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Title: The third industrial revolution
Source: The Economist
URL Source: http://www.economist.com/node/21553017
Published: Apr 22, 2012
Author: The Economist
Post Date: 2012-04-22 17:36:56 by jwpegler
Keywords: None
Views: 6959
Comments: 81

The digitisation of manufacturing will transform the way goods are made—and change the politics of jobs too

THE first industrial revolution began in Britain in the late 18th century, with the mechanisation of the textile industry. Tasks previously done laboriously by hand in hundreds of weavers’ cottages were brought together in a single cotton mill, and the factory was born. The second industrial revolution came in the early 20th century, when Henry Ford mastered the moving assembly line and ushered in the age of mass production. The first two industrial revolutions made people richer and more urban. Now a third revolution is under way. Manufacturing is going digital. As this week’s special report argues, this could change not just business, but much else besides.

A number of remarkable technologies are converging: clever software, novel materials, more dexterous robots, new processes (notably three-dimensional printing) and a whole range of web-based services. The factory of the past was based on cranking out zillions of identical products: Ford famously said that car-buyers could have any colour they liked, as long as it was black. But the cost of producing much smaller batches of a wider variety, with each product tailored precisely to each customer’s whims, is falling. The factory of the future will focus on mass customisation—and may look more like those weavers’ cottages than Ford’s assembly line.

The old way of making things involved taking lots of parts and screwing or welding them together. Now a product can be designed on a computer and “printed” on a 3D printer, which creates a solid object by building up successive layers of material. The digital design can be tweaked with a few mouseclicks. The 3D printer can run unattended, and can make many things which are too complex for a traditional factory to handle. In time, these amazing machines may be able to make almost anything, anywhere—from your garage to an African village.

The applications of 3D printing are especially mind-boggling. Already, hearing aids and high-tech parts of military jets are being printed in customised shapes. The geography of supply chains will change. An engineer working in the middle of a desert who finds he lacks a certain tool no longer has to have it delivered from the nearest city. He can simply download the design and print it. The days when projects ground to a halt for want of a piece of kit, or when customers complained that they could no longer find spare parts for things they had bought, will one day seem quaint.

Other changes are nearly as momentous. New materials are lighter, stronger and more durable than the old ones. Carbon fibre is replacing steel and aluminium in products ranging from aeroplanes to mountain bikes. New techniques let engineers shape objects at a tiny scale. Nanotechnology is giving products enhanced features, such as bandages that help heal cuts, engines that run more efficiently and crockery that cleans more easily. Genetically engineered viruses are being developed to make items such as batteries. And with the internet allowing ever more designers to collaborate on new products, the barriers to entry are falling. Ford needed heaps of capital to build his colossal River Rouge factory; his modern equivalent can start with little besides a laptop and a hunger to invent.

Like all revolutions, this one will be disruptive. Digital technology has already rocked the media and retailing industries, just as cotton mills crushed hand looms and the Model T put farriers out of work. Many people will look at the factories of the future and shudder. They will not be full of grimy machines manned by men in oily overalls. Many will be squeaky clean—and almost deserted. Some carmakers already produce twice as many vehicles per employee as they did only a decade or so ago. Most jobs will not be on the factory floor but in the offices nearby, which will be full of designers, engineers, IT specialists, logistics experts, marketing staff and other professionals. The manufacturing jobs of the future will require more skills. Many dull, repetitive tasks will become obsolete: you no longer need riveters when a product has no rivets.

The revolution will affect not only how things are made, but where. Factories used to move to low-wage countries to curb labour costs. But labour costs are growing less and less important: a $499 first-generation iPad included only about $33 of manufacturing labour, of which the final assembly in China accounted for just $8. Offshore production is increasingly moving back to rich countries not because Chinese wages are rising, but because companies now want to be closer to their customers so that they can respond more quickly to changes in demand. And some products are so sophisticated that it helps to have the people who design them and the people who make them in the same place. The Boston Consulting Group reckons that in areas such as transport, computers, fabricated metals and machinery, 10-30% of the goods that America now imports from China could be made at home by 2020, boosting American output by $20 billion-55 billion a year.

