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#753. To: All (#752)

www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31079.htm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   11:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#754. To: Fred Mertz (#744)

I remember all those items. Here we are 10 plus years later...

Been doing this from the Day after 2001.

This is the first time I've been able to access an easily watched vid...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   11:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#755. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#7. To: Robin (#6)

You can tell when the USSA is in Epic Fail mode.

They used to roll out Missing White Girls...and War on drugs... now it's Al Qaeda Bomb...BOO.

Even as the USSAtv wasted at least the 1st 4-5 minutes of air time yesterday the plot has already been exposed....Lulz...;}

'Underwear bomber' was working for the CIA Paul Harris and Ed Pilkington in New York

Bomber involved in plot to attack US-bound jet was working as an informer with Saudi intelligence and the CIA, it has emerged

May 8, 2012

F-22 production stopped long ago by LittleHelper on 09.05.2012 [02:48 ] There exist only about 150 of those F-22 fighter jets. Production stopped some time ago, because the US Department of defense has been running out of funds to finance development of them. The US now are concentrating on the F-35 fighter jet, which is the successor of the F-22 in the JSF program. Its development costs are also spiralling out of control, and it's very questionable, whether the F-35 really will be built in large numbers some day.

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Without the pillars of austerity and "structural adjustment", there is very little justification for the ECB or Germany to continue backstopping the peripheral finances of the Eurozone. It's not as if the consumers or businesses in these countries can even afford to buy Germany's exports anymore, as made all too clear by Rajoy's comments, and the failure of peripheral banks is all but guaranteed. When a financial institution such as Bankia is bailed out, make no mistake - there will be no one able or willing to bail out the Spanish Treasury.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-09   8:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#756. To: All (#755)

Update: Here we go - SPAIN TO NATIONALIZE BANKIA LATER TODAY - ABC

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-09   9:50:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#757. To: All (#756)

How one could make a film about 911 and not say anything about Israel is beyond me. One would have to intentionally avoid it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-09   10:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#758. To: A K A Stone (#0)

USSA gives Israel one billion for Arrow missile.

Cuts food stamps and free lunches to children here.

F-35 to cost over $Trillion. Will be substandard to what we have now.

Pilots refuse to fly F-22. Oxygen goes out at the worst time. Kills them.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#759. To: All (#758) (Edited)

"The consequences of the end of these two empires can’t be dealt with on the battlefield, as the long debate over the shape of America’s human ecology was, and it can’t be dealt with by jerry-rigging a set of temporary expedients to overcome the mismatch between real wealth and a dysfunctional financial system, as the crisis of the Great Depression was. It will require massive changes in every aspect of American life, starting with a steep decline in standards of living and the forced abandonment of privileges most Americans think of as theirs by right."

-Archdruid Report

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#760. To: All (#759)

"the Greek political complex has become much too rigid and reactionary for the Eurocrats to manage."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#761. To: All (#760)

"And today we have the news that the American ambassador here in Pakistan has actually cut short his assignment here and flown back to Washington because basically the American diplomats here too are complaining that the US military and the CIA are out of control. They do the hard work; they try to work with the Afghan government and the Pakistani government. But when it comes to the US military and the CIA, they destroy everything."

So basically what you see happening right now in Kabul is that President Karzai is in the same position as the US State Department and the US diplomats are in Kabul, which is basically: they cannot trust the US military, they cannot trust the CIA.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:25:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#762. To: All (#761)

RT: Just about a week ago we had the American President there congratulating his troops on a job well done saying that they are in a process of having peace talks with Taliban, although they are also targeting the Taliban. Is that just a political rhetoric? I thought America was winning a war on terror?

AQ: Absolutely not. I think the Americans are facing an embarrassing defeat in Afghanistan. The civilian deaths we are seeing right now in Afghanistan are one sign of their desperation. They are using all out disproportionate force really to get at what they see as Afghan resistance or Afghan fighters. "

Russia Today (They should know;)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#763. To: All (#762) (Edited)

They take us for fools....;}

' Obama Sends US Special Ops Back into Yemen by John Glaser

"The Pentagon claims they're being sent to train Yemeni forces

May 9, 2012

The Pentagon announced Tuesday it is sending U.S. troops back to Yemen to train Yemeni security forces in a final indication that Washington has been successful in maintaining the status quo, despite a still-active protest movement vying for reform."

