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Title: Forget The Political Sideshow, Focus on The Bigger Battle
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URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/forget- ... ocus-on-the-bigger-battle.html
Published: Aug 16, 2012
Author: Saman Mohammadi
Post Date: 2012-08-16 17:27:50 by Capitalist Eric
Keywords: None
Views: 4742
Comments: 16

The selection of Paul Ryan as Romney’s VP has injected energy into the 2012 presidential race. His radical ideas about how to resolve the budget crisis have attracted rage from both the left and the right, especially among seniors.

A number of senior GOP strategists have criticized Romney’s decision to name Paul Ryan his Vice President because the economic ideas that are associated with him are highly unpopular with the American people. One GOP political strategist said, “This is the day the music died.”

The music that played all throughout the late 20th century up to the present day had the effect of keeping the American people in a state of deep sleep. In this state, the treasonous U.S. ruling class was able to get away with all sorts of criminal activity, including staging the false flag 9/11 events that launched the multi-trillion dollar “War of Terror.”

But the Romney-Ryan ticket is waking people up to the reality that neither of the two political parties have a plan for saving America. Both Obama and Romney want to destroy America and mass murder the American people, the only thing they disagree on is how should the destruction be carried out, and how long it should take.

Obama believes it is better to kill them softly, while Romney and Ryan prefer the option of slash-and-burn looting. So, at the end of the day, there is no real distinction between the two sides.

Historian and author Webster G. Tarpley explained on the Alex Jones show on Tuesday, August 14, that the massive austerity cuts being proposed by both parties will lead to the deaths of millions of Americans. But he added that the Romney-Ryan path will definitely be more painful and brutal, since they are proposing larger cuts to basic social services and government programs.

Ryan’s radical budget has turned off many senior conservatives who find great value in programs like Medicare and Social Security. Without government life support they will die, and the Romney-Ryan duo is okay with that outcome because they are totally indifferent to mass suffering and mass death.

Obama’s program proposals and budget solutions are more moderate so senior conservatives may flock to him this time around rather than the Republican party. Or they may abstain from voting, which would still benefit Obama. But this turn of events is not a good reflection on Obama’s leadership and his vision for America. Obama’s unpopularity as a first-term president in an election year is unusual and shows how much of a weak candidate he is.

If the Republican party was interested in winning this year they could’ve easily defeated Obama. But it seems the political managers that control both parties want to give Obama another term. Many people are saying that the selection of Ryan by Romney’s political handlers was done for the purpose of strengthening Obama in the eyes of the voters and giving him the victory in November.

It certainly doesn’t make sense for a political party to choose a career politician for VP whose radical ideas are accepted by less than 20% of the American people. Gerald Celente argues for this view in his article,“Paul Ryan pick political suicide”:

“In the Spring of 2011 Republican hopefuls were on a political suicide mission. Yes, entitlement excesses had to be addressed, but making that the main focus of their campaigns was a strategy that might have been devised by insidious Democratic infiltrators … .

The Republican final solution was to reduce and/or eliminate “entitlements” – a word that had taken on a pejorative meaning. How dare people who had worked all their lives, acted responsibly and paid their taxes, feel entitled to anything from their government? Health care, elder care … Republicans were running on a “we don’t care” platform.”

The election in November will probably be very close and will go down to the wire, but Obama has already been picked to be the winner. Romney and Ryan are not serious contenders for the White House. They are just a sophomore debating team that is fortunate enough to travel the country and address crowds. It is clear the GOP establishment is taking one for the team in this election season and handing Obama the victory by picking Ryan to be Romney’s Vice President.

II. Forget The Political Sideshow, Focus on The Bigger Battle

Although America is a shallow democracy, the trans-party political managers are still shrewd enough to make the race interesting for the American people. They also want to create the illusion that there is a wide acceptance of Ryan’s radical ideas to balance the budget and improve the American economy, which in truth there is no acceptance whatsoever.

For the American people, the socially important Medicare program is more of a sacred cow than the unnecessary large Pentagon budget, and fraudulent bank bailouts.

Since neither of the two political parties are bold enough to take on the useless military and the criminal private banks, they are becoming irrelevant and will go the way of history. The real battle ahead will be between the financial oligarchs and the captured military versus the American people. The same battle is being fought around the world, in countries as different as England, Greece, and Egypt.

It must be remembered that this is an intellectual and spiritual battle. This is the bigger battle. Elections are meaningless. Republicans and Democrats are dinosaurs. Obama is T-Rex, the last of his kind.