The shock of the new

Consumers will have little difficulty adapting to the new age of better products, swiftly delivered. Governments, however, may find it harder. Their instinct is to protect industries and companies that already exist, not the upstarts that would destroy them. They shower old factories with subsidies and bully bosses who want to move production abroad. They spend billions backing the new technologies which they, in their wisdom, think will prevail. And they cling to a romantic belief that manufacturing is superior to services, let alone finance.

None of this makes sense. The lines between manufacturing and services are blurring. Rolls-Royce no longer sells jet engines; it sells the hours that each engine is actually thrusting an aeroplane through the sky. Governments have always been lousy at picking winners, and they are likely to become more so, as legions of entrepreneurs and tinkerers swap designs online, turn them into products at home and market them globally from a garage. As the revolution rages, governments should stick to the basics: better schools for a skilled workforce, clear rules and a level playing field for enterprises of all kinds.

Leave the rest to the revolutionaries.

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#1. To: All, Brian S, We The People, hondo68, buckeroo, Ferret Mike, A K A Stone, Fibr Dog, CZ82, sneakypete, Thunderbird (#0)

I've seen the latest generation of 3D printers.

Not only can they print static 3D structures, they can print moving parts, like gears, within a 3D structure. It's a truly revolution technology.

The next generation will be able to print components made of super-strong nano- materials like buckyballs.

Here is the challenge to you reactionary 20th centuryists of the left and right... please tell us all how you are going to revive unskilled assembly line jobs, making middle class wages, when we are just going to be able replicate physical parts like we replicate software today.

Tell us how your plan works in the face of this revolutionary technology???

You can't tell us, because the 20th century model won't work.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-04-22   17:51:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0) (Edited)

This video represents the Model-T of 3D manufacturing.

Given today's rate of change, it won't take 100 years to get to a Ferrari. It will take 15 years.

15 years after that, traditional manufacturing will be dead.

You 20th century reactionaries of the left and right... please tell how we revive unskilled assembly line work as a middle class job...


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-04-22   17:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: jwpegler (#2)

So they will have Ferrari torrent sites? I want a space shuttle. And a launch pad.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-22   18:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jwpegler (#0)

.

3-D lithography, thick films, cold cast, linkable polymers, etc, are not new.

Their aggregation into even industrial user systems is.

You think that the world is filled with cheap crap now.

You ain't seen nothing, yet.

Wait until it turns into a 100% pos/retail end user system.

This model is well known in SciFi.

ONE problem is ...

Central control.

But, then YOU commies love that kind of opportunity for tyranny eh comarde?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-22   18:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: jwpegler (#2)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-22   18:04:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: jwpegler, *Ron Paul for President* (#1)

The next generation will be able to print components made of super-strong nano- materials like buckyballs.

Governments, however, may find it harder. Their instinct is to protect industries and companies that already exist, not the upstarts that would destroy them. They shower old factories with subsidies and bully bosses who want to move production abroad

Chinese buckyballs and Chinese printers? Can't we at least have a few people hammering these out on an assembly line in the US? Also mines, processing plants, smelters and so forth are required for the raw materials.

Get government out of the way and let the market decide. If China puts a tariff on US goods, we should put a bigger one on their goods, until they knock it off! Free trade is only free, when it's reciprocal. I'm not opposed to progress, but let's keep it real. IMO


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-22   18:13:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#3)

So they will have Ferrari torrent sites?

Excellent question! You get it. Ultimately yes, but...

You still have to afford the machine that prints nano-materials based on the design.

That will prohibitively expensive for a long while... but not forever.

Ever seen the Star Trek replicator? This is not exactly the same thing at all, but it's a reasonable approximation for discussion purposes.

In the 19th century, individual artisans created the products we needed.

In the 20th century, massive numbers of people on the assembly line did the same to serve enormously more numbers of customers.

The middle to late 21th century, we will combine digital models with nano- materials to build whatever we need, very fast, and relatively cheap, with very little manual labor.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-04-22   18:15:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#3)

I want a space shuttle. And a launch pad.

If Obama's going to have nukes, then I want some too!


