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Title: Paul supporters make mark at Maine GOP convention
Source: FOXNEWS: the voice of the GOP
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201 ... -mark-at-maine-gop-convention/
Published: May 6, 2012
Author: staff
Post Date: 2012-05-06 10:22:01 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 24657
Comments: 52

AUGUSTA, Maine – Ron Paul's army of supporters in Maine flexed their muscle Saturday as they elected their candidate for chairman of the state Republican convention, a first step toward taking over key party committees and giving the Texas congressman a voice at this summer's national convention.

"I think it shows that our numbers are here," Aaron Quinn, a 28-year-old Paul supporter from Brunswick, said after the close chairmanship vote.

Paul supporter Brent Tweed, a state committee member from York County, was elected chairman with 1,118 delegates' votes, just four more votes than the mainstream candidate, Charles Cragin, a one-time gubernatorial candidate. A Paul supporter was also narrowly elected secretary.

The votes were largely symbolic but important because they show the level of support at the crowded convention for the libertarian-leaning Paul. His supporters' real goals were to elect majorities on Republican county, state and national committees -- and elect a majority of the state's delegates to this summer's GOP national convention in Tampa, Fla.

Delivering 13 of Maine's 24 delegates to Paul would ensure he gets a chance to address the convention, said Matthew McDonald of Belfast, a Paul-supporting delegate.

"That's why Maine today is really, really important," McDonald said.

Nevada Republicans, who were holding their convention Saturday, also expected a strong Paul showing.

"I think it's a democratic process with a small D," Cragin said. "I just hope this enthusiasm continues with some longevity after Tampa."

Votes for a party platform, national delegates and national committee members were also scheduled for Saturday.

Paul supporters said they had no objections to the platform, which included calls for fiscal prudence and no new taxes, strong local and weak national governments, making English the official language of Maine, right to work and voter ID law, and other items.

Two years ago, tea party activists who showed up in force at the convention forced changes that left their mark on the platform.

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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

The votes were largely symbolic but important because they show the level of support at the crowded convention for the libertarian-leaning Paul.

For all you neo's out there... if you do not have those 'libertarian leanings', you are not a conservative.

This has been a Public Service announcement.

We The People  posted on  2012-05-06   10:30:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: We The People (#1)

For all you neo's out there... if you do not have those 'libertarian leanings', you are not a conservative.

Perhaps if you described or otherwise identified what those "libertarian leanings" are we'd have a more useful yardstick.

Nancy Pelosi has "libertarian leanings", but I doubt you'd agree she's a conservative.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-05-06   11:06:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Thunderbird (#3) (Edited)

Perhaps if you described or otherwise identified what those "libertarian leanings" are we'd have a more useful yardstick.

Sure! :o) I'd love to!

Well, we can first take a look at the Bill of Rights, or, the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution as one of, and arguably the most important of, our guidelines.

There can be no doubt that the BOR has an immense libertarian leaning.

And if one were to really stop and think about it, conservatism itself is deeply dependent, fundamentally, to libertarian leanings. Being fiscally conservative with the peoples' money stems from the basic and rudimentary libertarian belief that a man owns the fruits of his own labor.

Today's 'social conservatism' is actually not conservatism at all, but an ideology from the authoritarian left, adopted by the right, (just like the leftist foreign policy of intervention has been adopted by the right) and coming from the belief that government can and should regulate what government considers the moral affairs of its citizens. This even leads to a bigger and more powerful central government which is polar opposite of conservatism.

In true social conservatism, government has no business intervening in the moral affairs of its citizens. As long as one is not violating the rights of others, government has no constitutional authority.

Then there is also foreign policy conservatism or nonintervention, which also stems from the basic libertarian belief against coercion. Liz Cheney, even from her senior thesis, "The Evolution of Presidential War Powers" has proven that she, like her father, prefers a unitary executive, big government and the leftist approach of intervention in the foreign affairs of other countries, in 'making the world safe for democracy', which is a leftist doctrine.

Nancy Pelosi has "libertarian leanings", but I doubt you'd agree she's a conservative.

Nancy Pelosi has absolutely no libertarian leanings. She may hold a couple views in common with the Big L, Libertarian Party, but her reasoning to reach those conclusions are polar opposite of conservative thought.

EDIT: Sorry for the edit, but these are a few basic points concerning the most obvious issues. We can go even further in depth if you'd like.

We The People  posted on  2012-05-06   11:45:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: We The People (#5)

Excellent response!

SJN  posted on  2012-05-06   19:13:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SJN (#9)

Thank you.

;o)

We The People  posted on  2012-05-06   19:20:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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