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Title: Boehner Extends Olive Branch on 'Fiscal Cliff' (tax increases)
Source: CNBC
URL Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/49731550
Published: Nov 7, 2012
Author: Reuters
Post Date: 2012-11-07 17:54:49 by Hondo68
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Keywords: want you to lead, a balanced approach, will include higher taxes
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Comments: 133

House Speaker John Boehner offered Wednesday to pursue a deal with a victorious President Barack Obama that will include higher taxes "under the right conditions" to help reduce the nation's staggering debt and put its finances in order.

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Speaker of the House John Boehner

"Mr. President, this is your moment," Boehner told reporters, speaking about the "fiscal cliff" that will hit in January. "We want you to lead."

Boehner said House Republicans are asking Obama "to make good on a balanced approach" that would including spending cuts and address government social benefit programs.

"Let's find the common ground that has eluded us," Boehner said while congratulating the president on winning a second term. (Read more: Obama Re-elected as Crucial Ohio Goes His Way.)


The Ohio Republican spoke a day after the president's clear re-election victory. He said conditions on higher taxes would include a revamped tax code to make it cleaner and fairer, fewer loopholes and lower rates for all.


The speaker noted that during one-on-one budget talks with the president in the summer of 2011, Obama had "endorsed the idea of tax reform and lower rates, including a top rate of lower than 35 percent," the present top rate.

"We're closer than we think to the critical mass needed legislatively to get tax reform done," he said. (Read more: Alarm on Wall Street Grows as 'Fiscal Cliff' Nears.)

Boehner did not specify what loopholes House Republicans might consider trimming. Nor did he take questions.

His comments were generally along the lines of proposals by vanquished Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney that also were vague on specifics. Still, the speaker's comments signaled a willingness to enter into talks. He suggested Congress could use its upcoming lame-duck session to get the ball moving on such a compromise.

"We can't solve the problem of our fiscal imbalance overnight...This is going to take time," he said.


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#94. To: sneakypete (#73)

"I said that? WHEN? If I ever said it you should be able to produce my post."

Schadenfreude is always Stonie's game.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-08   21:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Brian S (#92)

At least I can admit my folly, you haven't to balls to.

You are being dishonest or your memory isn't that good.

I've said stuff about Bush that I'm glad the secret service didn't come visit me.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:42:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Brian S (#92)

Move, get out...find another place to live that shares your views.

OH...what? There isn't such a place? LOL

Are you saying that I am unique? Thank you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:43:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz (#95)

I've said stuff about Bush that I'm glad the secret service didn't come visit me.

After the illegal slaughter in Iraq, I've had that visit and they loved my tomatoes.

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-08   21:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: A K A Stone (#96)

Are you saying that I am unique? Thank you.

Unique and forever the 'odd man' out.

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-08   21:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Ferret Mike (#90)

Both men do not offer anything more than a false choice given to the voters to pacify them.

The ironic part, is that the pacification of sheeple like stone is so effective, that even after "his" candidate was beaten like a God-damned drum, he continues to insist that mcRomneystain was an electable alternative...

Talk about delusional...

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   21:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#86) (Edited)

WAKE UP Stone, it was all a bad dream... The Romney Transition Team is hard at work saving Mexico Amercia!


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-11-08   21:46:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Capitalist Eric (#99)

The voters lifted their legs to Willard. Stone must have been too busy admiring the exposed penises to notice the urine aspect of the snub involved.

When offered an insane choice, people will be indecisive and chose the asshole they know over the one they don't know well yet.

That is a dynamic of human nature at work that does not support the notion Romney is or ever will be electable.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-08   21:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: A K A Stone (#95)

You are being dishonest or your memory isn't that good.

Seriously, you've gone off the deep end, much as goldi, the Israel-firster fat- bitch, has...

You're making up shit about other people, that should be easy to substantiate (IF they were true), and then look like a complete loon because they're not.

You then act as though you're the ONLY honest person on the forum, when it's obvious that you're the biggest liar here... And yet you have the balls to claim you're a "Christian," and honest, and all that...