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-22   18:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#0)

You are one of the best posters around. And you chose to post this article that is largely filled with lies.

I shall be back later to discuss my perspective in some detail.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-04-22   18:28:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#6) (Edited)

Chinese buckyballs and Chinese printers?

All of this technology is invented in the U.S.

The point is... cheap manual labor is going to become less and less important all of the time. That's why we need a workforce that is increasingly knowledgeable in engineering, science, and math...

Here's the problem -- both India and China graduate many times the numbers of engineers that the U.S. graduates every year.

We graduate the most lawyers... Think about it...

The U.S. still leads in innovation, but only because we allow graduate students from China, India, Russia, and other counties easy access to Masters and PhD programs in the U.S.

Fortunately for us, most of these people decide to stay in the U.S. and help us compete.

That's fine, but this is NOT a substitute for educating our own kids.

Unfortunately, the public (government monopoly) schools are failing miserably.

That's what we have to fix.

Anyone who has a vision of society based on the Hammer and Sickle aren't going to understand this.

Unfortunately, there are too many people (mostly on the left, but some on the right) who's heads are stuck in the middle 20th century.

That's the problem.

Look at this technology as the Model-T of 3D manufacturing. Then think about what will be possible 10, 20, and 30 years from now...

The possibilities are mind boggling.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-04-22   18:31:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#9)

you chose to post this article that is largely filled with lies.

The article I posted is factual.

Over the last 30 years, we've digitized: mail; the address book; the library; books; the phone; the phone book; music; movies; money, and more... and we've also enhanced all of these in ways that no one predicted, i.e., with global search...

We are on the verge of digitizing manufacturing.

In the future, computer technology + nano-technology will combine to usher in the digital manufacturing age.

I'm 53. I've had people in my family die at 75 to 95. I'm hoping that these technologies will help me get to 95 and beyond so that I can see what develops.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-04-22   18:47:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: jwpegler (#0)

I just watched a tv show today that featured a custom "bull pup" rifle stock made from plastic and printed in a 3-D printer. Still trying to wrap my machinist mind around this new reality.

I do agree with every conclusion the author of this piece came to,though. Especially the "Governments have always been lousy at picking winners" statement.

This is ALL inter-related to the push for global government and a cashless society because there are certain ugly truths that people are going to ignore and refuse to face up to. The prime one being the advance of technology means a HUGE loss of "monkey see-monkey do" jobs for the working poor with minimal skills and ability to learn complex skills. Not to mention totally uneducated and inbred 3rd Worlders who are mostly incapable of even learning minimal sophisticated skills that require thinking and making judgements.

What to do with and about these people is IMHO going to be THE question of prime importance of the 21st Century.

Will the coming Global Government,Inc follow the socialist dream of "sharing the wealth" by providing global housing,food stamps,and welfare checks for menial labor jobs? After all,production of new goods is going to be incredibly cheap and easy for the reasons highlighted in this thread. No huge capital outlay for new plants,new power-hungry machines,and shipping costs will also be greatly reduced. In terms of real cost,it will cost less than ever to provide a comfortable life for the poor.

There is not one chance in hell of this happening without population control being a part of it,though. GG,Inc is NOT going to allow these people to just lay around watching sat tv all day and breeding new parasites. This just isn't possible for practical reasons. You can bet your bippy there will be limits on family sizes,mandatory sterialization for people with low IQ's,and in some cases there will be mandatory abortions.

It matters not at all what you or I may think of this. Nobody is going to ask us. When the government becomes your mama and daddy,they make all the decisions.

In fact,the above may be the most hopeful prediction. Given the history of how dictatorial governments conduct themselves,there is a excellent (poor choice of words?) chance the population control methods chosen may be a tad less humane and sophisticated. Backwards people like jungle tribes living in remote places may just find all the "free food" and medical supplies given to them is laced with drugs to prevent pregnancies.

Or GG Inc,may even decide to just cut off all food and medical supplies to these people and leave them alone to die of diseases and starvation.

