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Title: Judge Napolitano: First Patriot To Shoot Down A Government Spy Drone Will Be A Hero
Source: Infowars.net
URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/judge-napol ... ment-spy-drone-will-be-a-hero/
Published: May 16, 2012
Author: Steve Watson
Post Date: 2012-05-16 19:09:01 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 3732
Comments: 43

Judge Andrew Napolitano has warned Congress not to act “like potted plants” regarding the increased use of unmanned surveillance drones without warrants over US skies by military, government, and law enforcement agencies.

Echoing the recent comments of his Fox News colleague Charles Krauthammer, Napolitano also said that “The first American patriot that shoots down one of these drones that comes too close to his children in his backyard will be an American hero.”

The federal government is rolling out new rules on the use of the unmanned drones this week, with the Federal Aviation Administration announcing procedures will “streamline” the process through which government agencies, including local law enforcement, receive licenses to operate the aircraft.

Privacy advocates have warned that the FAA has not acted to establish any privacy safeguards whatsoever, and that congress is not holding the agency to account.

A recently uncovered Air Force document also circumvents laws and clears the way for the Pentagon to use drones to monitor the activities of Americans.

The Air Force instruction, dated April 23, admits that the Air Force cannot legally conduct “nonconsensual surveillance” on Americans, but also states that should the drones”incidentally” capture data while conducting other missions, military intelligence has the right to study it to determine whether the subjects are legitimate targets of domestic surveillance.

“The same Congress that let the president bomb Libya is going to let his Air Force spy in our backyards and like potted plants, they’ll look the other way,” Judge Napolitano urged yesterday.

“The Third Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment and the Ninth Amendment were written to guarantee us the right to be left alone … Suddenly the government, silently, from 30,000 feet above is violating those amendments,” he added.

As we reported in February, over 30 prominent watchdog groups have banded together to petition the FAA on the proposed increase in the use of drones in US airspace.

The groups, including The American Civil Liberties Union, The Electronic Privacy Information Center, and The Bill of Rights Defense Committee, submitted a petition demanding that the FAA hold a rulemaking session to consider the privacy and safety threats.

Congress recently passed legislation paving the way for what the FAA predicts will be somewhere in the region of 30,000 drones in operation in US skies by 2020.

The ACLU noted that the FAA’s legislation “would push the nation willy-nilly toward an era of aerial surveillance without any steps to protect the traditional privacy that Americans have always enjoyed and expected.”

In addition to privacy concerns, the groups warned that the ability to link facial recognition technology to surveillance drones and patch the information through to active government databases would “increase the First Amendment risks for would be political dissidents.” Subscribe to *Jack-Booted Thugs*

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

He/she will also be imprisoned and financially ruined.

Still, they would make good targets. Traffic cameras do too.

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We The People  posted on  2012-05-16   19:38:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: We The People (#1)

What do you think...? Birdshot or buck? 9mm?

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-16   19:52:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Capitalist Eric (#2)

I've probably said too much already. ;o)

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We The People  posted on  2012-05-16   20:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

Air Force cannot legally conduct “nonconsensual surveillance” on Americans, but also states that should the drones”incidentally” capture data while conducting other missions

and so exactly what "conducting other missions" over stateside territory does the USAF (under the "command" of your oracle) have any history of validity?

allah's donkey's piss be upon you for your "jackboot thug" crap.

you brownshirt totalitarian leftists ARE the jack boots we will be engaging.

(posting anything TO Brain Shit is pointless....rather posting derisively AT him makes sense)

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-05-16   22:53:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S, Ferret Mike (#0)

The ACLU noted that the FAA’s legislation “would push the nation willy-nilly toward an era of aerial surveillance without any steps to protect the traditional privacy that Americans have always enjoyed and expected.”

Not exactly the same scale as the Judge, but I got a kick out of this story some time ago about pigeon hunters swift disposal of a nosey drone...

http://gizmodo.com/5886013/hunters-shoot-animal-rights-drone-out-of-the-sky

So, Mike, don't go climbing into the trees anymore. The cutters will put up a little drone and spray you with skunk juice or something. BTW, the tree you guys were trying to save several years ago in a downtown park? How did that end?

