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Title: New Law Would Force Churches to Accept Gay Marriage
Source: Creative Minority Report
URL Source: http://www.creativeminorityreport.c ... -force-churches-to-accept.html
Published: Apr 24, 2012
Author: matthew archbold
Post Date: 2012-04-24 16:26:50 by hondo68
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Keywords: gay & lesbian or transgender, Human Relations Commission, the protected classes
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Comments: 86

A city council is weighing a proposed ordinance that would force churches in the Kansas town to rent their facilities for gay weddings.

This kind of thing nationwide is inevitable. Folks who are for gay marriage see it as a civil rights issue. And may see the Catholic Church and conservative Christian organizations as the enemy. Do you really think they'd fight for civil rights and then agree that the institutions they hate don't have to acknowledge those civil rights? Of course not. Like I said, this kind of law is inevitable everywhere.

Todd Starnes of Fox News reports:

The Hutchinson City Council will consider adding sexual orientation and gender identity to the protected classes in the city’s human relations code. They are expected to vote on the changes next month.

According to the Hutchinson Human Relations Commission, churches that rent out their buildings to the general public would not be allowed to discriminate “against a gay couple who want to rent the building for a party.”

Meryl Dye, a spokesperson for the Human Relations Commission confirmed to Fox News that churches would be subjected to portions of the proposed law.

“They would not be able to discriminate against gay and lesbian or transgender individuals,” Dye said. “That type of protection parallels to what you find in race discrimination. If a church provides lodging or rents a facility they could not discriminate based on race. It’s along that kind of thinking.”

Matthew Staver, chairman of the Liberty Counsel Action, told Fox News the proposed law is “un-American.”

“It is a collision course between religious freedom and the LGBT agenda,” Staver said. “This proposed legislation will ultimately override the religious freedom that is protected under the First Amendment.”

He argued that churches cannot be forced by the government to set aside their religious convictions and their mission. And, he warned, some churches could even be forced to rent their buildings for drag parties.
Hey, if religious institutions can be forced to cover abortifacients and sterilization procedures, what's the problem with forcing churches to rent their halls to folks celebrating a gay marriage. Come on, what's a little drag party between friends?

I'd suggest that churches start decorating their halls in very drab colors to avoid interest from gay marriage celebrations. And maybe put up lots of sports memorabilia. Wait, the lesbians might like that. How about a wall of inspirational posters with pictures of sunsets and lakes and stuff with quotes from Maggie Gallagher saying things like, "Europe, which gave us the idea of same-sex marriage, is a dying society, with birthrates 50 percent below replacement."


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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

A city council [government] is weighing a proposed ordinance that would force churches in the Kansas town to rent their facilities for gay weddings.

So, separation of state&church limitations and considerations are bonafide on the local level within the USA? ROTFL.

Ain't gonna happen. Here is what shall happen: the city council shall rent space at the city hall or the city council private homes for gay marriages. That is all.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-04-24   21:38:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

If the facilities ae open for rental by the general public, they have no business discriminating against some people who want to use them because they are getting married.

The answer is very simple, and the churches should be brought to task for their bigotry.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   11:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

If the facilities ae open for rental by the general public, they have no business discriminating against some people who want to use them because they are getting married.

The answer is very simple, and the churches should be brought to task for their bigotry.

Plus if they want to stop taking orders from the government they need to stop being wards and show some independence by let's say ......paying their property taxes?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-25   11:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#1)

So, separation of state&church limitations and considerations are bonafide on the local level within the USA? ROTFL.

Don't you just love paying your high property tax bills when most of those mega churches pay none?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-25   11:12:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

general public

The general public doesn't include you weirdos !

A Patriot is gone…RIP Norm Liebmann

The survival of Civilization now depends on the departure of the key players and the arrival of a few gifted amateurs.

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2011/02/patriot-is-gonerip-norm-liebmann.html

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-04-25   11:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mininggold (#4)

"Don't you just love paying your high property tax bills when most of those mega churches pay none?"

The time is long overdue to start sending these churches a tax bill.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   11:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

sending these churches a tax bill

The tax bill for the great society - affirmative action of rejects - losers !

The survival of Civilization now depends on the departure of the key players and the arrival of a few gifted amateurs.

How prophetic - last words !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-04-25   12:19:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#2)

If the facilities ae open for rental by the general public

should be brought to task for their bigotry.

It's private property, they can exclude whomever they like for any reason, or no reason. Go to a gay church, and get your marriage certificate from a gay printer.

It's not illegal to be a gay bigot, or a straight one either.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-25   13:23:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: hondo68 (#8)

If they open the venue to the public as available to be rented for weddings, they deserve the flack if they discriminate against people for getting married.

Whatever the outcome, it is perfectly appropriate to take these people to task for their problems with their ability to live with and tolerate others.

I hope they lose the legal battle, but even if they don't, the controversy won't end, and this will be merely one of many places this battle is fought before this war against bigotry and intolerance is won.

"Go to a gay church, and get your marriage certificate from a gay printer."

I was married to a woman, and if I get married again, it will also be to a female.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   13:38:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#0)

.

So called "race" is NOT an optional behavior.