If your purpose is to drive everyone off your forum, so they don't have to tolerate your blatant hypocrisy, you're doing a damn fine job of it...

Whatever.

I don't know what your game is, but it's clear that you've lost your moral compass, and any semblance of credibility with regard to much of anything.

Whatever.

I was impressed with your "Galt" article this morning... thought, 'hey, that's COOL, I like it.' But tonight, your emotions have taken over, and your behavior is borderline 'hysterical.'

In real life, I'm not known as one to sugar-coat the truth, because I've neither the time nor patience for emotional sugar-coating of facts... And I'm used to dealing with the consequences of this approach. So if telling you the truth is what gets me booted from here, than I fine with that. At the end of the day, you'll be rimjob-jr., echo-chamber and all. Pfft.

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   21:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Capitalist Eric (#102)

You are being dishonest or your memory isn't that good.

Seriously, you've gone off the deep end, much as goldi, the Israel-firster fat- bitch, has...

You're making up shit about other people,

What did I make up? You don' even know what I was talking about here.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   22:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Capitalist Eric (#102)

You are being dishonest or your memory isn't that good.

Seriously, you've gone off the deep end, much as goldi, the Israel-firster fat- bitch, has...

You're making up shit about other people, that should be easy to substantiate (IF they were true), and then look like a complete loon because they're not.

You then act as though you're the ONLY honest person on the forum, when it's obvious that you're the biggest liar here... And yet you have the balls to claim you're a "Christian," and honest, and all that...

Again you don't know what you are talking about.

It is well documented that I am not for Bush and voted against him in 2004 just like Brian S.

My moral compass is just fine. For the most part anyway.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   22:05:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Capitalist Eric (#102)

I was impressed with your "Galt" article this morning... thought, 'hey, that's COOL,

Thank You.

You misunderstand me. I like things to be accurate. You guys called Romney a communist. He isn't. That is ludicrous. He is a very successful Capitalist. I voted for Romney because he offered my kids a better future with less debt then Obama. You can whine like a broken record that they are the same all you want. But it isn't true. I like accuracy. They may be similar on some things but certainly not all things. Great differences on lots of things. You know that and I know that. So it is you who is lying when you say they are the same. If you want to be honest you should say they are to much alike or something like that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   22:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: hondo68 (#100)

I saw this site Willard had drawn up in a hubris filled notion he could not lose.

The Republicans have a problem in that in terms of popular vote, they have lost five of the last six elections.

Until they learn to offer a real choice that is meaningful and serves the public interest, they are doomed to continue to be a marginalized entity.

The only thing I appreciate about this is it helps show what a joke the popular election of a true leader of the people is in this country. Those in the 'club' run things, and not the simulated leader in the fishbowl called the oval office.

Romney is out of touch and delusional, Obama is strange and an egomaniac.

And neither is meant to be true leaders in any sense of pulling the real strings of power.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-08   22:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: A K A Stone (#103)

What did I make up?

Maybe THIS will refresh your memory.

You don' even know what I was talking about here.

Thanks for proving that you're a lying, disengenuous, IMMORAL HYPOCRITE.

Check-mate.

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   22:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: A K A Stone (#91)

Like the money following the kid.

Who's money?

Abcdefg  posted on  2012-11-08   22:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: A K A Stone (#82) (Edited)

You are fighting too many battles on this thread tonight, so I'll bow out of the discussion.

Abcdefg  posted on  2012-11-08   22:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Capitalist Eric (#107)

Ok you need to quit talking to me that way.

On your first point I looked back up and it was sneakypete that said that. So that doesn't make me a liar but mistaken. But you have said that it would be better of Obama is re elected. Your reason if I am remember correctly was that Romney would have a friendly congress to get things done with.

Your other times calling me a liar are also inaccurate. So watch your mouth. I'm tolerant but not forever.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   22:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Abcdefg (#108)

Like the money following the kid.

Who's money?

Well theoretically it would be best if everyone paid for their own kids education. I did that for years and years and also got taxed for other kids schools.