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-17   14:51:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: harrowup (#5) (Edited)

We saved the trees in the Owens Rose Garden they were planning to cut dow to pant clones to the iconic 160 year old Tartarian cherry tree there.

The one in front of the Sheldon-McMurphy house we didn't save. You could mean either one of those actions, but most of any sitting I've done in recent years are in forest tree-sits. And I'm 58, I do more training on climbing and affiliated skills involved in inhabiting a tree-sit and staying there safely.

I'm a planner and and instigator, which is actually much more pleasant then the line work of this endeavor. ;-)

During Red Cloud Thunder where we saved old growth and older trees at the Lois and Clark timber sales, we heard they were training at McCord AFB/Ft. Lewis, WA to possibly use utility helicopters to insert military or USFS 'Supper Freddies' into the tree sits we had there.

We put long well marked poles on the trees that were high enough to be in the hover zone of a helicopter doing a high performance hover set up to off load personnel.

We have seen drones out there already this year. They are very high altitude and hard to detect. Fortunately, when one is in a tree with little else to do, the detect5ion task is far easier.

Our response two this new element of surveillance is going to be evolved just as any new adaptation to their operational doctrine and tactics is.

We are concerned about it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-17   17:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

I'm a planner and an instigator

Yep.

NOT something to be proud of...

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-17   17:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike, harrowup, ALL (#6)

We put long well marked poles on the trees that were high enough to be in the hover zone of a helicopter doing a high performance hover set up to off load personnel.

You vile piece of shit.

You put HUMAN life at risk for a FUCKING tree.

You are the same cunts who used to SPIKE trees.

One of my best friends lost an eye because of you cunts, he was LUCKY that he was not KILLED.

YOU and YOUR ilk have alot to PAY for bitch, and you WILL.

Then you FUCKING BRAG about it?

You really are a pitiful worthless little cunt.

CONTEMPT

Spit ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-17   17:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Mad Dog, *Extended Clip Progressives* (#8)

You are the same cunts who used to SPIKE trees.

One of my best friends lost an eye because of you cunts, he was LUCKY that he was not KILLED.

They also set up hazards on off road events to cause injury and death, and pass out fake maps hoping that you'll get lost in the desert and die of thirst. The greenies are a death cult anyway, they hate humans because they're "destroying the planet". Psycho's!


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-05-17   17:45:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#9)

They also set up hazards on off road events to cause injury and death, and pass out fake maps hoping that you'll get lost in the desert and die of thirst. The greenies are a death cult anyway, they hate humans because they're "destroying the planet". Psycho's!

You sure got that right Bro.

IMO they a F'ing INSANE.

I met Dave Foreman a co-founder of "Earth FIRST!" who I asked a very simple question, that I already knew how he would answer.

I asked him, if he could save a human baby of any race or sex, OR the last animal of an otherwise extinct animal; which would he save?

Without pause, he answered, "the animal", (just as I knew he would).

Then his handlers ran him off away from me.

These people are animal WORSHIPPERS, they HATE HUMANITY.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-17   20:34:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Mad Dog, Harrowup (#8)

Note I said well marked poles. When they were testing that particular mofdel of helicopter, the UH-60 Blackhawk, they went up and down all four rotorblades and fired 20 MM rounds into them and took off and flew with the damage.

The Blackhawk is actually stronger, more powerful and has twice the rotor blades of the UH-1H Huey like the one I crewed in the military. Even if the poles had been steel (they weren't) or the rotors hit small fir branches growing from the 500-600 year old trees we were in, the craft would not be damaged.

As for spiking, setting fires or any other Earth Liberation Front stuff goes, I am way against it.

I actually worked in the woods many years planting trees, spraying big game repelant, fire fighting, doing pre-commercial thinning, and many other things. I would never put people who wood blue collar jobs in the woods at risk of injury.

The pilots would of seen the red and orange poles with the flags on the ends, and if they hit them, the poles just would of broke.

We trusted the fact that they did not know the composition of the poles as being enough of a deterrent to keep an extraction team away from us.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-17   20:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Mad Dog (#10)

Steve, only someone wth a bad case of the dumb-ass factor would post a sneer like that.