Yeah,there is still going to be a world-wide need for non-white collar workers to do the jobs like janitor,cook,waiter,bus driver,etc,etc,etc,but the days for the demand for factory workers is over. My GUESS is most of those jobs will be filled by the people living on the social system (gubmint housing,food,etc) looking to sweeten up their lifestyles a little with better housing,more status,or just more credits in their financial accounts.

Until the elites perfect androids,that is.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-22   19:11:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sneakypete (#12) (Edited)

Government has become your mommy and daddy for 100 years.

Both parties are culpable.

That's a huge issue. That's our challenge. It's been our challenge since before I was born.

But it doesn't have anything to do with the great new technologies that smart people are inventing.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-04-22   19:17:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: jwpegler (#7)

The middle to late 21th century, we will combine digital models with nano- materials to build whatever we need, very fast, and relatively cheap, with very little manual labor.

As long as you have an approved government-supplied debit and credit number and a permit to purchase.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-22   19:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: jwpegler (#13)

But it doesn't have anything to do with the great new technologies that smart people are inventing.

Of course it does because they are related. These new inventions WILL happen regardless of what you,I,or anyone else wants. Even regardless of what any government wants.

Where they are related is the government will control access to the inventions and the products and benefits of the inventions because that is what government does.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-22   19:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete, mcgowanjm (#12)

Interesting outlooks you have there petey. Thanks for sharing.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-22   19:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#14) (Edited)

As long as you have an approved government-supplied debit and credit number and a permit to purchase.

I understand your point, but the post is about how revolutionary the technology could be to our lives.

Sure, if we wind up in a government police state, all of this could be postponed for decades or even centuries, just like technology was postponed under Communism during the 20th century and also how technology was postponed by the Church during the Middle Ages in Europe.

I completely agree that governments of all stripes are evil. Governments have demonstrated their true nature for all to see. The challenge of our age is with the government monopoly schools... how can Americans can learn from their history, when their history is distorted or not even taught at all...

So, let's take a quick second to celebrate the human spirit and the how it continues to try to move us forward in-spite of government intervention to the contrary.

That was the point of my post about this very revolutionary technology, that has the potential to transform everything...


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-04-22   19:52:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Fred Mertz (#16)

Thanks,Fred. It's always good to hear people read what you write and find it interesting.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-22   20:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: jwpegler (#7)

You still have to afford the machine that prints nano-materials based on the design.

Not so.

TechShop is a membership-based workshop that provides members with access to tools and equipment, instruction, and a community of creative and supportive people so they can build the things they have always wanted to make.

You can think of TechShop like a fitness club, but with tools and equipment instead of exercise equipment. It is sort of like a Kinko's for makers, or a Xerox PARC for the rest of us.

TechShop is designed for everyone, regardless of their skill level. TechShop is perfect for inventors, makers, hackers, tinkerers, artists, roboteers, families, entrepreneurs, youth groups, FIRST robotic teams, arts and crafts enthusiasts, and anyone else who wants to be able to make things that they dream up but don't have the tools, space or skills. TechShop provides you with access to a wide variety of machinery and tools including milling machines and lathes, welding stations and a CNC plasma cutter, sheet metal working equipment, drill presses and band saws, industrial sewing machines, hand tools, plastic and wood working equipment including a 4' x 8' ShopBot CNC router, electronics design and fabrication facilities, Epilog laser cutters, tubing and metal bending machines, a Dimension SST 3-D printer, electrical supplies and tools, and pretty much everything you'd ever need to make just about anything. TechShop is for EVERYONE!

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-22   20:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: jwpegler (#17)

So, let's take a quick second to celebrate the human spirit and the how it continues to try to move us forward in-spite of government intervention to the contrary.

That really is an amazing accomplishment,isn't it?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-22   20:03:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: jwpegler (#17)

...just like technology was postponed under Communism during the 20th century...

We didn't think that in the 50s when the Soviets launched Sputnik.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-22   20:06:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: jwpegler (#11)

The article I posted is factual.

No, it isn't unless discussing Social Darwinism and Marx/Engels Communism with a wee bit of Freudian psycho-babble.

The first Industrial Revolution was created in America that was later used in England to enslave people into the communion of factory workers receiving a pittance for their labor.

The second Industrial Revolution was created in America because of WW2.