The bigger battle is about central issues like banking and war-making. The era of private banking institutions and standing armies is coming to an end. Their poisonous fruits are criminal wars, needless death, poverty, and mass destruction. Humanity is ready for a new era of peace, prosperity, and liberty.

In his remarkable speech, “Peace, Prosperity, and Liberty,” given nearly ten years ago on September 5, 2002, Dr. Ron Paul said:

“We must prepare for the day when our financial bankruptcy and the failure of our effort at world domination are apparent. The solution to such a crisis can be easily found in our Constitution and in our traditions. But ultimately, the love of liberty can only come from a change in the hearts and minds of the people and with an answered prayer for the blessings of divine intervention.”

Your prayers were answered, Dr. Paul.

In 2012, the American people are awake, and you are an icon of moderation, respect, dedication, patriotism, and love. Your political colleagues are still stuck in the paradigm of war, deception, fraud, and death, but that soulless paradigm is being rejected on a global scale.

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#1. To: Capitalist Eric (#0)

Incoherent nonsense. The guy claims to be a Ron Paul supporter, yet he sounds like a demented leftist lunatic.

Why do you post this crap? Are you crazy too? Apparently so.

Responses to a couple of uniformed, idiotic points:

His [Ryan's] radical ideas about how to resolve the budget crisis

Ryan's ideas are NOT "radical". They are supported by Oregon Democratic Senator Ron Wyden, Clinton OMB Director Alice Rivlin, and Clinton White House Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles. Ryan's budget proposals are rational and reasonable. I really wish that they were actually "radical".

A number of senior GOP strategists have criticized Romney’s decision to name Paul Ryan

The leftist media has claimed unnamed "GOP Strategists" who are unhappy. Who are they? Why are they unhappy? No answer. Any "GOP strategist" who might be pissing and moaning about Ryan is from the old wimpy "go along to get along" wing of the party.

Obama’s program proposals and budget solutions are more moderate so senior conservatives may flock to him this time around rather than the Republican party.

Complete and utter nonsense. Who are these "senior conservatives" who are going to flock to Obama??? No answer.


"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-16   18:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: jwpegler (#1)

Incoherent nonsense. The guy claims to be a Ron Paul supporter, yet he sounds like a demented leftist lunatic.

Disinformation Tactic #4. Use a straw man.

Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

Why do you post this crap? Are you crazy too? Apparently so.

Disinformation Tactic #5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule.

This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left- wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

Ryan's ideas are NOT "radical". They are supported by Oregon Democratic Senator Ron Wyden, Clinton OMB Director Alice Rivlin, and Clinton White House Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles.

Disinformation Tactic #8. Invoke authority.

Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough 'jargon' and 'minutia' to illustrate you are 'one who knows', and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

The leftist media has claimed unnamed "GOP Strategists" who are unhappy. Who are they? Why are they unhappy? No answer. Any "GOP strategist" who might be pissing and moaning about Ryan is from the old wimpy "go along to get along" wing of the party.

Disinformation Tactic #2. Become incredulous and indignant.

Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used to show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit.

Obama’s program proposals and budget solutions are more moderate so senior conservatives may flock to him this time around rather than the Republican party.

Complete and utter nonsense. Who are these "senior conservatives" who are going to flock to Obama??? No answer.

Disinformation Tactic #13. Alice in Wonderland Logic.

Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.

Really, you're going to have to do MUCH better... Come back and talk with the adults, when you can string together coherent sentences without resorting to the Alinsky tactics.

Putz.

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-08-16   18:57:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Capitalist Eric (#2) (Edited)

Disinformation Tactic #4, #5, #N...

Do you have an original thought in your head???

Apparently not.

I've noticed that you post this same nonsense over and over again when you are incapable of responding to answers to your attacks.

Pathetic...


"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-16   19:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jwpegler (#3)

Capitalist Eric: Disinformation Tactic #4, #5, #N...

dummy: Do you have an original thought in your head???

Sure.

OTOH, when you engage in sleazy tactics to divert attention from the thread, I'm gonna' slap you upside your empty skull, for thinking your childish antics actually play...

I've noticed that you post this same nonsense over and over again when you are incapable of responding to answers to your attacks.

I've noticed you revert to disinformation tactics when you cannot refute the points made.

Pathetic...

Yes, you are. I could go much further with my opinions of your cowardice... But I won't. You see what you really are, every time you look in the mirror. A fitting punishment.

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-08-16   19:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Capitalist Eric, jwpegler, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#4) (Edited)

the selection of Ryan by Romney’s political handlers was done for the purpose of strengthening Obama in the eyes of the voters and giving him the victory in November.