We would not want the birds to crash and only encouraged them to stay away with the employment of a well displayed wild card like these obstacles.

If we did anything to cash the utility helicopter, it would put us sitters and ground crews in danger too.

I mean, one does not make a helicopter hovering above you crash if you can possibly help it. In fact, it was safer for everyone if it was encouraged to stay away.

Sometimes when I think I have an idea of the depth of your profound ignorance, you show me it's deeper and broader then I had imagined.

Thanks for sharing, buttercup.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-17   21:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike, Mad Dog (#12)

As for spiking, setting fires or any other Earth Liberation Front stuff goes, I am way against it.

I know you've never come close to ELF and I'm sorry to hear about that one tree that went down...for a TIF?

Mad Dog, please take it easy on Mike. He is one of the good guys, like us, just different priorities.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-17   22:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: harrowup, Mad Dog, etc. and yukon (#13)

Mad Dog, please take it easy on Mike.

Are You out of your friggin' mind agreeing with the well-known cabal yukon/Mad Dog duet as they danced together on the Internet? Are you REALLY a fucking GOAT HERDER?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-05-17   23:30:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: harrowup (#13) (Edited)

Thanks Hawk. The Sheldon McMurphy Johnson House is a Queen Ann's lace Victorian house built by Dr. Sheldon in 1888 to replace the house disgruntled workers had burned down. It is the City of Eugene's only museum.

They released a notice to cut the healthy tree not in the way of anything to "improve the view shed."

It was an ugly confrontation between the team they hired to harass me and get the tree dead. But that's becaus ethe house is more then a museum. The place is home of a historic association controlled by old money rich in Eugene and was the location only sit I did involving a firearm and under the table threats by the powers that be here in Eugene. They wouldn't ID the cutter team they hired, but then I IDed them as Eugene Cops who were allegedly not on duty at the time.

People like the ones who felt I was stepping on their toes are used to getting their way. And I'm sure that even to this day they don't like me very much. So it goes.

I ended the sit the day of the confrontation because no one's life; my ground crew and I or those aligned with the SMJ House Association were worth being put in jeopardy over a deciduous tree who's only crime was to be blocking a small part of the view of the house which is next to Skinner's Butte downtown.

Over the course of actions I did concerning city trees I developed a working relationship with Mark Snider, head of Urban Forestry in Eugene, and our association supporting protection of street trees and him have a good working relationship.

On the big picture I feel i won as we now cut concrete and put in street trees where none have been before and we monitor for cutting violations and let mark know about them.

Good non-violent civil disobedience is primarily about communication and dialog. This has been established, and I helped change policies on street trees, and we have built a dialog between citizens concerned about this issue and those in the city who are responsible for them.

It isn't a perfect relationship and nobody gets everything they wanted out of it, but that is often how it works in a squabble like this.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-18   5:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Mad Dog (#10)

These people are animal WORSHIPPERS, they HATE HUMANITY.

If Obama was drowning in one direction. And a cockroach was drowning in the other direction. I would save the cockroach.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-18   6:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ferret Mike (#15)

Good non-violent civil disobedience is primarily about communication and dialog. This has been established, and I helped change policies on street trees, and we have built a dialog between citizens concerned about this issue and those in the city who are responsible for them.

As you know in my radical youth I was arrested several times going against the grain, always making friends with those with whom I was incarcerated. That was one reason I joined the ACLU.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-18   10:57:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ferret Mike, Harrowup (#11)

Note I said well marked poles. When they were testing that particular mofdel of helicopter, the UH-60 Blackhawk, they went up and down all four rotorblades and fired 20 MM rounds into them and took off and flew with the damage.

The Blackhawk is actually stronger, more powerful and has twice the rotor blades of the UH-1H Huey like the one I crewed in the military. Even if the poles had been steel (they weren't) or the rotors hit small fir branches growing from the 500-600 year old trees we were in, the craft would not be damaged.

As for spiking, setting fires or any other Earth Liberation Front stuff goes, I am way against it.