The reason for the latest failed false flag.

Another in the Perpetual War before the Inevitable Collapse.

"It is likely that the role of these troops goes well beyond the "routine training" claimed by the Pentagon spokesman, which would mark yet another instance where Obama sends U.S. soldiers into action abroad without the consent of Congress or the American people."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#764. To: All (#763)

Why they hate us...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#765. To: All (#764)

Putin to skip G8 summit, talks with Obama in US Russia's newly-inaugurated President Vladimir Putin speaks during a reception marking Victory Day at the Kremlin in Moscow, on May 9, 2012.Thu May 10, 2012 8:13AM GMT

Russia’s newly-inaugurated President Vladimir Putin has pulled out of the Group of Eight summit in Maryland, US, and ice-breaker talks with US President Barack Obama next week, the Kremlin says.

Raising new questions about Moscow-Washington ties, Putin, who took the oath as the new Russian leader on Monday, informed Obama of his decision during a telephone call on Wednesday.

He noted the need to stay in Moscow to finalize cabinet appointments in the new Russian government, citing he will send Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev in his place. "

..........;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#766. To: All (#765)

The consequences of the end of these two empires can’t be dealt with on the battlefield, as the long debate over the shape of America’s human ecology was, and it can’t be dealt with by jerry-rigging a set of temporary expedients to overcome the mismatch between real wealth and a dysfunctional financial system, as the crisis of the Great Depression was. It will require massive changes in every aspect of American life, starting with a steep decline in standards of living and the forced abandonment of privileges most Americans think of as theirs by right."

About 49% of Americans say they aren't contributing to any retirement plan, according to a new survey conducted by LIMRA, a trade association for the financial services industry.-CNN

Let;s just call it 50%....;}

Reword: They don't have a retirement plan. They don't have a $1000.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:57:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#767. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Someone ought to pay me for this.....;}

" Spain Nationalizes BFA and 45% of Bankia; No Bid for CatalunyaCaixa, Bank Worth Less Than Zero; Der Spiegel: Germany Fears "Bottomless Pit"

The implosion in Spanish banks continues. On Wednesday, Spain nationalized BFA, the 8th nationalization since the start of the crisis.

After sinking 3 billion into CatalunyaCaixa, Spain tried to privatize the mess but there were no offers at zero euros. Clearly CatalunyaCaixa bank is worth less than zero.

Meanwhile Der Spiegel reports "Bundesbank has no idea of what is happening in Spanish banks". Mish readers do. The Spanish banking system is without a doubt bankrupt."

-mish

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#768. To: All (#767)

The Spanish banking system is without a doubt bankrupt."

Not Bankrupt. Insolvent....Big Difference.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#769. To: All (#768)

What we’ve been seeing in the last ten days in the EU as a whole is growing evidence that banking debt exposure to intrabank loan clients and ownership of ClubMed subsidiaries are vying with sovereign debt to be uppermost in the minds of nervous investors. And sources in an around Mario Draghi’s ECB continue to hint that the Italian Stallion is nearly out of oats when it comes to eurobank support.

This is partly because all his ‘money’ (loose and somewhat inaccurate term) is going into manipulation of the bond markets discreet purchases of excess bonds left lying around in places like, for example, Spain. The bond yields there on 10-year notes went above 6% again yesterday.

Spain is going to go bang pretty soon. At this rate, there won’t be any FiskalPakt applicants remaining solvent by the time the Fuhrerin gets it together. (And in Ireland, the tide is turning against FP ‘Yes’ campaigners)."

-hat4uk

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#770. To: All (#769)

Germany Fears "Bottomless Pit"

Der Spiegel reports "The Bundesbank has no idea of what is happening in Spanish banks

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#771. To: All (#770)

Spain is going to go bang pretty soon. At this rate, there won’t be any FiskalPakt applicants remaining solvent by the time the Fuhrerin gets it together. (And in Ireland, the tide is turning against FP ‘Yes’ campaigners).

