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Title: Us Should Return Stolen Land To Indian Tribes, Says United Nations
Source: GUARDIAN UK
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/201 ... s-stolen-land-indian-tribes-un
Published: May 4, 2012
Author: GUARDIAN UK
Post Date: 2012-05-04 20:03:22 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 29063
Comments: 86

A United Nations investigator probing discrimination against Native Americans has called on the US government to return some of the land stolen from Indian tribes as a step toward combatting continuing and systemic racial discrimination.

James Anaya, the UN special rapporteur on the rights of indigenous peoples, said no member of the US Congress would meet him as he investigated the part played by the government in the considerable difficulties faced by Indian tribes.

Anaya said that in nearly two weeks of visiting Indian reservations, indigenous communities in Alaska and Hawaii, and Native Americans now living in cities, he encountered people who suffered a history of dispossession of their lands and resources, the breakdown of their societies and "numerous instances of outright brutality, all grounded on racial discrimination".

"It's a racial discrimination that they feel is both systemic and also specific instances of ongoing discrimination that is felt at the individual level," he said. Anaya said racism extended from the broad relationship between federal or state governments and tribes down to local issues such as education.

"For example, with the treatment of children in schools both by their peers and by teachers as well as the educational system itself; the way native Americans and indigenous peoples are reflected in the school curriculum and teaching," he said.

"And discrimination in the sense of the invisibility of Native Americans in the country overall that often is reflected in the popular media. The idea that is often projected through the mainstream media and among public figures that indigenous peoples are either gone or as a group are insignificant or that they're out to get benefits in terms of handouts, or their communities and cultures are reduced to casinos, which are just flatly wrong."

Close to a million people live on the US's 310 Native American reservations. Some tribes have done well from a boom in casinos on reservations but most have not.

Anaya visited an Oglala Sioux reservation where the per capita income is around $7,000 a year, less than one-sixth of the national average, and life expectancy is about 50 years.

The two Sioux reservations in South Dakota – Rosebud and Pine Ridge – have some of the country's poorest living conditions, including mass unemployment and the highest suicide rate in the western hemisphere with an epidemic of teenagers killing themselves.

"You can see they're in a somewhat precarious situation in terms of their basic existence and the stability of their communities given that precarious land tenure situation. It's not like they have large fisheries as a resource base to sustain them. In basic economic terms it's a very difficult situation. You have upwards of 70% unemployment on the reservation and all kinds of social ills accompanying that. Very tough conditions," he said.

Anaya said Rosebud is an example where returning land taken by the US government could improve a tribe's fortunes as well as contribute to a "process of reconciliation".

"At Rosebud, that's a situation where indigenous people have seen over time encroachment on to their land and they've lost vast territories and there have been clear instances of broken treaty promises. It's undisputed that the Black Hills was guaranteed them by treaty and that treaty was just outright violated by the United States in the 1900s. That has been recognised by the United States supreme court," he said.

Anaya said he would reserve detailed recommendations on a plan for land restoration until he presents his final report to the UN human rights council in September.

"I'm talking about restoring to indigenous peoples what obviously they're entitled to and they have a legitimate claim to in a way that is not devisive but restorative. That's the idea behind reconciliation," he said.

But any such proposal is likely to meet stiff resistance in Congress similar to that which has previously greeted calls for the US government to pay reparations for slavery to African-American communities.

Anaya said he had received "exemplary cooperation" from the Obama administration but he declined to speculate on why no members of Congress would meet him.

"I typically meet with members of the national legislature on my country visits and I don't know the reason," he said.

Last month, the US justice and interior departments announced a $1 billion settlement over nearly 56 million acres of Indian land held in trust by Washington but exploited by commercial interests for timber, farming, mining and other uses with little benefit to the tribes.

The attorney general, Eric Holder, said the settlement "fairly and honourably resolves historical grievances over the accounting and management of tribal trust funds, trust lands and other non-monetary trust resources that, for far too long, have been a source of conflict between Indian tribes and the United States."

But Anaya said that was only a step in the right direction.

"These are important steps but we're talking about mismanagement by the government of assets that were left to indigenous peoples," he said. "This money for the insults on top of the injury. It's not money for the initial problem itself, which is the taking of vast territories. This is very important and I think the administration should be commended for moving forward to settle these claims but there are these deeper issues that need to be addressed."

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#3. To: Brian S (#0)

a good and just finding. I profoundly agree with them.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-04   21:20:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

a good and just finding. I profoundly agree with them.

Then get the F out of America. You are squatting on Indian land.

When do you depart?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-04   21:26:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#4)

You got something against Indians?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-05-04   21:50:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#11)

You got something against Indians?

No. Against hypocrites. You know ones who say Yes Yes UN we should give back Indian lands. Then they say I'm not a squatter.

Nothing against Indians. I am proudly part Cherokee.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-04   21:51:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#13)

We have never respected or kept a single treaty we have made with native Americans. We have never respected their religion and culture.

I see a very reasonable finding that we return part of what we stole. That is light years short of your alleged posture that they call for all the toothpaste to get back in the tube.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-04   21:54:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret Mike (#15)

I see a very reasonable finding that we return part of what we stole.

What part? Specifically.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-04   21:58:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#16)

I might add, I know quite a bit on the topic. It is a very complex and sad story what our culture has done in this hemisphere to the indigenous peoples of these two continents.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-04   22:02:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

It is a very complex and sad story what our culture has done in this hemisphere to the indigenous peoples of these two continents.