The messiah "king" obammy's jihad against Christianity will NOT stand.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-25   13:49:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: hondo68 (#0)

New Law Would Force Churches to Accept Gay Marriage

The title is misleading - the law wouldn't force churches to accept gay marriage, just not discriminate against gay couples who want to rent church property that is available for rent to other non-church members.

They can discriminate all they want, just not on what they make available to the public. Public means accessible to or shared by ALL members of a community. Don't want to do that, keep it private.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-25   13:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lucysmom, hondo68 (#11)

The title is misleading - the law wouldn't force churches to accept gay marriage, just not discriminate against gay couples who want to rent church property that is available for rent to other non-church members.

They can discriminate all they want, just not on what they make available to the public. Public means accessible to or shared by ALL members of a community. Don't want to do that, keep it private.

So you support making mosques host jewish and "gay" marriages right FOOL?

No?

HYPOCRITE.

Why are you such a WHORE for TYRANNY?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-25   13:54:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

If the facilities ae open for rental by the general public, they have no business discriminating against some people who want to use them because they are getting married.

The answer is very simple, and the churches should be brought to task for their bigotry.

You're a dumb fuck. If some queer comes to a church and wants to be married. Put a bullet in the queers head and dump them in the river.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-25   16:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

The time is long overdue to start sending these churches a tax bill.

It is long over due to get the brass knuckles out and the baseball bats. And beat the snot out of some liberals.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-25   16:51:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

he answer is very simple, and the churches should be brought to task for their bigotry.

The churches should start stringing up witches, and burning them at the stake. Only assholes that want to interfere with them. The church is above the state. My dogs shit is above you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-25   16:53:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mininggold (#4)

Don't you just love paying your high property tax bills when most of those mega churches pay none?

Hey baby killer. When the church building speaks then you can tax it. If you don't like it. Jump off a cliff.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-25   16:55:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ferret Mike (#9)

I hope they lose the legal battle, but even if they don't, the controversy won't end, and this will be merely one of many places this battle is fought before this war against bigotry and intolerance is won.

Until normal good people get tired of freaks like you and exterminate you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-25   16:56:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

The answer is very simple, and the churches should be brought to task for their bigotry.

Church is supposed to be where the Gospel of Christ is taught. The Gospel is implicit in what God has said concerning acts against Natural Law and Him.

Christians will never accept your acts against nature and God as normal. Not ever.

Once you succeed in driving Christians underground sooner than later there will be hell to pay and you'll be holding the catchers mitt.

Disgusting frickin' perverts.

SJN  posted on  2012-04-25   16:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Mad Dog (#10)

So called "race" is NOT an optional behavior.

Who cares, I don't need an excuse to keep someone out of my church. Maybe I just don't like their looks, or they drive a Chevy Volt.

Public property would have to be just that... open to the public.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-25   17:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: SJN (#18)

Once you succeed in driving Christians underground sooner than later there will be hell to pay and you'll be holding the catchers mitt.

A catchers mit will be insufficient when lead is reigning down on him.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-25   17:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#13)

If some queer comes to a church and wants to be married. Put a bullet in the queers head and dump them in the river.

Were you molested as a child?

Sure the hell sounds like it...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-04-25   17:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#13)

"Put a bullet in the queers head and dump them in the river."

That was the German Nazi solution for homosexuality as well as for the Jews. How does if feel to sound like Hitler?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   23:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: SJN (#18)

"Church is supposed to be where the Gospel of Christ is taught."

Oh, you mean that stuff all full of love and tolerance? You could of fooled me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   23:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#17)

"Until normal good people get tired of freaks like you and exterminate you."

Talk that way to my face and act like you are going to do it, you would be smart to hope you don't get made room temperature first.

I'm not intimidated by you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   23:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#20)

"A catchers mit will be insufficient when lead is reigning down on him."

Funny how that works both ways, junior.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   23:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Brian S (#21)

"Were you molested as a child?

Sure the hell sounds like it..."

He's still a child emotionally, sad but true.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   23:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#22)

"That was the German Nazi solution for homosexuality as well as for the Jews."

German Nazis aren't killing Jews anymore, but fags have that little something that just keeps on giving killing.

ANYONE who knowingly carries a deadly venereal disease, but continues to spead DEATH by playing russian roulette with innocent lives, deserves nothing short of a bullet between the eyes, and if you are among those desease ridden, filthy animals, do yourself, and more innocent people a favore, and off yourself as a good example, maybe others will follow your example. jmho!

"A friend will calm you down when you are angry, but a best friend will skip beside you with a baseball bat singing, "someone's gonna get it"

Murron  posted on  2012-04-25   23:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#17) (Edited)

Ping to Ferret Mike!

"hope they lose the legal battle, but even if they don't, the controversy won't end, and this will be merely one of many places this battle is fought before this war against bigotry and intolerance is won."

"Until normal good people get tired of freaks like you and exterminate you.

If you think for one moment that any so-called legal battle will change a persons mind over this abomination mike, think again, and you (if you actually do have the guts to fight, which I seriously doubt), and all these other desease ridden vermon, had better be armed with more than just your purses to throw at them, because blood will be spilled.