Society has said that it is in its interest to have kids educated. So in the system we have where there is public education. It is my opinion that it would be better if each student was allotted a sum of money and allowed to choose any school they wanted. The Public one or any private ones available.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   22:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: A K A Stone (#105)

You guys called Romney a communist. He isn't. That is ludicrous. He is a very successful Capitalist.

LOL. What complete shit.

He's a CORPORATIST. Lenin, Hitler or Mussolini... yeah, there were minor differences between them... They were communist, socialist or fascist, respectively.

I like accuracy. They may be similar on some things but certainly not all things.

Yeah, they were.... like.... black and white, on certain aspects....

Oh, WAIT....

LMAO.

So it is you who is lying when you say they are the same. If you want to be honest you should say they are to much alike or something like that.

Hmmm... if you like accuracy as much as you say, than you should be able to find at least one post I made, where I said they were exactly the same on every issue...

Can you DO it??? NO.

Because I have constantly said they were the same in every way that matters.

I, TOO, believe in accuracy.

And I believe that I've caught you in yet another lie...

Not that that's much of a challenge these days, mind you....

[[[[[[[[[[ shaking head in disgust ]]]]]]]]]]]

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   22:19:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Abcdefg (#109)

You are fighting too many battles on this thread tonight, so I'll bow out of the discussion.

Oh but your discussion was the most friendly. Or at least a tie with freedom.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   22:20:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#110)

"Ok you need to quit talking to me that way"

look at ow you talk to an older, honorable man who fought communism in Vietnam.

What a hypocrite. I don't see you walking the walk like he did and does.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-08   22:28:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: A K A Stone (#112)

You guys called Romney a communist. He isn't. That is ludicrous. He is a very successful Capitalist.

LOL. What complete shit.

This is a prime example why the so called 'right' will never again win an election.

I really thought Romney had a shot but these people prevented that.

Just saying...

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-08   22:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Brian S (#115)

I really thought Romney had a shot but these people prevented that.

Romney barely lost.

Elaborate.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   22:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: A K A Stone (#116)

"Romney barely lost."

He's slipped to 48 percent of the popular vote.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_presidential_election_results#Results

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-08   22:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: A K A Stone (#116)

Romney barely lost.

Elaborate.

Obama Will Have 332 Electoral Votes To Romney’s 206

That is all but a 'landslide'...

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-08   22:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: A K A Stone (#116)

Romney barely lost.

He only got beat like a drum. You've got to be joking.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-11-08   22:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Ferret Mike (#117)

I actually thought Romney would win the popular vote yet the President take the electoral vote...

Then 'they' would have something to squeal about...but no.

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-08   22:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Brian S, TLBSHOW (#118)

Obama Will Have 332 Electoral Votes To Romney’s 206

What was TLBSHOW trying to say with his landslide thread?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-11-08   22:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: A K A Stone (#110)

Ok you need to quit talking to me that way. On your first point I looked back up and it was sneakypete that said that. So that doesn't make me a liar but mistaken.

For someone who claims such devotion to accuracy, you've been "mistaken" a great many times about me, and for a very long time... You use every sleazy trick in the book, all while pretending to be "Christian," and a believer of truth.

But you have said that it would be better of Obama is re elected.

ANOTHER MISTAKE. I have made the point many times, that it could easily be argued that it would be better if o'Bungler were elected, because the collapse would be shorter and less drawn-out than it would be under mcRomneystain... and that there is historical basis for that viewpoint, especially when you study Cicero's writings.

That is NOT the same thing as saying I supported o'Bungler, and I defy you to find a SINGLE POST where I've said that. AGAIN, you are "mistaken."

Your reason if I am remember correctly was that Romney would have a friendly congress to get things done with.

ANOTHER MISTAKE.

Your other times calling me a liar are also inaccurate.

ANOTHER MISTAKE.

So watch your mouth. I'm tolerant but not forever.

Or what? You gonna' call ME a child-molester? Rapist? Thief? Murderer?

You dare to tell me how "tolerant" you are, when it is YOU who've been lying your ass off "mistaken" for months???