Credit Agricole owns 20% of commercial bank Bankinter SA, Spain’s sixth largest bank. The bank has been hit hard by the Troika-aggravated recession in Spain, the shares having declined some 30 per cent over the last 12 months. Spain’s biggest seven banks need €68 billion of additional capital as a buffer against bad loans, and to meet regulatory requirements, according to RBS. All this is the sort of information that (a) demonstrates multivariate contagion and (b) why investors remain acutely aware of CreditAg’s very high level of exposure on several fronts.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#772. To: All (#771)

Bottomless Pit is Exactly Correct

Spain, like Greece before it, is indeed a bottomless pit.

This is not a problem any amount of austerity or reforms can fix. Is Spain going to come up with 200 billion euros to support a trillion in bad loans?

Here is the answer: Not now, not ever, never.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#773. To: All (#772) (Edited)

The next time you see a coke commercial....;}

if you drink large amounts of soda every day you are going to gain weight and you are likely to damage your health.

Sadly, even though we know this, the average American still consumes over 600 12-ounce servings of soda per year.

Is it any wonder that we have an obesity epidemic in America?

Did you know that people living in the United States are three times more likely to have diabetes than people living in the United Kingdom?

It is not a mystery why this is happening.

It is because of our unhealthy diets.

The food we eat is killing us.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#774. To: All (#773)

What more do you need to know:

Poll: US Opposition to Afghan War Hits New High Opposition Levels Unseen Since Vietnam War by Jason Ditz, May 09, 2012 Print This | Share This

A new AP/Gfk poll is showing that the trend of opposition to the Afghan War continues, with an overwhelming 66% of Americans now opposed to the conflict, with only 8 percent of Americans remaining “strongly” in support of it.

The AP compared the poll to a late 1971 poll on the Vietnam War, which showed 65% of Americans opposed to continuing that war. But while the US was slowly beginning its withdrawal from Vietnam at that time, President Obama is just one week off of signing a deal to keep US troops occupying Afghanistan through 2024.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#775. To: A K A Stone (#0)

SURPRISE

[After Hours: 37.95-2.79 (-6.85%) 6:49P EST]

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JPMorgan has $2 billion trading loss, reputation hit

What reputation was that? It called Geithner and the US treasury cut a check.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   19:10:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#776. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Also down by 4% to a mere $4.6bn were JP Morgan’s profits. While wondering how on earth they were going to manage on that going forward, my eye fell across a piece in the Journal telling how five US equity investment firm owners would be taking home a bonus of $94m each at the end of March. Bruce Willis diverting that asteroid and dying in the process…that made him worth $94m for the job. But nobody else is worth $94m for a year’s work. Nobody. And anyone who thinks so is a sadly damaged human being."

From February, 2012 -hat4uk

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:45:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#777. To: All (#776)

Homo sapiens does not have the ability to make fundamental changes in its behavior. Nor is Homo sapiens much interested in the truth about itself.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:46:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#778. To: All (#777)

All those fake numbers being put out by Wall Street, the government and CNBC showing magical growth on the Ponzi paper digit (Alice in Wonderland) side of the equation must be juxtaposed against the real world manufacturing economy that has been in decline for 30 years.

This is the 30 year digital/Ponzi-paper inflation crescendo that has finally crested and, like an ocean wave, will curl over and break. This is also the 30 year engineered interest rate decline that has finally reached its nadir, 0%!

fofoa.blogspot.com/2009/09/end-of-currency.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:50:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#779. To: A K A Stone, All (#778) (Edited)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:53:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#780. To: All (#779)

Let me try and rationalise that apparently intolerant statement. Had anyone come to me in corporate life and said they needed $94m to stay interested in the business, I’d have expressed sympathy for their plight, and fired them. $94m isn’t a bonus, it’s a bonanza leveraged into a bazooka for a bonehead who somehow puts a value on the ownership of meaningless amounts of money. Except, of course, money brings power – and that’s what these reptiles really want.

Note the reptile 'thinking' reference.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#781. To: All (#780)

What did I say at the top? "Rising demand for easy money causes rising interest rates..." So what does a zero Fed Funds rate say? Zero demand for worthless money? I don't know. You tell me.

