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Title: Sixty-Million Dollar Union Assault on Wisconsin Governor Walker
Source: AT.com
URL Source: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012 ... wisconsin_governor_walker.html
Published: Apr 28, 2012
Author: Gary Larson
Post Date: 2012-04-28 09:14:01 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 12944
Comments: 112

Sixty-Million Dollar Union Assault on Wisconsin Governor Walker

By Gary Larson

Tora! Tora! Tora! No, it's no sneak attack. Nationwide unions spearheaded by the public employee unions, teachers' unions in the vanguard, have Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker in their cross hairs. They aim to shoot him down - figuratively, but of course! -- in June 5 recall elections.

Led by the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), Service Employees International Union (SEI) and Wisconsin-based and other states' teachers unions, their low-level attack is aimed at sinking Gov. Walker and his Republican majority in the Wisconsin Assembly, thus to reclaim power over how taxpayer dollars are spent.

The campaign seeks to dissemble facts and distract from - or rather, ignore -- real issues, mainly fiscal. Put simply, unions want a return to golden oldie days when they, through their Democrat marionettes, pretty much ran things at the Capitol in Madison.

To win, vituperative anti-Walker forces are putting up an estimated $60 million in ad dollars, all derived from union brethren from all parts of America. Call this solidarity. Last year union activists unleashed 3,000 recall petition carriers across Wisconsin, apparently not content to await the next election.

Tempers would have cooled by then, and salutary effects of Gov. Walker's budgetary reforms might be more fully felt. More than 900,000 Wisconsinites signed on the recall petitions to trigger recall of a duly-elected Walker, his lieutenant governor and four Republican legislators.

Among signatures collected were at least 29 journalists and 25 circuit court judges, besides rank and file dittoing Democrats doing their union thing. They did so, apparently, shamelessly. To put that number, 900,000 signatures, into perspective, Gov. Walker tallied 1.1 million votes to be elected in 2010. This suggests a razor-thin margin, either way, to come June in the recall elections.

Unions' all-out campaign to unseat him, to regain a majority in the Assembly, is a sort of masterstroke at jury disqualification. In short, forget the facts, toss the bums out. It is a battle about to become increasingly bloody. Consider a few of the squalid moments that led to this rare recall election:

Near riots in Madison last February. . . union folks, teachers mostly, occupying the Capitol. . . chanting hateful slogans. . . closing down schools. . . taking bogus "sick leave " to protest . . . state senators on union orders fleeing the state. . . attempts at intimidate all who disagreed with unions' special interests. . . death threats for Walker and fellow Republicans. . . talk of boycotting Wisconsin businesses not bowing to union demands. Why, even threats were floated of a statewide general strike to close down the state to get unions' way (again) with state's taxpayer dollars.

Oh it was a mob-like circus,and ordinary taxpayers, well, they could go to Hades, or feed the Union Beast with ever-increasing tax loads, if only Walker would get the hell out of the way.

(Want more examples of the unions' anti-Walker nuttiness? My article, "Thuggery in Wisconsin Union Battle," relates acts of union goons and some Democrat Party faithful to regain power, apparently at any cost, in Wisconsin.)

Polarization, thy name is Wisconsin politics. A close race it will be, an even split is forecast, in spite of Gov. Walker's and the new Republican majority's considerable accomplishments in a such a short span. Such as wiping out a $3.6 billion budget deficit (without raising taxes) and assisting local governments and school boards balance their budgets. In short, bringing fiscal sanity to the state.

In a recent NBC/Marist poll, 48 percent of Wisconsinites approved the job Walker is doing. Incongruently, in light of fiscal facts, 48 percent of Badger State residents polled disapproved. Among Republicans, 91 percent gave him high fives and 84 percent of Democrats did not. (Is the pope Catholic?)

(Aside: In the solitude of the voter's booth, away from intimidation, thoughtful and informed Democrats might express their approval to Gov. Walker's reforms to save their state from economic ruin. Or is this simply a pipe dream?)

