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Title: New Law Would Force Churches to Accept Gay Marriage
Source: Creative Minority Report
URL Source: http://www.creativeminorityreport.c ... -force-churches-to-accept.html
Published: Apr 24, 2012
Author: matthew archbold
Post Date: 2012-04-24 16:26:50 by hondo68
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Keywords: gay & lesbian or transgender, Human Relations Commission, the protected classes
Views: 23146
Comments: 86

A city council is weighing a proposed ordinance that would force churches in the Kansas town to rent their facilities for gay weddings.

This kind of thing nationwide is inevitable. Folks who are for gay marriage see it as a civil rights issue. And may see the Catholic Church and conservative Christian organizations as the enemy. Do you really think they'd fight for civil rights and then agree that the institutions they hate don't have to acknowledge those civil rights? Of course not. Like I said, this kind of law is inevitable everywhere.

Todd Starnes of Fox News reports:

The Hutchinson City Council will consider adding sexual orientation and gender identity to the protected classes in the city’s human relations code. They are expected to vote on the changes next month.

According to the Hutchinson Human Relations Commission, churches that rent out their buildings to the general public would not be allowed to discriminate “against a gay couple who want to rent the building for a party.”

Meryl Dye, a spokesperson for the Human Relations Commission confirmed to Fox News that churches would be subjected to portions of the proposed law.

“They would not be able to discriminate against gay and lesbian or transgender individuals,” Dye said. “That type of protection parallels to what you find in race discrimination. If a church provides lodging or rents a facility they could not discriminate based on race. It’s along that kind of thinking.”

Matthew Staver, chairman of the Liberty Counsel Action, told Fox News the proposed law is “un-American.”

“It is a collision course between religious freedom and the LGBT agenda,” Staver said. “This proposed legislation will ultimately override the religious freedom that is protected under the First Amendment.”

He argued that churches cannot be forced by the government to set aside their religious convictions and their mission. And, he warned, some churches could even be forced to rent their buildings for drag parties.
Hey, if religious institutions can be forced to cover abortifacients and sterilization procedures, what's the problem with forcing churches to rent their halls to folks celebrating a gay marriage. Come on, what's a little drag party between friends?

I'd suggest that churches start decorating their halls in very drab colors to avoid interest from gay marriage celebrations. And maybe put up lots of sports memorabilia. Wait, the lesbians might like that. How about a wall of inspirational posters with pictures of sunsets and lakes and stuff with quotes from Maggie Gallagher saying things like, "Europe, which gave us the idea of same-sex marriage, is a dying society, with birthrates 50 percent below replacement."


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#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

If the facilities ae open for rental by the general public, they have no business discriminating against some people who want to use them because they are getting married.

The answer is very simple, and the churches should be brought to task for their bigotry.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   11:04:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#2)

If the facilities ae open for rental by the general public

should be brought to task for their bigotry.

It's private property, they can exclude whomever they like for any reason, or no reason. Go to a gay church, and get your marriage certificate from a gay printer.

It's not illegal to be a gay bigot, or a straight one either.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-25   13:23:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: hondo68 (#8)

If they open the venue to the public as available to be rented for weddings, they deserve the flack if they discriminate against people for getting married.

Whatever the outcome, it is perfectly appropriate to take these people to task for their problems with their ability to live with and tolerate others.

I hope they lose the legal battle, but even if they don't, the controversy won't end, and this will be merely one of many places this battle is fought before this war against bigotry and intolerance is won.

"Go to a gay church, and get your marriage certificate from a gay printer."

I was married to a woman, and if I get married again, it will also be to a female.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   13:38:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ferret Mike (#9)

I hope they lose the legal battle, but even if they don't, the controversy won't end, and this will be merely one of many places this battle is fought before this war against bigotry and intolerance is won.

Until normal good people get tired of freaks like you and exterminate you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-25   16:56:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#17) (Edited)

Ping to Ferret Mike!