I actually worked in the woods many years planting trees, spraying big game repelant, fire fighting, doing pre-commercial thinning, and many other things. I would never put people who wood blue collar jobs in the woods at risk of injury.

The pilots would of seen the red and orange poles with the flags on the ends, and if they hit them, the poles just would of broke.

We trusted the fact that they did not know the composition of the poles as being enough of a deterrent to keep an extraction team away from us.

Listen up you slimy piece of shit, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO ACCEPTABLE EXCUSE FOR PUTTING HUMAN LIFE AND LIMB AT RISK FOR A FUCKING TREE.

Talk all you want you slimy piece of shit, NOTHING that you can say will EVER justify such crimes.

PISS OFF cornflake gurl.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-18   12:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

Steve, only someone wth a bad case of the dumb-ass factor would post a sneer like that.

We would not want the birds to crash and only encouraged them to stay away with the employment of a well displayed wild card like these obstacles.

If we did anything to cash the utility helicopter, it would put us sitters and ground crews in danger too.

I mean, one does not make a helicopter hovering above you crash if you can possibly help it. In fact, it was safer for everyone if it was encouraged to stay away.

Sometimes when I think I have an idea of the depth of your profound ignorance, you show me it's deeper and broader then I had imagined.

Thanks for sharing, buttercup.

Listen up you slimy piece of shit, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO ACCEPTABLE EXCUSE FOR PUTTING HUMAN LIFE AND LIMB AT RISK FOR A FUCKING TREE.

Listen up you slimy piece of shit, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO ACCEPTABLE EXCUSE FOR PUTTING HUMAN LIFE AND LIMB AT RISK FOR A FUCKING TREE.

Listen up you slimy piece of shit, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO ACCEPTABLE EXCUSE FOR PUTTING HUMAN LIFE AND LIMB AT RISK FOR A FUCKING TREE.

Listen up you slimy piece of shit, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO ACCEPTABLE EXCUSE FOR PUTTING HUMAN LIFE AND LIMB AT RISK FOR A FUCKING TREE.

Talk all you want you slimy piece of shit, NOTHING that you can say will EVER justify such crimes.

PISS OFF cornflake gurl.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-18   13:01:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: harrowup (#13)

As for spiking, setting fires or any other Earth Liberation Front stuff goes, I am way against it.

I know you've never come close to ELF and I'm sorry to hear about that one tree that went down...for a TIF?

Mad Dog, please take it easy on Mike. He is one of the good guys, like us, just different priorities.

BULLSHIT.

These eco-SCUMBAGS have "the monkey wrench gang" as HEROS and instructors.

I KNOW these arrogant SCUM.

I was there when they began. I KNOW how they operate from experience.

I saw what they DID as opposed to what they said that they did.

I have worked on equipment that they sabotaged.

I have friends who have been physically HURT almost KILLED by their SABOTAGE.

I have friends who lost EVERYTHING because of the eco-SCUM sabotaging their equipment and being unable to operate a small custom mill at ANY margin let alone a PROFIT.

I've seen it over, and over, and over, these eco-SCUM crush the SMALL operators and those who work for them. These eco-SCUM don't hurt the BIG outfits, they KILL the small and medium sized operations.

THEY PUT NORMAL WORKING AMERICAN'S LIVES AT RISK FOR THEIR "god" "gaia".

They TALK shit but that doesn't give my partner back his FUCKING EYE.

cornflake gurl denies ever doing spiking but he supports those who do these acts as a matter of course.

He is the lowest of all life forms in my opinion he is a COWARD, a LIAR and absolute libTURD SCUM who would KILL US ALL IF he felt that it would help his agenda of the moment.

cornflake GURL and I have NOTHING in common. He is OUR, (AMERICA'S), enemy.

He supports the TYRANTS who would be OUR masters.

He is low born base SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-18   13:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#16)

These people are animal WORSHIPPERS, they HATE HUMANITY.

If Obama was drowning in one direction. And a cockroach was drowning in the other direction. I would save the cockroach.

You see Stone I understand that a basically decent and good person such as you are would actually save the human even if it was the messiah "king".