Independents in the poll were split down the middle - 47 percent approved of the job Walker is doing, 47 percent disapproved. Six percent couldn't decide. "No Opinions" might have masked quiet approval of budget-hawk Walker's ways. (One can always hope good sense quietly prevails, although comedian Al Franken's win in next-door Minnesota defeats hope of good sense pervading in the electorate.)

To woo independents, Big Labor will stir the cauldron with $60 million in advertising, i just one state, in one election. Wow! Their campaign will toss tons of muck upon the wall to see what sticks. (Okay, so I cleaned up an old analogy.)

Stirring animosity for Walker and the new majority GOPers will be the same ol' strategy: Vilify 'em, dehumanize, ignore real issues, change the subject. Same as before, union strategists will try to stir the base (that, in more ways than one) to portray Walker as Hitler-like, for limiting what they (and union-friendly news media) like to call "rights."

Don't be fooled. It is a cover story to regain their do-not-touch superabundant taxpayer-paid entitlements, once called "fringe benefits" quite beyond the reach of the mere private sector.

While media might revel in the $60 million to come, they have not (yet), to their credit, uniformly assailed Gov. Walker, at least in frontal editorial attacks. Oh yes, snippy blind-side attacks have put the shiv in his back, but that's to be expected from liberal media. Such as, say a front-page piece recently in the neighboring Minneapolis Star Tribune.

It sought desperately to link a Walker-supported self-defense law in Wisconsin (a "home castle law") with, of all things, the Trayvon Martin case in Florida. (See "Echoes of Trayvon in Wisconsin Shooting.") Reporter Richard Meryhew puts the whammy on an "embattled Republican Gov. Walker" for a bill enacted by the Wisconsin Assembly on a yawning, bi-partisan basis. Oh well. Such stretches are "in" as news media types go to bat, not very subtly, against Gov. Walker, on behalf of their union kinfolk.

Consider this anti-Walker spin on the Associated Press regional wire, by Madison-based Todd Richmond, on April 21, as found in the Wisconsin State Journal. Note the words I've emphasized in Italics to denote the artful spin job:

Gov. Walker "...quietly reinstated a program to give merit raises and bonuses to some state workers even as he preached cost-cutting and pushed through a law reducing most public workers' pay and eliminating their union rights."

Catch his drift? Just one in the huge spin bag of journalists' twists. Most reporters, members of the Newspaper Guild, are in sync with their union brothers' and sisters, and ever faithful to the Party line. Call this bias a Sad Fact of Life.

Wisconsinites will be hit by a barrage of adverting of all sorts spelling out doomsday if Walker and his R colleagues are elected again. In the end, the outcome of the election will be determined by independent voters. (And may God bless them with good sense!)

We can only hope, but certainly not trust, independent voters will think straight, not be befuddled by hateful, dishonest, fact-twisting propaganda, nor succumb to the smoke and mirrors and bogus assertions of "rights" for entirely selfish union ends.

If Big Labor loses in Wisconsin, after a drain of $60 million dollars of members' dues extracted, involuntarily in most cases, from paychecks, it means their ideological kin, President Obama and his pals for a more socialistic America, are in even deeper do-do come November.

So the $60 million question in Wisconsin becomes: Will John Q. Public see clearly the issues, and what's at stake, to make the right call on June 5 in Wisconsin? As it is said, we live in such interesting times.

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

Where's the '$60 million'?

Not one source. And I checked....;}

BS.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   9:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mcgowanjm, CZ82 (#1)

Where's the '$60 million'?

Not one source. And I checked....;}

BS.

www.newsmax.com/Politics/walker-wisconsin-recall- unions/2012/04/22/id/436674

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   9:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: harrowup (#2)

BS.

www.newsmax.com/Politics/walker-wisconsin-recall- unions/2012/04/22/id/436674

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Read more on Newsmax.com: 404 Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!

anything else?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   10:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: harrowup (#2)

www.newsmax.com/Politics/walker-wisconsin-recall- unions/2012/04/22/id/436674

A quote to a name will do.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   10:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: harrowup (#2)

Why .... there you are, you old fart. I was worried that you died with one of your goats outback in the barn and the mortician couldn't pry you away from the beast.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-04-28   10:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo, lucysmom, war (#5)

Why .... there you are, you old fart. I was worried that you died with one of your goats outback in the barn and the mortician couldn't pry you away from the beast.