Here's something for you to chew on, stone... I don't really have the time to lie, push any particular agenda (beyond restoring TRUE liberty to this country), and pimping for any group.

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   22:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Capitalist Eric (#122)

You support Obama.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-09   6:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: A K A Stone (#85) (Edited)

You asked me if I was supporting Hillary.

For PRESIDENT in 2016.

YOU responded with: I said no I support Rand Paul.

You asked if I am moving to Kentucky.

Yes,I did. Rand Paul holds office in Kentucky,and will almost certainly be running for re-election for that office. He has not made the slightest hint that he will be running for President instead.

Case closed you lose.

Yes,the case IS closed,but *I* am not the loser.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-09   7:00:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Ferret Mike (#90)

Both men do not offer anything more than a false choice given to the voters to pacify them.

When it comes to policy,they are the same guys. One is darker and one is more competent and would probably do a better job at destroying what is left of our country.

It was never anything more than a shell game played to keep the yodels distracted,though.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-09   7:03:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Capitalist Eric (#99)

the pacification of sheeple like stone is so effective, that even after "his" candidate was beaten like a God-damned drum, he continues to insist that mcRomneystain was an electable alternative...

If you want to inspire voters to vote for an opponent to a sitting president that you and they don't like,you HAVE to offer then an alternative candidate with different policy viewpoints and goals.

Offering them a pasty-white globalist as an option to the off-white globalist currently holding the office is NOT offering an alternative. Just more of the same wrapped in a different package.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-09   7:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Ferret Mike (#101)

When offered an insane choice, people will be indecisive and chose the asshole they know over the one they don't know well yet.

Well stated.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-09   7:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: A K A Stone (#110)

On your first point I looked back up and it was sneakypete that said that. So that doesn't make me a liar but mistaken.

It makes you look like a liar when you keep repeating it and defending the mistake by calling people stupid for trying to point out you are mistaken.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-09   7:12:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Capitalist Eric, A K A Stone (#112)

You guys called Romney a communist. He isn't. That is ludicrous. He is a very successful Capitalist. LOL. What complete shit.

He's a CORPORATIST.

More correctly,he is a globalist.

A globalist is a fascist,and a fascist is nothing more than a communist that has evolved.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-09   7:14:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: A K A Stone (#116)

Romney barely lost.

He WAS the 1st Place Loser.

I guess you can take pride in that.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-09   7:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: A K A Stone (#123) (Edited)

You support Obama.

I support the dismantling the welfare/warfare system.

I support the dismantling of the American police-state.

I support REAL freedom in America- the freedom to do whatever you want, provided you don't interfere with the rights of others to do what they want.

I support a REAL free market, where prices and production are established via mutual agreement of producers and customers, without interference from the government via insane regulations, taxation or subsidization, in the hope to force market behavior to match what government shit-head bureaucrats think is "best" for the country...

IN ALL OF THESE THINGS, I AM A FIRM BELIEVER. NEITHER O'BUNGLER NOR MCROMNEYSTAIN WILL TOUCH ANY OF THESE ISSUES, SO I SUPPORT NEITHER OF THEM.

If you are too much of brain-dead zombie to get that, then just tell me so, so I can bozo your sorry, incredibly stupid ass, and have done with it.

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-10   16:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Capitalist Eric (#131)

" I support the dismantling the welfare/warfare system.

I support the dismantling of the American police-state.

I support REAL freedom in America- the freedom to do whatever you want, provided you don't interfere with the rights of others to do what they want.

I support a REAL free market, where prices and production are established via mutual agreement of producers and customers, without interference from the government via insane regulations, taxation or subsidization, in the hope to force market behavior to match what government shit-head bureaucrats think is "best" for the country..."

Stone will never agree with you; you are making too much sense here.

He's still whining as he cries over the lose of his Mitt. In fact he'll probably milk this particuar hair shirt for a long time to come.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-10   21:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Capitalist Eric, A K A Stone (#131)

"Bummer of a tattoo..." kept replaying in Mr. Stone's usually quite empty mind after his morning shave reminded him once more what an impulsive ninny he is..

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-10   22:05:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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