Yup,it's a shame what we did to them poor,peace-loving,Ghia worshipping innocent chil-runs. After all,they were just minding their own business as they went about their cultural traditions of genocide of other tribes,capturing slaves,torturing their enemies to death,etc,etc,etc,and here we come along and force civilization on them.

The horrors! Day be vict-tums! VICK-TUMS AH TELLS YA!

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-05   8:45:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#30)

Yup,it's a shame what we did to them poor,peace-loving,Ghia worshipping innocent chil-runs. After all,they were just minding their own business as they went about their cultural traditions of genocide of other tribes,capturing slaves,torturing their enemies to death,etc,etc,etc,and here we come along and force civilization on them.

You'd have to go some to surpass Elizabethan England in the torture department.

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-05   9:56:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: lucysmom (#32)

You'd have to go some to surpass Elizabethan England in the torture department.

Is this "lame response that has nothing to do with the subject" day?

Or you just can't resist an attempt to make whites look worse than Indians?

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-05   16:21:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: sneakypete (#59)

Or you just can't resist an attempt to make whites look worse than Indians?

Just providing some balance for those who believe Indians were worse than whites.

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-05   16:24:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: lucysmom (#60)

Just providing some balance for those who believe Indians were worse than whites.

There IS no balance. Indians WERE worse than whites in the respect that they tortured for fun instead of to punish or get information,and they never stopped this on their own. They had to be forced to stop.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-05   16:32:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: sneakypete (#64)

"There IS no balance. Indians WERE worse than whites in the respect that they tortured for fun instead of to punish or get information,and they never stopped this on their own. They had to be forced to stop."

Not true. We fought wars with them to exterminate, they would fight wars where proving one's manhood was more important then the body count. Otherwise 'counting coup,' where a man humiliated his opponent by batting him with a non-lethal pole would of been a ridiculous thing; not something that brought respect.

I would mention that we introduced the practice of 'scalping. It was a means of doing a headcount of eliminated natives where bounties were given out.

During the colonial Pequot war, we destroyed one village genealogically, burning it to the ground killing every man, woman and child, much like the U.S. Army later did at Sand Creek, Wounded Knee and at other engagements.

In the case of the Pequot war example, we were so brutal and merciless, our native allies were so horrified at the sight of what Western Civilization's view of the acceptability of genocidal war manifested itself as, many were reduced to tears of horror.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-06   12:01:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Ferret Mike (#71)

Not true. We fought wars with them to exterminate, they would fight wars where proving one's manhood was more important then the body count. Otherwise 'counting coup,' where a man humiliated his opponent by batting him with a non-lethal pole would of been a ridiculous thing; not something that brought respect.

Oh,HorseHillary! Indian tribes fought wars to exterminate other Indian tribes in order to take their lands away. They would keep a few women and children to replace the warriors they lost,but who Indian nations disappeared this way and the white man had nothing to do with it. In fact,John Smith of "Pocohontas" fame notes some Indian tribes having vanished between his first visit to the New World and the time he settled there. He made notes this was probably due to low numbers of that surviving tribe,and them being taken over by larger tribes in the area.

The Counting Coup thing was to prove bravery,not win wars.

I would mention that we introduced the practice of 'scalping.

No,we didn't. It is true white settlers from France or England (can't remember which now) may have spread scalping due to pay-offs to one local tribe for eliminating another local tribe,but various Indian tribes had been taking "trophies" for who knows how long before whites even showed up.

Since no Indian tribe had advanced to the point they had a written language,there are obviously no writings detailing how long ago they started taking scalps.

During the colonial Pequot war, we destroyed one village genealogically, burning it to the ground killing every man, woman and child, much like the U.S. Army later did at Sand Creek, Wounded Knee and at other engagements.

Once again,you are taking your PC history that only teaches the politically correct part of any event,and running with it.

For example,the British attacked a village of Tuscarora (my ancestors) in the early 1700's,killing every man,woman,and child they found there. People take stories like this and react like it all happened in some sort of vacuum. It didn't. The British attack was in response to a Tuscarora attack on a British settlement,where the Tuscarora killed every white man,woman,and child. Except for the women they took as sex slaves,that is.

The end result of all this after several other massacres by both sides that included the British importing a rival tribe from South Carolina to come to North Carolina to help with the fight was that the British paid the Tuscarora to move back to NY. Most did,but some disappeared into the swamp and remained in NC. Those who were caught were enslaved,despite it being illegal to enslave Indians. The Colonial Governor was a long ways away,and what he didn't know wouldn't hurt him,

The thing being that it was the INDIANS that started the massacres and enslavements because they were the sort of the things they had always done.

Do the words "Crotan" and "The Lost Colony" ring any bells with you?

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-06   15:06:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: sneakypete (#73)

Oh,HorseHillary! Indian tribes fought wars to exterminate other Indian tribes in order to take their lands away. They would keep a few women and children to replace the warriors they lost,but who Indian nations disappeared this way and the white man had nothing to do with it. In fact,John Smith of "Pocohontas" fame notes some Indian tribes having vanished between his first visit to the New World and the time he settled there. He made notes this was probably due to low numbers of that surviving tribe,and them being taken over by larger tribes in the area.

Certainly that all must have been shocking to the colonists who were accustomed to the peaceful co-existence that was European history.

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-06   20:10:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: lucysmom (#75)

Geesh, it's 'mans history'.

SJN  posted on  2012-05-06   20:16:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#78. To: SJN (#77)

Geesh, it's 'mans history'.

I kind of thought that too, but Sneaky says otherwise.

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-06 20:18:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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