He was afraid to show his face around here as he was exposed as being duel IDs. After accusing me and lucy of being the same poster.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-28   10:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mcgowanjm (#4)

Scott Walker: Democratic Machine Spending $60 Million to Defeat Me From Bing:

Apr 22, 2012 · Scott Walker: Democratic Machine Spending $60 Million to ... as much as $60 million in ... record for campaign expenditures in Wisconsin was about $37 million.

www.newsmax.com/Politics/walker-wisconsin-recall-unions/2012/04/22/...

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   10:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

There's an extra space in the link he posted. Use this one;

www.newsmax.com/Politics/...ions/2012/04/22/id/436674

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-28   10:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: harrowup (#7)

Hi Gatlin..how goes it?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-28   10:14:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mininggold (#6)

I proved you and lucysmom make the mistake of expanding on the other's quotes in a pattern which at best suggests:

stream of consciousness (n) - Bing Dictionary

stream of con·scious·ness

1.literary style: a literary style that presents a character's continuous random flow of thoughts as they arise 2.flow of thoughts: the continuous uninterrupted flow of thoughts and feelings through somebody's mind

Bing Dictionary

Whether you are or are not is no longer an issue with me. Sometimes you both make some valid comments.

Shame you have such a bitchy attitude.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   10:15:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#5)

[:>(] (Blockhead)

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   10:18:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mininggold (#8)

Thanx, MG.

And I 'painfully' read thru it....;}

" The estimated price tag for the recall will shatter that record, perhaps going as high as $80 million, according to Mike McCabe, director of the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign government watchdog group.

McCabe called the epic battle “a shock to the system” of Wisconsin voters, who are unaccustomed to the national political spotlight.

“We’ve never seen these amounts of money raised and spent in state elections in Wisconsin before,” said McCabe, who expects Walker to marginally outspend Democrats and the unions. “We’ve also never seen these levels of outside interference. The amount of money flowing from outside into Wisconsin is just unprecedented. We don’t have anything in our past that you could compare this too.”

Read more on Newsmax.com: Scott Walker: Democratic Machine Spending $60 Million to Defeat Me Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!"

I get $80 million for the entire thing.

And

"said McCabe, who expects Walker to marginally outspend Democrats and the unions.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   10:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mininggold, lucysmom, war, harrowup (#6)

He was afraid to show his face around here as he was exposed as being duel IDs. After accusing me and lucy of being the same poster.

Now ... I remember his whimpering. harrowup is so petty when it comes to ASCII based chit-chat forums.

He used to think, that I was EVERYONE that he couldn't tolerate impersonating ALL kinds of ghosts in his mind on LP. He is one weird&strange furry animal luber.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-04-28   10:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: harrowup (#10)

Whether you are or are not is no longer an issue with me. Sometimes you both make some valid comments.

Shame you have such a bitchy attitude.

That's would be a neat trick as we live many miles away from each other. But then it's nice to know that your 'vastly superior' intellect can be fooled without even putting out the intention.

You sound so misogynistic. But I think it's more your being a grumpy, testosterone deficient old man.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-28   10:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lucysmom (#14)

Ping to 14

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-28   10:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mcgowanjm (#12)

And I 'painfully' read thru it.

There are hundreds of other citations. Of course most are a repeat but the figure of sixty million has been around ever since the recall got legs.

Whether it is true of not, I don't know. Living in Wisconsin I've not seen any evidence of that kind of volume on TV/Glossy/Mailings/Telephone.

Right now we are falling asleep listening to Barrett and am dreading the moment when Kathleen Falk's campaign starts spending some of the union money promised to her.