Here is what I see: 30 years of digital/financial Ponzi-paper inflation has gradually decreased the efficiency of all capital investment, everywhere! Mal-investment is so ubiquitous now that it cannot even be distinguished! Confidence in the future is at an ALL TIME LOW! And mass-confusion about inflation, deflation, stagflation, etc... is at an ALL TIME HIGH! We have truly built our own Tower of Babel!

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#782. To: All (#781)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cvdgPlEKW9k/SqRnntuJ1KI/AAAAAAAAArQ/H7uQrGQFhMM/s400/Down.jpg

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#783. To: All (#781)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   7:58:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#784. To: All (#783)

And so we come roundabout to today's news of JP MORGAN.

The Greatest bank in the USSA.

Normally a 6% drop in a stock is underwhelming.

But in JPM's case we have the Inverted Pyramid above.

That IS JPMorgan's Strategic Play.

There's a very good reason you don;t see Inverted Pyramids in Nature.

They're extremely unstable.

A gust of wind and they topple.

JPM just experienced a gentle gust.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   8:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#785. To: All (#784)

"The two reasons I’m rarely satirical about neocon economics is (a) it’s bad form, and lousy sport, to shoot ducks in a barrel; and (b) the effects of such braindead thinking are every bit as destructive as the ramblings of old Beardy Marx. This stuff can be funny – up to a point. After that point, it’s damned irritating…especially if you’re one of the poor folks. Ronald Reagan remains one of the most revered US Presidents because he cut taxes to create super-wealth which, he said, would trickle down. Well, it didn’t: it gushed upwards into f**kwitted $94m bonuses. "

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   8:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#786. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The problem for JPM is it was the flagship for carrying the massive market manipulation that began the day before Thanksgiving Week end.

And now that 'zombie' trendline has been busted all to hell.

The Techy term is the 200 Day MA (Moving Average) has been violated..... :? 8-) :twisted:

Such an innocuous term 'violated'.

www.barchart.com/cache/44...d1b45efc805b4ca4c63a3.png

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   9:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#787. To: A K A Stone (#0)

11 May 2012 JP Morgan Failure Shows the Incompetency of the Fed As Regulator And a Corrupted Government

The spin machine is revving up, and the spokesmodels are gesticulating wildly, in an effort to direct and deflect this failure of governance at JPM.

See how manfully Jamie Dimon has come clean on this. And look how well the Fed's capital standards are protecting us from a failure at JPM because of this unfortunate but 'manageable' trading mistake. This will be a buying opportunity!

jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-11   10:59:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#788. To: A K A Stone (#0)

HSBC has a derivative exposure of $4.321 Trilion dollars. HSBC is a Hong Kong based bank and its original name is The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited.

You will find HSBC working a lot with JP Morgan Chase.

Both HSBC and JP Morgan Chase have strong interest in gold & precious metals. HSBC and JP Morgan Chase are often involved together in financial scandals.

Lately HSBC has been sued for allegedly funneling more than $8.9 billion to the largest ponzi-scheme in history - Bernie Maddof's investment business. HSBC (along w/ JP Morgan Chase) has been sued for alleged conspiracy suppressing the price of silver and gold, partially through precious metal DERIVATIVES and making billions of dollars on it.

State of Hawaii is suing HSBC (and other banks) for deceptive credit card lending practices. DZ Bank in Germany is suing HSBC (and JP Morgan) for deceptive (lying) practices when selling home-loan-backed securities.

HSBC is also under investigation for laundering billions of dollars. Bank of New York Mellon - Derivative Exposure Goldman Sachs

Goldman Sachs has a derivative exposure of $44.192 Trillion dollars. The $1 Trillion pillars towers are double-stacked @ 930 feet (248 m). The White House is standing next to the Statue of Liberty.

Goldman Sachs has advantage over other banks because it has awesome connections in US Government. A lot of former Goldman employees hold high-level US Government positions (chart).

Mitt Romney's top donor is Goldman Sachs, and one of Obama's best donors. Ex-CEO of Goldman Sachs, Hank Paulson became the Secretary of Treasury under Bush and during the 2008 financial crisis authored the TARP bill demanding $700 billion bail-out.

In UK, Goldman Sachs escaped £10 million bill on a failed tax avoidance scheme with help of good connections. The bank is the largest player in the food commodities market, earned $955m from food speculation in 2009" - That's your $$$.