"hope they lose the legal battle, but even if they don't, the controversy won't end, and this will be merely one of many places this battle is fought before this war against bigotry and intolerance is won."

"Until normal good people get tired of freaks like you and exterminate you.

If you think for one moment that any so-called legal battle will change a persons mind over this abomination mike, think again, and you (if you actually do have the guts to fight, which I seriously doubt), and all these other desease ridden vermon, had better be armed with more than just your purses to throw at them, because blood will be spilled.

Where their abominal desease came from, and who carries and spreads it!

Murron  posted on  2012-04-26   0:24:20 ET  (2 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Murron (#28) (Edited)

HIV is a huge problem in Heterosexual relationships in much the world.

How HIV is Increasing Among Heterosexuals It is a myth that AIDS is a gay disease. The fact is, 32% of Americans who were diagnosed with HIV/AIDS in 2007 were heterosexual. (See chart.)

HIV does not discriminate. Anyone can get it if he or she is not careful. You have probably heard many times about the importance of using condoms and practicing safe sex. Here is another reminder, and some tips about communicating openly with your sex partners.

Let's Talk About Safe Sex! We know it can be awkward talking about safe sex with your partner. But it's important to take the initiative and be strong. Your partner may also respect you more because you're showing that you care about yourself and your future. Don't wait until the heat of the moment to bring up the topic. It's easier to discuss ways to have safer sex ahead of time so you'll both be clear. It might even get you in the mood!

Talk to your partner as if he/she were your best friend. "Above all, I respect you as a friend, and I don't want either of us to get HIV and other STDs. We've got to be safe and use condoms."

Suggest getting tested for HIV together. The experience may bring you closer emotionally. "I'll feel better if we know our HIV status before having sex. Let's get tested together."

Be prepared to state your concerns around HIV and/or pregnancy and don't back down. "I really want to be with you, but we haven't been tested yet. We've got to be safe and use condoms."

If you haven't used condoms in the past and want to start, try explaining that you need to do things differently. "I know we haven't used condoms in the past, but now I realize that was a mistake. We need to be smarter." http://www.hvtn.org/community/straight.html

Worldwide, most HIV infections are caused by heterosexual contact. And as we see by the above story, the demographics of the disease in the U.S. is changing as it is increasingly being passed in heterosexual relationships.

Your line of bait is not only pointless, but it's assumptions are out of date too. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   4:22:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike, Murron (#35)

HIV is Increasing Among Heterosexuals

Due to bisexual wiccan junkie gay marriages.

"We want to ask Barack Obama, is this what he wants to bring to Africa?"

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-26   8:27:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: hondo68 (#38)

No, these are quite rank and file people that are coming down with this disease through heterosexual intercourse. Interesting how you add your racism to Stone's homophobia.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   8:51:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#40)

Interesting how you add your racism to Stone's homophobia.

Says the anal licking racist cracka.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-26   9:10:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: hondo68 (#41)

"Says the anal licking racist cracka."

Ecpet unfortunately for you, I am quite heterosexual. It is a common tactic of haters and baiters to label anyone against irrational bigotry, hatred and scapegoating to try to paint anyone against this inhumanity as doing it because they allegedly belong to the demographic group the hatred and scapegoating targets.

All this proves is you know how to hate and try to belittle and harrass others. And that is it.

Oh, and I'm a 'corn cracker' who is a quarter Puerto Rican, which is a group that has it's haters who are just as brutally ignorant and vicious as thos who labelled the Irish immigrating to this country over it's histery as 'White Niggers,' another group whom I as someone named McCarthy know well.

You don't worry or bother me little guy, I see what sort of scoundrel you are quite well.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   9:39:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Ferret Mike, hondo68 (#44)

"Says the anal licking racist cracka."