One thing is clear, the good old boys and the baby chairman of the WDP did a number on Falk and that is going to guarantee a Walker landslide.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   10:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mininggold (#14)

You sound so misogynistic. But I think it's more your being a grumpy, testosterone deficient old man.

Mostly true, but for the last charge since Surgery/Estrogen Therapy/Chemo/Radiation has kept me alive for more than 15 years.

Next?

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   10:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: harrowup (#16)

One thing is clear, the good old boys and the baby chairman of the WDP did a number on Falk and that is going to guarantee a Walker landslide.

I can't imagine a 'recall election' resulting in a landslide.

For the guy being recalled.

Something's not right.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   10:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: buckeroo (#13)

He used to think, that I was EVERYONE that he couldn't tolerate impersonating ALL kinds of ghosts in his mind on LP.

Nope, calcon has you outnumbered 5-1.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   10:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeroo (#13)

Now ... I remember his whimpering. harrowup is so petty when it comes to ASCII based chit-chat forums.

He used to think, that I was EVERYONE that he couldn't tolerate impersonating ALL kinds of ghosts in his mind on LP. He is one weird&strange furry animal luber.

It does seem to bring out borderline tendencies in many posters.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-28   10:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: harrowup, calcon (#19)

Thanks. This is good news. I was afraid that your gal, Salley, was fetching the Internet police on me for impersonating myself with ten million monickers.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-04-28   10:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mcgowanjm (#18)

Something's not right.

Correct.

The editorial swamp in Milwaukee/Madison.

People who live and work in the rest of the state are fed up and after Barrett beats Falk the teachers are not going to bother to vote...unless they are forced to swear allegiance and the teachers I know are not even interested in voting for Falk.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   10:36:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#21)

I was afraid that your gal, Salley

Don't know her.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   10:37:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: harrowup (#16)

And until we go back to paper ballots (and ALL of the Untold since 2000 Diebold 'irregularities' are addressed) I don't believe Any poll results.

"election integrity expert John Washburn of Wisconsin Fair Elections explained to us that Yaeger had been both hired and trained by Nickolaus herself.

The temporary replacement by her Deputy offered little comfort for Washburn. Prompted by recent disturbing news that elections run on electronic tabulation systems identical to those used in Waukesha County had recently been found to have named several losing candidates as "winners" in elections in a different state, Washburn, a Republican, suggested he had little basis for confidence in whatever reported results might come out of the state's most Republican-leaning county in the upcoming recalls.

www.bradblog.com/?p=9262

People don't vote against their best interests. Time after Time after Time.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   10:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: harrowup (#17)

Mostly true, but for the last charge since Surgery/Estrogen Therapy/Chemo/Radiation has kept me alive for more than 15 years.

Next?

Then you ought to know the side effects.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-28   10:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: harrowup (#23)

Don't know her.

Yeah ... YOU do. She is the one that YOU cherish as the bastion of "conservative" standards running a chit-chat forum while she receives her latest golden-haired scheme and info from clyven.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-04-28   10:42:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mcgowanjm (#24)

And until we go back to paper ballots (and ALL of the Untold since 2000 Diebold 'irregularities' are addressed) I don't believe Any poll results.

Washburn is a jealous ass even though his target is a stupid fluke.

Wisconsin has paper ballots read electronically.

You want to count them you can take a bundle home if you like.

Our local town only has about 4000 eligible voters and normally only half show up for an important vote.

Our town clerk didn't flunk arithmetic.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   10:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: harrowup (#27)

Wisconsin has paper ballots read electronically.

That's the problem.

And every 'recount' just throws the ballots back thru the very same Optiscans.

Paper Ballot and PUBLIC counting...just like the Good Ole Days.

Costs less and produces better Gold Standard results.

It's never explained where the 'grass roots' call to put in Computer/Optiscan ballots came from.

And to take the process away from the League of Women Voters....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   10:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: buckeroo (#26)

Yeah ... YOU do. She is the one that YOU cherish as the bastion of "conservative" standards

Nope. Never heard of Salley.

