.

No worries, stone... here's a self-help book, just for you:

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   21:10:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: A K A Stone (#44)

You're a child molester.

Fuck you,you insane piece of shit! Why don't you go crawl up yukons ass and just live there?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Brian S (#57)

Nothing compared to your 'hero', the war criminal, baby bush.

How many babies and children did HE direct the killing of in the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Last I checked you voted Bush in 2000.

Last I checked I voted Peroutka in 2004.

Last I checked you support Obama the war criminal.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: sneakypete (#59)

You're a child molester.

Fuck you,you insane piece of shit! Why don't you go crawl up yukons ass and just live there?

I was just demonstrating your debate style. You proclaim something with no evidence and say it is true.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: A K A Stone (#45)

You said Romney was a communist because he wanted to control the globe.

You have the attention span of a gnat,but not as much understanding.

What I said was Romney was a globalist,and globalists were like communists because they want to control the world.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: A K A Stone (#46)

The ones who Fourth in the revolutionary war would be ashaemed to call you a descendant based on what you say about the first amendment and other parts of the constitution they fought for. Just saying.

WHAT do I say about the First Amendment,you brain-damaged cretin?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: A K A Stone (#47)

I said you were senile because you talked about me moving to Kentucky to vote for Rand Paul for President.

YOU were the one that said this,idiot.

You really are a fool.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: sneakypete (#63)

WHAT do I say about the First Amendment,you brain-damaged cretin?

You don't believe in freedom of religion.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:16:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: A K A Stone (#56)

his lies on abortion, gun rights, small government. He would have put his hand the bible and sworn to uphold the Constitution...when in reality, everything he has done shows his disdain for freedom...

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-11-08   21:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: A K A Stone (#54)

The people who don't vote against Obama give him their consent.

The implication is that there was an alternative to o'Bungler.

And there was. I took advantage of that option... by writing in "Ron Paul."

If you are implying that mcRomneystain was an alternative to o'Bungler, than please provide the EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE to back up such claims.

Oh, don't worry, stone... I'm not really gonna' hold your feet to the fire, waiting for you to actually PROVIDE such evidence... and that's mainly because such evidence doesn't exist.

Obama won like you wanted. Now live with it toad.

There were advantages and disadvantages- from a long-term perspective- for either sock-puppet. Overall, though, what I wanted was precluded from happening, because useless fucking cowards like you allow the Kabuki theater to continue.

How heavy are the chains you wear, slave???

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   21:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: A K A Stone (#50)

2. Romney has not hint of corruption and what he believes in is much closer to what I believe to be right than Obama.

How do you know WHAT he believes? Does he still believe the things he believed when the conservatives of the conservative state of Massachusetts voted for him to be their governor?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: sneakypete (#64)

I said you were senile because you talked about me moving to Kentucky to vote for Rand Paul for President.

YOU were the one that said this,idiot.

You really are a fool.

Good thinking,Stone! Who are you going to vote for next time,Hillary Clinton or JEB Bush?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete posted on 2012-11-08 8:41:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #16. To: sneakypete (#15)

Good thinking,Stone! Who are you going to vote for next time,

Rand Paul

A K A Stone posted on 2012-11-08 8:43:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

#21. To: A K A Stone (#16)

Rand Paul

You're moving to Ky?

And if you do move there,what makes you so sure the RNC is not going to run someone against him in the primaries to take his seat?

sneakypete posted on 2012-11-08 16:23:49 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply Edit

YOU REALLY ARE SENILE PETEY

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Capitalist Eric (#52)

NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

I have long believed and promoted the idea that their should be a "None of the Above" check box on each ballot,and anytime "none of the above" got the most votes the parties that ran the other candidates had to dig into their own pockets and pay for another election to pick a candidate.

I can practically guarantee you that we would get better candidates with a policy like that in place.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: A K A Stone (#53)

The ten short term demands of the Communist Manifesto:

1.Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2.A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3.Abolition of all right of inheritance.
4.Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5.Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6.Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7.Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8.Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9.Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.
10.Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form and combination of education with industrial production.

Abcdefg  posted on  2012-11-08   21:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: A K A Stone (#61)

You proclaim something with no evidence and say it is true.

Your hypocrisy knows NO bounds, does it???

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   21:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A K A Stone (#65)

WHAT do I say about the First Amendment,you brain-damaged cretin?

You don't believe in freedom of religion.

I said that? WHEN? If I ever said it you should be able to produce my post.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: freedomsnotfree (#66)

his lies on abortion, gun rights, small government. He would have put his hand the bible and sworn to uphold the Constitution...when in reality, everything he has done shows his disdain for freedom...

He said he changed his mind on abortion. That troubled me. Maybe he was lying. I can't prove it. So I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one. Since he would have no affect on it anyway.

On guns. I disagree with the assault weapons ban. I think it to be unconsittutionaly. I don't agree but I can see how reasonalbe good people might want to put some restrictions on guns because they honestly think that it would be in societies best interest. Romney would have been a first term President. The Republicans were not going to pass any gun control legislation. Furthermore at worse he is a tie with Obama. Now Obama is re elected and going to the UN to push gun control.

He wasn't perfect. He was better than Obama no doubt....NONE!

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:25:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Abcdefg (#71)

Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

Lets start there. Where does Romney advocate that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Abcdefg (#71)

3.Abolition of all right of inheritance.

Lets throw this one out too. Where does he support that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Abcdefg (#71)

2.A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

I never saw where he supported that either.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Abcdefg (#71)

5.Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

He doesn't support that either.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Abcdefg (#71)

6.Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

I've never seen him speak of this. Did he propose it somewhere?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Abcdefg (#71)

7.Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

I must have missed this one. Maybe you can provide me with a link. Please.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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