Goldman Sachs employees are arming themselves with guns in case there is a populist uprising against the bank. Goldman Sachs calls their investors "muppets". and use clients to make money for themselves, disregarding the clients.

The bank was fined $22 million for sharing valuable nonpublic information with top clients (Think insider trading with best clients). Goldman Sachs was part-owner America's leading website for prostitution ads until the ownership stake was exposed.

Goldman Sachs helped Greece conceal its debt with secret loans, while simultaneously taking advantage of Greece. Goldman Sachs got a $814 billion SECRET bailout from the Federal Reserve during the 2008 crisis.

Goldman Sachs got $10 billion of the 2008 TARP bailout, and in the same year paid $10.9 billion in employee compensation and "benefits", while paying a tax rate of 1%. That means an average of $327,000 to each Goldman Sach's employee.

Just sayin'.....;}

-Demon ocracy.....the Rule of Demons

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-12   7:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#789. To: All (#788)

JP Morgan Chase (JPM)

JP Morgan Chase has a derivative exposure of $70.151 Trillion dollars. $70 Trillion is roughly the size of the entire world's economy. The $1 Trillion dollar towers are double-stacked @ 930 feet (248 m).

JP Morgan is rumored to hold 50->80% of the copper market, and manipulated the market by massive purchases. JP Morgan (JPM) is also guilty of manipulating the silver market to make billions.

In 2010 JP Morgan had 3 perfect trading quarters and only lost money on 8 days. Lawsuits on home foreclosures have been filed against JP Morgan. Aluminum price is manipulated by JP Morgan through large physical ownership of material and creating bottlenecks during transport. JP Morgan was among the banks involved in the seizure of $620 million in assets for alleged fraud linked to derivatives.

JP Morgan got $25 billion taxpayer in bailout money. It has no intention of using the money to lend to customers, but instead will use it to drive out competition.

The bank is also the largest owner of BP - the oil spill company. During the oil spill the bank said that the oil spill is good for the economy. JP Morgan Chase also received a SECRET $391 billion dollar bailout from the Federal Reserve.

In 2012, JP Morgan (JPM) took a $2 billion loss on "Poorly Executed" Derivative Bets. Bank of New York Mellon - Derivative Exposure 9 Biggest Banks' Derivative Exposure - $228.72 Trillion

Note the little man standing in front of white house. The little worm next to lastfootball field is a truck with $2 billion dollars.

There is no government in the world that has this kind of money. This is roughly 3 times the entire world economy. The unregulated market presents a massive financial risk. The corruption and immorality of the banks makes the situation worse.

If you don't want to bank with these banks, but want to have access to free ATM's anywhere-- most Credit Unions in USA are in the CO-OP ATM network, where all ATM's are free to any COOP CU member and most support depositing checks. The Credit Unions are like banks, but invest all their profits to give members lower rates and better service. They don't have shareholders to worry about or have derivatives to purchase and sell.

Keep an eye out in the news for "derivative crisis", as the crisis is inevitable with current falling value of most real assets. Derivative Data Source: ZeroHedge

demonocracy.info/infograp...atives/bank_exposure.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-12   7:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#790. To: All (#789)

Let's see, the average couple is going to need nearly a quarter of a million dollars to cover their health care costs in retirement, and yet half of all American adults have no retirement savings of any kind, let alone for health care.

This will not end well.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-12   8:05:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#791. To: All (#790)

RawStory: Geraldo Rivera: I was ‘manually raped’ by the TSA Fox News host Geraldo Rivera on Friday claimed that an employee of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) had “manually raped” him and “was getting off on it.”

Then they took the 18 month terrorist baby off the plane.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-12   8:25:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#792. To: All (#791)

PeakOil.com: OPEC oil production climbs to 31.71 million barrels per day in April | Peak Oil News and Message Boards - The latest Platts’ monthly survey of OPEC production shows two highly significant trends: sanctions are starting to pinch Iranian output, and other OPEC countries are stepping in to fill the gap.

Which means that Non OPEC dropped to 42.5 MMBD.

Because World Production is flat at best....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-12   8:30:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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