None of these sites are 'conservative'.

They are now and have always been anti-tax, anti-government wing-nut libertooney kill all the infidels bigoted but funny escapes from the real world.

Don't believe me? What does JR say is FR's mission?

I mean, how much funnier can it get.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   10:50:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeroo (#21)

I was afraid that your gal, Salley, was fetching the Internet police on me for impersonating myself

LMAO!!!

Funny stuff right there.

We The People  posted on  2012-04-28   10:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: mcgowanjm (#28)

And every 'recount' just throws the ballots back thru the very same Optiscans.

Nope.

That's why I said our town clerk didn't flunk artithmetic.

Somebody questions the results those paper ballots are plunked on her desk and the public is invited to take a pile and read them themselves.

If they still have a problem and still don't like the results, we shoot them.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   10:52:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: harrowup (#27)

Wisconsin has paper ballots read electronically.

Same thing. If they're counted electronically the election can still be stolen in plain sight.

We The People  posted on  2012-04-28   10:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: harrowup (#27)

And start noticing how 'Exit Polls' are used with exactitude in certain situations.

And then the very same 'Exit Polls' are thrown out as being totally inconsistent in others.

Double Standard.

I'm down to Local elections. You aren't going to get 'Joe Blow' elected as Sheriff over the qualified guy. not w/o a stink.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   10:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: harrowup (#31) (Edited)

Somebody questions the results those paper ballots are plunked on her desk and the public is invited to take a pile and read them themselves.

If they still have a problem and still don't like the results, we shoot them.

I'll have to see that. Specifically. Especially the 'disappeared'. You send the bill for the bullet to the family as well? ;}

There are all kinds of suits addressing just that. New Hampshire for instance.

The public is kept out at all times and never given access.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   10:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: mininggold (#14)

Whether you are or are not is no longer an issue with me. Sometimes you both make some valid comments.

Shame you have such a bitchy attitude.

That's would be a neat trick as we live many miles away from each other. But then it's nice to know that your 'vastly superior' intellect can be fooled without even putting out the intention.

Some people are just programed to believe any fool thing that comes down the pike.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-28   10:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: mcgowanjm (#33)

And start noticing how 'Exit Polls' are used with exactitude in certain situations.

Anyone conducting an 'exit poll' in our town will need a ride home if he survives since his tires will be slashed. Believe it or not Wisconsin is a very red-necked state in spite of what the UW tries to peddle.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   10:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: harrowup (#31)

If they still have a problem and still don't like the results, we shoot them.

Death penalty for disagreement - that sounds real American.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-28   11:00:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: harrowup (#36)

Anyone conducting an 'exit poll' in our town will need a ride home if he survives since his tires will be slashed. Believe it or not Wisconsin is a very red-necked state in spite of what the UW tries to peddle.

O I've never had a doubt.

Wisconsin's just a 'grown up' Arkansas in my opinion....;}

That's why I always get bent at folks talkin' about Southerners being backward when we do the Civil Rights long before the North gets around to it.

One of the bennies for winning the Civil War I guess...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   11:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mcgowanjm (#34)

I'll have to see that. Specifically.

I get the impression you don't like to be corrected.

You were wrong in denying 'source' and you are still wrong.

Be glad to give you an invite. Just PM me with your real name and email and I'll send you an invitation to meet the Sheriff and the Town Clerk. They're neighbors and they really don't like snoops with attitude.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   11:01:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: harrowup (#39)

I get the impression you don't like to be corrected.

You were wrong in denying 'source' and you are still wrong.

Nope. You haven't sourced. And you've brought up 'instances' of fairness which I've refuted.

And I look forward to drinking the many different beers/cheeses of Wisconsin.

Just not right now, thanx. I've got my hands full with Ark, OK, Texas, MS, and Louisiana.

Let's just say that I'll bet the best football (same thing as politics down here;) of any of the above against the Badgers....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   11:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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