The third Industrial Revolution has already elapsed into cheap social networks for methods of non-productivity and methods of social decay. It has already created government control about individual creativity non-consistent with laws and regulations that are already the anti-thesis of the foundations fro and about the American nation.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-04-22   20:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#22)

No, it isn't unless discussing Social Darwinism and Marx/Engels Communism with a wee bit of Freudian psycho-babble

I'm just trying to discuss a really interesting technology and why it is going to replace an entrenched business process.

Marx, Darwin... they were early 20th century. They had no idea what digitization even was, let alone what it could achieve by itself let alone the possibilities combined with nano-technology.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-04-22   20:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: jwpegler (#23)

I'm just trying to discuss a really interesting technology and why it is going to replace an entrenched business process.

No, it won't because simultaneously with new technologies in America and around the world there is a GROWING urge by governments to control the same. Every other day, you hear a whisper of how governments can control you and family and just about everything that is based on the digital revolution.

Marx, Darwin... they were early 20th century. They had no idea what digitization even was, let alone what it could achieve by itself let alone the possibilities combined with nano-technology.

True, but their ideas are ingrained in modern science, government and the stalwart authoritarian idiots that run and embrace the major political parties to create an atmosphere of no-change while the popular status-quo reigns the governance of new technologies.

It is a never-ending-story; it always has been and technologies MUST be quelled before the minions realize there are other ideas about the way they live and their bastard overlords that control the show.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-04-22   21:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: jwpegler (#23)

Marx, Darwin... they were early 20th century.

I'm not sure what you mean by that - they both died in the 1880s.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-22   21:55:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: jwpegler (#1)

please tell us all how you are going to revive unskilled assembly line jobs

Who is going to build all the printers we're going to need?

LOL!

Fire up the machinery!

We The People  posted on  2012-04-23   6:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: lucysmom (#25)

I'm not sure what you mean by that..

Their ideas drove a big part of the 20th century.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-04-23   19:47:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo (#24)

Every other day, you hear a whisper of how governments can control you and family and just about everything that is based on the digital revolution.

Digital technologies have done more to free people than to enslave them.

30 years ago we were slaves to the bank teller, government granted phone monopoly, 2 local newspapers, 3 government licensed broadcast networks, and more...

Every part of our lives that has been disrupted by digital technologies is orders of magnitude better than it was previously.

Sure, government is trying to control this, just like they try to control everything else.

The distributed and global nature of digital networks makes it inherently uncontrollable. Sure, they'll try, but smart people will always be able to create technologies to stay several steps ahead of the idiot politicians and bureaucrats.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-04-23   19:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: jwpegler (#10)

The point is... cheap manual labor is going to become less and less important all of the time. That's why we need a workforce that is increasingly knowledgeable in engineering, science, and math...

There a lot of people that aren't cut out for science, engineering and math or college for that matter. And since there are only so many trade school related jobs, where do they find a job that pays a decent wage?

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-04-23   21:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: NewsJunky (#29)

There a lot of people that aren't cut out for science, engineering and math or college for that matter. And since there are only so many trade school related jobs, where do they find a job that pays a decent wage?

Market freedom means that's their problem.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-23   21:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: lucysmom (#30)

Market freedom means that's their problem.

Or it could mean that they start their own business.

I started my first business, literally, with less than a 1k investment.

We The People  posted on  2012-04-23   21:21:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: jwpegler (#28)

Sure, they'll try, but smart people will always be able to create technologies to stay several steps ahead of the idiot politicians and bureaucrats.

Good post, I have been following this technology for 20+ years, since the first laminated process was developed. And you are right, breakthroughs in technology have been an economic benefit to mankind. Manufacturing jobs will go the way of farming jobs -- from 50% of the population in 1920 to less than 3% today, due to the technology that revolutionized farming -- the tractor, chemical farming, milking machines, CO2 refrigeration, and transportation, etc. Freed from the land (often enough by force during the Great Oppression), men poured into factories to produce all the products we take for granted, making us all more comfortable, and working fewer hours to boot.