But I sure do enjoy and agree with your hyperbole.

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-18   13:20:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: harrowup (#17)

The ACLU does an important job protecting constitutional rights even if the groups who's rights are being violated is unpopular. It's not supposed to be about rights only for those in favor with the group currently in vogue or power.

I have always been a strong supporter of that group.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-18   13:32:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Ferret Mike (#15)

It was an ugly confrontation between the team they hired to harass me and get the tree dead.

If it wasn't YOUR property or YOUR tree, you had no business there.

some text

We The People  posted on  2012-05-18   13:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Mad Dog (#21)

"You see Stone I understand that a basically decent and good person such as you are would actually save the human even if it was the messiah "king"."

He's an egotistical sociopath. You on the other hand are just egotistical to the point you are incapable of communication. Is that what you are saying Steve?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-18   13:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: We The People (#23)

As a matter of fact, all these trees but one were on public property. And the one that wasn't, I just climbed to banner for a demonstration against trees cut on a site that should of been left alone for a demonstration against the cutting the next day.

Of course the trees on Pacific Lumber land involved a com;any that was taken in a hostile buyout by Charles Hurwitz and Maxxon that replaced management of the once family owned company gutting the only sustained yeild plan that really worked with a gut the standing timber and run with the capital multinational corporation.

I was pruod to be involved in the North Coast Timber wars, but the trees we talk about in Oregon I sat in to prevent their cutting directly were not private property.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-18   13:44:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#24)

Is that what you are saying Steve?

I understand that a F'ing LYING SCUM sucking piece of shit such as you isn't smart enough to understand basic English so let me put it this way cornflake gurl ...

In peacetime, as a civilian, I have NEVER SABOTAGED or DESTROYED ANYBODY'S ANYTHING, FOR ANY REASON; you FOUL PIECE OF SHIT.

I have NEVER HARMED INNOCENT WORKING AMERICANS FOR ANY REASON YOU VILE PIECE OF SHIT.

Those who have done this need to go to PRISON for ALL of the time that they have EARNED.

What I'm saying cornflake gurl is, PISS OFF you foul LYING EVIL SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-18   14:05:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Mad Dog (#20)

"I have friends who lost EVERYTHING because of the eco-SCUM sabotaging their equipment and being unable to operate a small custom mill at ANY margin let alone a PROFIT."

And I have had a friend leave the realm of non-violent civil disobedience and torch a lot because it contained SUVs and got caught.

Jeff Luers went to prison for arson and I spoke out against his property crimes and did not work to help get him released early. He is out and going to college and though as a fellow Occupy Eugene activist we work together cordially, we are no longer friends because I withheld my support as I do in regards to anyone in ELF.

How do you feel about David Chain who had a logger drop a tree on him at a protest on an active logging operation and killed him? The system refused to prosecute the murderer because of the size and political pull of Pacific lumber.

How do you feel about arrows and bullets sent our way in various logging protests, do you support the frustrated and murderous minority that would just lynch people protesting the illegal and amoral gutting of our forests? Do you like lynchings to achieve a political end?

You talk about spiking, that is contrary to the philosophy of non-violent protest and polarizes the issue and shuts down dialog on the issue.

The point we make in doing non-violent protest is to elevate the level of public consciousness on an issue to start a public dialog on it. Spiking maims or kills blue collar workers, alienates the public and shuts dialog down.

My group, the Cascadia Forest Defenders (CFD) has been around for decades and thrives because we do not do property damage or endanger human lives. ELF on the other hand has hurt the issue and they have accomplished nothing.

We have a long standing policy of zero tolerance for ecotage or vandalism of property belonging to anyone.

I own two Husqvarna saws I have used to cut fire line as the sawyer on the line crews I was on. I also used them to do pre-commercial thinning on 'immature' tracts of densely packed very young trees.

I refused to work on logging contracts even though I could of made good money at these jobs. But as a reforestation worker/wildland firefighter, I know my target as a non-violent activist doing civil disobedience is management, not blue collar workers. There is no way at all I would ever do anything that would injure or kill doing sweat work in the woods or anywhere else.