Where their abominal desease came from, and who carries and spreads it!

"A friend will calm you down when you are angry, but a best friend will skip beside you with a baseball bat singing, "someone's gonna get it"

Murron  posted on  2012-04-26   0:24:20 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#16) (Edited)

Hey baby killer. When the church building speaks then you can tax it. If you don't like it. Jump off a cliff.

Churches need to stop being wards of their local governments and start paying their own way. I'm tired of supporting mega churches and their rich congregations that are getting a free ride on the taxpayers.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-26   1:09:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mininggold (#29)

You aren't supporting them! lol

Another liberal screaming about how others need to pay more to the Government.

SJN  posted on  2012-04-26   2:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

Oh, you mean that stuff all full of love and tolerance? You could of fooled me.

You wouldn't know what truth and love are if it bit you between the eyes.

God does not tolerate evil and neither did Christ.

SJN  posted on  2012-04-26   2:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: mininggold (#29)

"Churches need to stop being wards of their local governments and start paying their own way. I'm tired of supporting mega churches and their rich congregations that are getting a free ride on the taxpayers."

I fully agree with you. especially in this hrsh economic time, it's time for these freeloaders to pay their way.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   3:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: SJN (#31)

Apparently I know the truth better then a bigot like you. ;-)

Your subjective opinions of bigotry are your own. Otherwise one could make the argument the reason heterosexual marriage fails so often is because the Christian/Jewish/Muslim God disapproves of it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   3:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Murron (#28)

"Where their abominal desease came from, and who carries and spreads it!"

Careful, much of the diseases that wiped out many Native Americans because they didn't have European resistance to diseases that abounded in European culture due to lack of hygiene in European cities and culture by your own logic were caused by unclean devils that spread their poison to innocents in the Western hemisphere.

Your inference we of European ancestry are disease ridden vermin is unrealistic and uncalled for.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   3:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Murron (#28) (Edited)

HIV is a huge problem in Heterosexual relationships in much the world.

How HIV is Increasing Among Heterosexuals It is a myth that AIDS is a gay disease. The fact is, 32% of Americans who were diagnosed with HIV/AIDS in 2007 were heterosexual. (See chart.)

HIV does not discriminate. Anyone can get it if he or she is not careful. You have probably heard many times about the importance of using condoms and practicing safe sex. Here is another reminder, and some tips about communicating openly with your sex partners.

Let's Talk About Safe Sex! We know it can be awkward talking about safe sex with your partner. But it's important to take the initiative and be strong. Your partner may also respect you more because you're showing that you care about yourself and your future. Don't wait until the heat of the moment to bring up the topic. It's easier to discuss ways to have safer sex ahead of time so you'll both be clear. It might even get you in the mood!

Talk to your partner as if he/she were your best friend. "Above all, I respect you as a friend, and I don't want either of us to get HIV and other STDs. We've got to be safe and use condoms."

Suggest getting tested for HIV together. The experience may bring you closer emotionally. "I'll feel better if we know our HIV status before having sex. Let's get tested together."

Be prepared to state your concerns around HIV and/or pregnancy and don't back down. "I really want to be with you, but we haven't been tested yet. We've got to be safe and use condoms."

If you haven't used condoms in the past and want to start, try explaining that you need to do things differently. "I know we haven't used condoms in the past, but now I realize that was a mistake. We need to be smarter." http://www.hvtn.org/community/straight.html

Worldwide, most HIV infections are caused by heterosexual contact. And as we see by the above story, the demographics of the disease in the U.S. is changing as it is increasingly being passed in heterosexual relationships.

Your line of bait is not only pointless, but it's assumptions are out of date too. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   4:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

Oh, you mean that stuff all full of love and tolerance?

Tolerance is evil. You don't tolerate evil. You destroy it.

Mikey you are a fullfillment of Bible prophecy. You call good evil and evil good. Mike it is people like you that are the problem in this country. And you will vote for Obama. You worship it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-26   6:53:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mininggold (#29)

Churches need to stop being wards of their local governments and start paying their own way. I'm tired of supporting mega churches and their rich congregations that are getting a free ride on the taxpayers.

Yes. And we real Americans are tired of you breathing our air.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-26   6:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike, Murron (#35)

HIV is Increasing Among Heterosexuals

Due to bisexual wiccan junkie gay marriages.

"We want to ask Barack Obama, is this what he wants to bring to Africa?"


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-26   8:27:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#36)

"Tolerance is evil. You don't tolerate evil. You destroy it."

Thstmis the way Hitler felt about people he hated, gays being one of the groups as well as Jews. He was just as wrong as you are here.

And so what is your plan 'my little wannabe Fuhrer,' kill gays and lesbians every time there is one through the rest of history? There have been homosexuals as long as the species has existed, and this will always be the case.

Or do you grow up and realize that you are sane and realistic and learn to accept people the way they are?

Your final solution for homosexuality is very Nazi of you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   8:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: hondo68 (#38)

No, these are quite rank and file people that are coming down with this disease through heterosexual intercourse. Interesting how you add your racism to Stone's homophobia.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   8:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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