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Title: Boehner Extends Olive Branch on 'Fiscal Cliff' (tax increases)
Source: CNBC
URL Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/49731550
Published: Nov 7, 2012
Author: Reuters
Post Date: 2012-11-07 17:54:49 by Hondo68
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Keywords: want you to lead, a balanced approach, will include higher taxes
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House Speaker John Boehner offered Wednesday to pursue a deal with a victorious President Barack Obama that will include higher taxes "under the right conditions" to help reduce the nation's staggering debt and put its finances in order.

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Speaker of the House John Boehner

"Mr. President, this is your moment," Boehner told reporters, speaking about the "fiscal cliff" that will hit in January. "We want you to lead."

Boehner said House Republicans are asking Obama "to make good on a balanced approach" that would including spending cuts and address government social benefit programs.

"Let's find the common ground that has eluded us," Boehner said while congratulating the president on winning a second term. (Read more: Obama Re-elected as Crucial Ohio Goes His Way.)


The Ohio Republican spoke a day after the president's clear re-election victory. He said conditions on higher taxes would include a revamped tax code to make it cleaner and fairer, fewer loopholes and lower rates for all.


The speaker noted that during one-on-one budget talks with the president in the summer of 2011, Obama had "endorsed the idea of tax reform and lower rates, including a top rate of lower than 35 percent," the present top rate.

"We're closer than we think to the critical mass needed legislatively to get tax reform done," he said. (Read more: Alarm on Wall Street Grows as 'Fiscal Cliff' Nears.)

Boehner did not specify what loopholes House Republicans might consider trimming. Nor did he take questions.

His comments were generally along the lines of proposals by vanquished Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney that also were vague on specifics. Still, the speaker's comments signaled a willingness to enter into talks. He suggested Congress could use its upcoming lame-duck session to get the ball moving on such a compromise.

"We can't solve the problem of our fiscal imbalance overnight...This is going to take time," he said.


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#75. To: Abcdefg (#71)

Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

Lets start there. Where does Romney advocate that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Abcdefg (#71)

3.Abolition of all right of inheritance.

Lets throw this one out too. Where does he support that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Abcdefg (#71)

2.A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

I never saw where he supported that either.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Abcdefg (#71)

5.Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

He doesn't support that either.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Abcdefg (#71)

6.Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

I've never seen him speak of this. Did he propose it somewhere?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Abcdefg (#71)

7.Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

I must have missed this one. Maybe you can provide me with a link. Please.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: sneakypete (#70)

I can practically guarantee you that we would get better candidates with a policy like that in place.

I'm sure idiots like stone would complain that we MUST choose between the best of the shit-bags, because they're still ELECTABLE...

(which of course, misses the whole point) LOL.

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   21:28:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Abcdefg (#71)

.Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

Come on he never said or supported this idea.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: A K A Stone (#69)

I said you were senile because you talked about me moving to Kentucky to vote for Rand Paul for President. YOU were the one that said this,idiot.

You really are a fool.

Good thinking,Stone! Who are you going to vote for next time,Hillary Clinton or JEB Bush?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete posted on 2012-11-08 8:41:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #16. To: sneakypete (#15)

Good thinking,Stone! Who are you going to vote for next time,

Rand Paul

A K A Stone posted on 2012-11-08 8:43:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

#21. To: A K A Stone (#16)

Rand Paul

You're moving to Ky?

And if you do move there,what makes you so sure the RNC is not going to run someone against him in the primaries to take his seat?

sneakypete posted on 2012-11-08 16:23:49 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply Edit

YOU REALLY ARE SENILE PETEY

You really need to read all that again.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:30:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Abcdefg (#71)

10.Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form and combination of education with industrial production.

I guess it could be said he is for this one.

Are you against free education for our kids? Pretend the schools are good.

I'm not for factory labor. Unless it is a kid working for his folks.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: sneakypete (#83)

You really need to read all that again.

No I don't.

You asked me if I was supporting Hillary. She isn't running for state office anywhere.

I said no I support Rand Paul.

You asked if I am moving to Kentucky.

Case closed you lose.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#17) (Edited)

"Ok simpleton. Do you know what a communist is? What about Romney is communist? To the left of Obama. Do you smoke crack?"

You seem tense stonie, here, here is a consolation election cake for ya.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-08   21:32:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: A K A Stone (#82) (Edited)

Come on he never said or supported this idea

I am not claiming he did. The subject of Communism came up and I posted the 10 planks of Marx's manifesto.

"Are you against free education for our kids?"

You bet I am. Since when is it free?

Abcdefg  posted on  2012-11-08   21:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Capitalist Eric (#81)

I'm sure idiots like stone would complain that we MUST choose between the best of the shit-bags, because they're still ELECTABLE...