I hope your friend's saboteurs eventually get caught and punished. I do not condone working the issue in a way like that. It endangers human life and hurts the point of the issue which is to increase dialog and communication.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-18   14:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Mad Dog (#26) (Edited)

"In peacetime, as a civilian, I have NEVER SABOTAGED or DESTROYED ANYBODY'S ANYTHING, FOR ANY REASON; you FOUL PIECE OF SHIT.

I have NEVER HARMED INNOCENT WORKING AMERICANS FOR ANY REASON YOU VILE PIECE OF SHIT.

Those who have done this need to go to PRISON for ALL of the time that they have EARNED."

I haven't either, and I agree with you here. Heh, except for your name calling designed to try to invoke an emotional response from me.

One thing about live, real time activism; I have dealt with worse from far more formidable people then what I get from you on line from a great distance. At best your name calling and Burma Shave sign style posts just amuse me when you try to make it personal; nothing more.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-18   14:15:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Mad Dog (#26) (Edited)

"PISS OFF you foul LYING EVIL SCUM."

Many whom we have been a thorn in the side of hate people like me and I have been operating at a higher profile locally then most. If I had been involved in ecotage and ELF work, I would of first been alienated from my brethren who would of been the first to spot what I was doing.

Then I would of very likely been caught and imprisoned, as the time, money, and personnel law enforcement and others have put into the interdiction of ELF members has been epically large.

However, my reputation locally is just fine, even with many of those we opposed. There is no merit at all to your typical diatribe.

Website that has pictures and history of the Red Cloud Thunder action at the Clark Timber Sale

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-18   14:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Ferret Mike (#27)

.

I understand that a F'ing LYING SCUM sucking piece of shit such as you isn't smart enough to understand basic English so let me put it this way cornflake gurl ...

In peacetime, as a civilian, I have NEVER SABOTAGED or DESTROYED ANYBODY'S ANYTHING, FOR ANY REASON; you FOUL PIECE OF SHIT.

I have NEVER HARMED INNOCENT WORKING AMERICANS FOR ANY REASON YOU VILE PIECE OF SHIT.

Those who have done this need to go to PRISON for ALL of the time that they have EARNED.

YOU SUPPORT THESE PEOPLE YOU VILE LYING PIECE OF SHIT.

What I'm saying cornflake gurl is, PISS OFF you foul LYING EVIL SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-18   16:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ferret Mike (#28)

..

I understand that a F'ing LYING SCUM sucking piece of shit such as you isn't smart enough to understand basic English so let me put it this way cornflake gurl ...

In peacetime, as a civilian, I have NEVER SABOTAGED or DESTROYED ANYBODY'S ANYTHING, FOR ANY REASON; you FOUL PIECE OF SHIT.

I have NEVER HARMED INNOCENT WORKING AMERICANS FOR ANY REASON YOU VILE PIECE OF SHIT.

Those who have done this need to go to PRISON for ALL of the time that they have EARNED.

YOU SUPPORT THESE PEOPLE YOU VILE LYING PIECE OF SHIT.

What I'm saying cornflake gurl is, PISS OFF you foul LYING EVIL SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-18   16:18:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ferret Mike (#29)

...

I understand that a F'ing LYING SCUM sucking piece of shit such as you isn't smart enough to understand basic English so let me put it this way cornflake gurl ...

In peacetime, as a civilian, I have NEVER SABOTAGED or DESTROYED ANYBODY'S ANYTHING, FOR ANY REASON; you FOUL PIECE OF SHIT.

I have NEVER HARMED INNOCENT WORKING AMERICANS FOR ANY REASON YOU VILE PIECE OF SHIT.

Those who have done this need to go to PRISON for ALL of the time that they have EARNED.

YOU SUPPORT THESE PEOPLE YOU VILE LYING PIECE OF SHIT.

What I'm saying cornflake gurl is, PISS OFF you foul LYING EVIL SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-18   16:19:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Mad Dog (#26) (Edited)

With your stonewalling and spamming you ironically are ethically closer to Earth liberation Front people in mindset then you consciously realize.