The MitTards will do just about anything, to distract discussion away from the fact that they're supporting Obama.

A vote for Mittens, is a vote for Obama. They're looking forward to four more years of whining about "Marxism" and "Black Liberation Theology" while John Boehner and Mitch McConnell rubber stamp the Obama agenda.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-08-16   19:42:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Capitalist Eric (#4) (Edited)

OTOH, when you engage in sleazy tactics to divert attention from the thread

You are the one who has distracted the thread by refusing to respond to the points I made in post #1.

YOU distracted the thread with your litany of unoriginal nonsense, as you usually do.


"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-16   19:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#5)

The MitTards will do just about anything, to distract discussion away from the fact that they're supporting Obama. A vote for Mittens, is a vote for Obama.

I confess, I can't understand how these people can be such willing dupes?

I mean, how many times do they have to get stabbed in the back, before they say "NO MORE"...?

I can certainly understand how a person can be fooled once- or even twice, in the 4-year election cycle... It took me not one, but two elections of me actually paying attention, to realize the whole fucking thing was rigged... (And that was one too many, I admit...)

But the candidates lie EVERY time, betray their "constituents" every time... and the stupid electorate keeps coming back for more of the same....?

Nothing like Tiny Tim saying "please sir, may I have another?"

FEH!!!

How STUPID do you have to be, KNOWING that it's all a lie, and then go back to the voting booth, and keep playing the game, over and over and over.....???

How DELUSIONAL, how mentally deranged must one be, to be so willfully ignorant??????????

I really want to know....

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-08-16   19:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: jwpegler (#6)

You are the one who has distracted the thread by refusing to respond to the points I made in post #1.

When you make a valid point, I will answer it.

I'm still waiting for you to say something that actually has merit, and isn't just some bullshit you threw out there, to see if it would stick.

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-08-16   19:55:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Capitalist Eric (#7)

How STUPID do you have to be, KNOWING that it's all a lie, and then go back to the voting booth, and keep playing the game, over and over and over.....???

You've already told us that you voted in the primary and that you are going to vote in November as well.

Given your belief that the system is "rigged", it makes no sense whatsoever for you to continue to vote. You are the one who is acting irrationally by giving legitimacy to a system you say is "rigged".


"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-17   13:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#5)

A vote for Mittens, is a vote for Obama.

Your statement is completely irrational.

So, tell us your solution. What is your plan for getting rid of Obama?


"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-17   13:33:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: jwpegler, *Ron Paul for President* (#10) (Edited)

What is your plan for getting rid of Obama?

Nominate a candidate that's not an Obama clone, and vote for a candidate that's not Obama/W Mitt.



Jews and Christians Together (Dump Romney)


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-08-17   14:10:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: jwpegler (#9)

Still can't come up with a valid point, eh?

Disinformation Tactic #4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-08-17   14:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: hondo68 (#11)

Nominate a candidate..

That's not a plan. Its a fantasy.

The next President will either be Obama or Romney.

The only way to get rid of Obama is to vote for Romney.

This is called reality.


"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-17   14:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Capitalist Eric (#12)

Still can't come up with a valid point, eh?

Ive asked you specific questions and you are incapable of answering them.

I'll ask again.

If you think elections are rigged, why do you continue to give them legitimacy by voting?


"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-17   14:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: jwpegler (#14) (Edited)

Ive asked you specific questions and you are incapable of answering them. I'll ask again. If you think elections are rigged, why do you continue to give them legitimacy by voting?

The elections are rigged by putting in identical candidates. Thus, the only reasonable response is to not accept the false dichotomy. Some choose to sit on their hands. I happen to take it a step further, and write in the name of an alternative.

But this answer isn't really what you're interested in... You're trying to debate facts with your own unsupported [and grossly ignorant] viewpoint.

This inevitably leads you into disinformation/distraction tactics, and pushing "hypothetical" arguments. In other words, you look desperate and stupid. No real surprise...

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-08-17   15:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Capitalist Eric (#15) (Edited)

The elections are rigged by putting in identical candidates. Thus, the only reasonable response is to not accept the false dichotomy. Some choose to sit on their hands. I happen to take it a step further, and write in the name of an alternative.

What a load of crap.

You continually bellyache about how the system is "rigged".

You've repeated numerous times that the only response is not to play.

Yet, you are still playing.

A vote for anyone is a vote for the system. Given that you believe the system is rigged, you are purposefully voting for a rigged system.

It makes no sense whatsoever.


"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-17   18:53:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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