No you can do what you want. You think Obama is to the right of Romney. So you are happy. At least Obama is anti Jew. That is what really matters to you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Abcdefg (#87)

I am not claiming he did. The subject of Communism came up and I posted the 10 planks of Marx's manifesto. How about free, compulsory, government controlled education?

Ok thanks for supplying the list and some common sense. The common sense being you never said he was a communist.

Free public education is addressed in post 84.

I sent my kids to private school until last year when it got to expensive.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Capitalist Eric (#81)

"I'm sure idiots like stone would complain that we MUST choose between the best of the shit-bags, because they're still ELECTABLE..."

Both men do not offer anything more than a false choice given to the voters to pacify them.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-08   21:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Abcdefg (#87)

"Are you against free education for our kids?"

You bet I am. Since when is it free?

I have been in the past. I think it should be done differently then presently. Like the money following the kid.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: A K A Stone (#60) (Edited)

I voted for the bushes at least 10 times in my days (probably more than that) throwing in daddy and jr's governor stint in TX...primaries and all.

At least I can admit my folly, you haven't the balls to.

That said, 'you people' are never going to win another election with your neandrathal mentality.

Move, get out...find another place to live that shares your views.

OH...what? There isn't such a place? LOL

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-08   21:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: A K A Stone (#88)

You think Obama is to the right of Romney.

Please provide a link to where I said that, or just admit that you're a fucking liar. You are such a lying, disengenuous, IMMORAL HYPOCRITE.

So you are happy.

Please provide a link to where I said that, or just admit that you're a fucking liar. You are such a lying, disengenuous, IMMORAL HYPOCRITE.

At least Obama is anti Jew. That is what really matters to you.

Please provide a link to where I said that, or just admit that you're a fucking liar. You are such a lying, disengenuous, IMMORAL HYPOCRITE.

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   21:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: sneakypete (#73)

"I said that? WHEN? If I ever said it you should be able to produce my post."

Schadenfreude is always Stonie's game.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-08   21:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Brian S (#92)

At least I can admit my folly, you haven't to balls to.

You are being dishonest or your memory isn't that good.

I've said stuff about Bush that I'm glad the secret service didn't come visit me.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:42:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Brian S (#92)

Move, get out...find another place to live that shares your views.

OH...what? There isn't such a place? LOL

Are you saying that I am unique? Thank you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:43:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz (#95)

I've said stuff about Bush that I'm glad the secret service didn't come visit me.

After the illegal slaughter in Iraq, I've had that visit and they loved my tomatoes.

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-08   21:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: A K A Stone (#96)

Are you saying that I am unique? Thank you.

Unique and forever the 'odd man' out.

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-08   21:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Ferret Mike (#90)

Both men do not offer anything more than a false choice given to the voters to pacify them.

The ironic part, is that the pacification of sheeple like stone is so effective, that even after "his" candidate was beaten like a God-damned drum, he continues to insist that mcRomneystain was an electable alternative...

Talk about delusional...

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   21:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#86) (Edited)

WAKE UP Stone, it was all a bad dream... The Romney Transition Team is hard at work saving Mexico Amercia!


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-11-08   21:46:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Capitalist Eric (#99)

The voters lifted their legs to Willard. Stone must have been too busy admiring the exposed penises to notice the urine aspect of the snub involved.

When offered an insane choice, people will be indecisive and chose the asshole they know over the one they don't know well yet.

That is a dynamic of human nature at work that does not support the notion Romney is or ever will be electable.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-08   21:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: A K A Stone (#95)

You are being dishonest or your memory isn't that good.

Seriously, you've gone off the deep end, much as goldi, the Israel-firster fat- bitch, has...

You're making up shit about other people, that should be easy to substantiate (IF they were true), and then look like a complete loon because they're not.

You then act as though you're the ONLY honest person on the forum, when it's obvious that you're the biggest liar here... And yet you have the balls to claim you're a "Christian," and honest, and all that...

If your purpose is to drive everyone off your forum, so they don't have to tolerate your blatant hypocrisy, you're doing a damn fine job of it...

Whatever.

I don't know what your game is, but it's clear that you've lost your moral compass, and any semblance of credibility with regard to much of anything.

Whatever.

I was impressed with your "Galt" article this morning... thought, 'hey, that's COOL, I like it.' But tonight, your emotions have taken over, and your behavior is borderline 'hysterical.'

In real life, I'm not known as one to sugar-coat the truth, because I've neither the time nor patience for emotional sugar-coating of facts... And I'm used to dealing with the consequences of this approach. So if telling you the truth is what gets me booted from here, than I fine with that. At the end of the day, you'll be rimjob-jr., echo-chamber and all. Pfft.

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   21:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Capitalist Eric (#102)

You are being dishonest or your memory isn't that good.

Seriously, you've gone off the deep end, much as goldi, the Israel-firster fat- bitch, has...

You're making up shit about other people,

What did I make up? You don' even know what I was talking about here.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   22:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Capitalist Eric (#102)

You are being dishonest or your memory isn't that good.