Ecpet unfortunately for you, I am quite heterosexual. It is a common tactic of haters and baiters to label anyone against irrational bigotry, hatred and scapegoating to try to paint anyone against this inhumanity as doing it because they allegedly belong to the demographic group the hatred and scapegoating targets.

All this proves is you know how to hate and try to belittle and harrass others. And that is it.

Oh, and I'm a 'corn cracker' who is a quarter Puerto Rican, which is a group that has it's haters who are just as brutally ignorant and vicious as thos who labelled the Irish immigrating to this country over it's histery as 'White Niggers,' another group whom I as someone named McCarthy know well.

You don't worry or bother me little guy, I see what sort of scoundrel you are quite well.

LMAO!

You really are a hypocritical LYING libTURD POS cornflake boy.

LOL!

You are so "open minded" that you TRY to attack people that you hate by calling them queers.

ROTFLMAO!!!

Just like you have tried to do with me you LYING little HYPOCRITICAL bitch.

Pointing at YOU laughing!

Explain to us all how IF you really do respect QUEERS, then why do you TRY to use being QUEER as an insult and attack on others you gibbering HYPOCRITE bitch?

Oh yeah... YOU ARE a LYING HYPOCRITICAL libTURD piece of shit.

LOL!

You simpering little pussy.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-26   13:39:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Mad Dog (#55) (Edited)

"You are so "open minded" that you TRY to attack people that you hate by calling them queers."

Actually Steve, I never called you homosexual, just asked about a thread that Stone has verified that he removed a short time after it was posted.

I merely posted it, and then asked you about it.

Sorry if all that makes you defensive and uncommunicative, but that's the breaks kid. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   13:44:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Ferret Mike (#56)

Yawn ...

LMAO!

You really are a hypocritical LYING libTURD POS cornflake boy.

LOL!

You are so "open minded" that you TRY to attack people that you hate by calling them queers.

ROTFLMAO!!!

Just like you have tried to do with me you LYING little HYPOCRITICAL bitch.

Pointing at YOU laughing!

Explain to us all how IF you really do respect QUEERS, then why do you TRY to use being QUEER as an insult and attack on others you gibbering HYPOCRITE bitch?

Oh yeah... YOU ARE a LYING HYPOCRITICAL libTURD piece of shit.

LOL!

You simpering little cowardly LYING pussy.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-26   13:49:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Mad Dog (#58)

"Oh yeah... YOU ARE a LYING HYPOCRITICAL libTURD piece of shit."

This is the oldest part of your diatribe here, and it is predicated on the tactic I used at Free Republic by continually being a thorn in their side with returning bannee accounts.

I am not impressed with your self serving analysis of my past posting habits. But I will agree that though I learned some interesting things, the tactic did little good, and in retrospect I would of been better off just ignoring them. ;-)

But that is often how any activism works out; some things work, and other things do not. And to know which way that is going to go, usually you are left with trying the game plan out and seeing how it works and why.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   13:59:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#65. To: Ferret Mike (#62)

Mad Dog; "Oh yeah... YOU ARE a LYING HYPOCRITICAL libTURD piece of shit."

This is the oldest part of your diatribe here

That's because it's the oldest objective FACT, corn flake gurl.

REMEMBER corn flake girl?

YOU ARE AN ADMITTED LIAR corn flake girl.

Aren't YOU corn flake girl?

Now tell us all WHY you LIED. (Of course that does NOT change the fact that YOU ARE AN ADMITTED LIAR corn flake girl).

Does it corn flake girl?

So, we have proven, and you have admitted on this very site, that YOU ARE A LYING POS corn flake girl.

Ergo corn flake girl, it is ESTABLISHED FACT that YOU ARE A vile LYING POS.

Want me to go on HYPOCRITE?

Want me to point out a couple of examples of where you show what a HYPOCRITE you are corn flake girl?

corn flake girl?

corn flake girl?

corn flake girl?

You are FOUL, and pitiful beyond mere words.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-26 14:16:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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