The factory has already changed dramatically in the last 30 years, and now jobbers, like machinists, will find themselves obsolete as the revolution in materials and "replicators" take over. Just as there are many small shops providing computer related services today, many smaller local manufacturers will be viable with this technology. Patent law will be the biggest barrier to entry for manufacturing with 3D digital technology, and that's the racket that the looters have been working on for the last several decades.

BTW, your quote is a grave mistake; you are underestimating the enemy. The Marxists centralizers have been doing very well over the last century. They have plenty of very talented (and wealthy) people who believe in their system working for them. There are no communications they can't listen in on, they don't even have to physically tap your landline phone anymore to listen in on it. I wouldn't trust bitcoin, in fact I believe it is a stalking horse to eliminate cash transactions. Unless there is a sea change in the acceptance of the overpopulation meme, the vast majority of humanity will be herded (and slaughtered) like cattle using technology to sterilize, kill, and control them.

Those who think that the Soviet Union, or even the NAZI's, failed have not taken a good look at the world today.

Anthem  posted on  2012-04-23   23:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Anthem (#32)

BTW, your quote is a grave mistake; you are underestimating the enemy. The Marxists centralizers have been doing very well over the last century. They have plenty of very talented (and wealthy) people who believe in their system working for them. There are no communications they can't listen in on, they don't even have to physically tap your landline phone anymore to listen in on it. I wouldn't trust bitcoin, in fact I believe it is a stalking horse to eliminate cash transactions. Unless there is a sea change in the acceptance of the overpopulation meme, the vast majority of humanity will be herded (and slaughtered) like cattle using technology to sterilize, kill, and control them.

Those who think that the Soviet Union, or even the NAZI's, failed have not taken a good look at the world today.

So you SAY.

But your credulous acceptance of the meme that will be one of the main means to herd people around belies your sincerity and truthfulness.

The so called "ECO" movement is a TOOL of GLOBAL TYRANNY, and YOU eat it up.

Why would that be "citizen"?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-24   2:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: sneakypete (#12)

I just watched a tv show today that featured a custom "bull pup" rifle stock made from plastic and printed in a 3-D printer. Still trying to wrap my machinist mind around this new reality.

I see you've been watching Sons of Guns.....

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-04-24   6:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: lucysmom (#21)

...just like technology was postponed under Communism during the 20th century... We didn't think that in the 50s when the Soviets launched Sputnik.

The only reason they were able to do that was because of what they took from Germany at the end of WW2..... That's how they get pretty much all they have is re-/reverse engineering things/technology they've stolen....

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-04-24   6:46:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: NewsJunky (#29)

There a lot of people that aren't cut out for science, engineering and math or college for that matter. And since there are only so many trade school related jobs, where do they find a job that pays a decent wage?

Isn't that a question better posed to the Socialist/Communist/Fascist Masters to answer???? Oh that's right I forgot they don't care about anybody but themselves and people stupid enough to vote for them, so don't expect a coherent answer just a bullet......

They've caused this mess they should have to answer for it, but for some reason I don't think that'll happen, at least not in my lifetime.... too many sheeple in this country!!!!

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-04-24   6:52:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: CZ82 (#35)

The only reason they were able to do that was because of what they took from Germany at the end of WW2....

and we didn't?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-24   9:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: CZ82 (#36)

... too many sheeple in this country!!!!

Yep, and you're one of them.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-24   9:44:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: lucysmom' CZ82 (#37)

and we didn't?

I guess all those deals we offered to German scientists after WWII in Operation Paper Clip didn't count.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-24   14:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: lucysmom (#37)

The only reason they were able to do that was because of what they took from Germany at the end of WW2....

and we didn't?

We did, but we kept using and expanding on what knowledge we got from the Nazi's... But it seems like the Commies either couldn't figure out how to keep using that knowledge, or they decided stealing others technology was easier.... OR..... maybe it was both because they weren't teaching people to critically think or think outside the Commie Mantra box!!!! (Kinda like our current school systems)....

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-04-24   16:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lucysmom (#38)

... too many sheeple in this country!!!!

Yep, and you're one of them.

You're the one who votes for Leftards/Morons not me....

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-04-24   16:55:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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