So I am amused by your invective and intolerance to any communication process unless you approve all participants. You clearly demonstrate the mindset I hate in the ELFers. Thanks.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-18   17:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ferret Mike (#33)

....

I understand that a F'ing LYING SCUM sucking piece of shit such as you isn't smart enough to understand basic English so let me put it this way cornflake gurl ...

YOU SUPPORT, (IN DEED AND IN MATERIAL WAYS YOU MEALY MOUTHED LYING BITCH), THESE "PEOPLE" YOU VILE LYING PIECE OF SHIT.

What I'm saying to YOU cornflake gurl is, YOU ARE THESE PEOPLE, so ....................................................................... PISS OFF YOU FOUL LYING EVIL SCUM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-18   18:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Ferret Mike, Mad Dog (#33) (Edited)

With your stonewalling and spamming you ironically are ethically closer to Earth liberation Front people in mindset then you consciously realize.

So I am amused by your invective and intolerance to any communication process unless you approve all participants.

WOW, I'm impressed! Not bad for a janitor. What, did you spend some time between scrubbing toilets, to look all those words up on your I- phone?

Now, get back to work, lackey.

EDIT: BTW, MD, my constantly reminding him of the difference between his high- minded idealism and the menial reality of his life, along with constantly rehashing how he is a washed-out ground-pounder (helicopter mech, who 'knew' spec-op guys, is an expert shot, implying he's a veritable Rambo-meets-Dr. Schweitzer kinda' guy) is what finally got me put on HIS bozo list...

I think that, and constantly posting his ugly mug next to Lennie from the Laverne and Shirley show and laughing at him...

8^)

He puts on 'airs,' but it's because he knows his life is basically dog-shit that someone stepped in...

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-18   18:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Capitalist Eric (#35)

With your stonewalling and spamming you ironically are ethically closer to Earth liberation Front people in mindset then you consciously realize. So I am amused by your invective and intolerance to any communication process unless you approve all participants.

WOW, I'm impressed! Not bad for a janitor. What, did you spend some time between scrubbing toilets, to look all those words up on your I- phone?

Now, get back to work, lackey.

EDIT: BTW, MD, my constantly reminding him of the difference between his high- minded idealism and the menial reality of his life, along with constantly rehashing how he is a washed-out ground-pounder (helicopter mech, who 'knew' spec-op guys, is an expert shot, implying he's a veritable Rambo-meets-Dr. Schweitzer kinda' guy) is what finally got me put on HIS bozo list...

I think that, and constantly posting his ugly mug next to Lennie from the Laverne and Shirley show and laughing at him...

8^)

He puts on 'airs,' but it's because he knows his life is basically dog-shit that someone stepped in...

The boy is certainly a legend in his own "mind".

He meets all eco-NAZI specs.

He is a despicable little self admitted LYING piece of shit.

I should be so lucky that he puts me on ignore.

The despicable little piece of LYING shit.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-18   19:23:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Mad Dog (#36)

The boy is certainly a legend in his own "mind".

Well, he actually has some kind press from both sides, but one thing he never did was work in concert with the ELF types, Dog.

I've known Mike for going on 15 years and every one of his descriptions of how he protects trees is confirmed by contemporary news reports.

He really is one of the feww good guys.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-18   19:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#16)

Obama has not done anything that almost any other Democrat would do in the same situation. So what you are really saying is that if a Democrat was drowning you would save the cockroach.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-18   20:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: harrowup (#37)

Respectfully.

We'll just have agree to disagree on this matter.

OH well, outside of this site he doesn't even exist as far as I'm concerned anyway.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-18   20:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Mad Dog (#36)

"The boy is certainly a legend in his own "mind". "

Harrowup is correct, I used to post the stories complete with links. They are still available at the Register Guard in Eugene, Oregon. A fee would give you a download or hard copy of many articles about my actions over the years.

I've been involved with many things and even ran for city council. Oh yes, the search would be for Michael J. McCarthy. They have several nice pictures from many of the articles. I'm not a "legend in my own mind," but I am well known locally.

I used to drink coffee and socialize with Blackie from Free Republic while he was around here in Eugene. Lazamataz of Free Republic is also a good friend of mine.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-18   22:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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