Seriously, you've gone off the deep end, much as goldi, the Israel-firster fat- bitch, has...

You're making up shit about other people, that should be easy to substantiate (IF they were true), and then look like a complete loon because they're not.

You then act as though you're the ONLY honest person on the forum, when it's obvious that you're the biggest liar here... And yet you have the balls to claim you're a "Christian," and honest, and all that...

Again you don't know what you are talking about.

It is well documented that I am not for Bush and voted against him in 2004 just like Brian S.

My moral compass is just fine. For the most part anyway.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   22:05:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Capitalist Eric (#102)

I was impressed with your "Galt" article this morning... thought, 'hey, that's COOL,

Thank You.

You misunderstand me. I like things to be accurate. You guys called Romney a communist. He isn't. That is ludicrous. He is a very successful Capitalist. I voted for Romney because he offered my kids a better future with less debt then Obama. You can whine like a broken record that they are the same all you want. But it isn't true. I like accuracy. They may be similar on some things but certainly not all things. Great differences on lots of things. You know that and I know that. So it is you who is lying when you say they are the same. If you want to be honest you should say they are to much alike or something like that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   22:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: hondo68 (#100)

I saw this site Willard had drawn up in a hubris filled notion he could not lose.

The Republicans have a problem in that in terms of popular vote, they have lost five of the last six elections.

Until they learn to offer a real choice that is meaningful and serves the public interest, they are doomed to continue to be a marginalized entity.

The only thing I appreciate about this is it helps show what a joke the popular election of a true leader of the people is in this country. Those in the 'club' run things, and not the simulated leader in the fishbowl called the oval office.

Romney is out of touch and delusional, Obama is strange and an egomaniac.

And neither is meant to be true leaders in any sense of pulling the real strings of power.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-08   22:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: A K A Stone (#103)

What did I make up?

Maybe THIS will refresh your memory.

You don' even know what I was talking about here.

Thanks for proving that you're a lying, disengenuous, IMMORAL HYPOCRITE.

Check-mate.

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   22:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: A K A Stone (#91)

Like the money following the kid.

Who's money?

Abcdefg  posted on  2012-11-08   22:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: A K A Stone (#82) (Edited)

You are fighting too many battles on this thread tonight, so I'll bow out of the discussion.

Abcdefg  posted on  2012-11-08   22:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Capitalist Eric (#107)

Ok you need to quit talking to me that way.

On your first point I looked back up and it was sneakypete that said that. So that doesn't make me a liar but mistaken. But you have said that it would be better of Obama is re elected. Your reason if I am remember correctly was that Romney would have a friendly congress to get things done with.

Your other times calling me a liar are also inaccurate. So watch your mouth. I'm tolerant but not forever.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   22:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Abcdefg (#108)

Like the money following the kid.

Who's money?

Well theoretically it would be best if everyone paid for their own kids education. I did that for years and years and also got taxed for other kids schools.

Society has said that it is in its interest to have kids educated. So in the system we have where there is public education. It is my opinion that it would be better if each student was allotted a sum of money and allowed to choose any school they wanted. The Public one or any private ones available.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   22:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: A K A Stone (#105)

You guys called Romney a communist. He isn't. That is ludicrous. He is a very successful Capitalist.

LOL. What complete shit.

He's a CORPORATIST. Lenin, Hitler or Mussolini... yeah, there were minor differences between them... They were communist, socialist or fascist, respectively.

I like accuracy. They may be similar on some things but certainly not all things.

Yeah, they were.... like.... black and white, on certain aspects....

Oh, WAIT....

LMAO.

So it is you who is lying when you say they are the same. If you want to be honest you should say they are to much alike or something like that.

Hmmm... if you like accuracy as much as you say, than you should be able to find at least one post I made, where I said they were exactly the same on every issue...

Can you DO it??? NO.

Because I have constantly said they were the same in every way that matters.

I, TOO, believe in accuracy.

And I believe that I've caught you in yet another lie...

Not that that's much of a challenge these days, mind you....

[[[[[[[[[[ shaking head in disgust ]]]]]]]]]]]

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   22:19:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Abcdefg (#109)

You are fighting too many battles on this thread tonight, so I'll bow out of the discussion.

Oh but your discussion was the most friendly. Or at least a tie with freedom.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   22:20:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#110)

"Ok you need to quit talking to me that way"

look at ow you talk to an older, honorable man who fought communism in Vietnam.

What a hypocrite. I don't see you walking the walk like he did and does.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-08   22:28:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: A K A Stone (#112)

You guys called Romney a communist. He isn't. That is ludicrous. He is a very successful Capitalist.

LOL. What complete shit.

This is a prime example why the so called 'right' will never again win an election.

I really thought Romney had a shot but these people prevented that.

Just saying...

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-08   22:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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