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#980. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#970)

The constant stirring strains of "the International" wafting through the night.

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   14:47:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#981. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#971)

libTURD gibber jabber OH LOOK!

DEAD and MANGLED AMERICANS!

libTURD JOY at the death and mangleing of AMERICANS

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   14:50:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#982. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#972)

"facts" pulled from mctoejams big fat ass. No citation EVER needed when the libTURD FILTH make shit up out of whole cloth.

LYING, HYPOCRITE, slack jawed brain DEAD libTURD asswipes

Tell us all again about how YOU are "superior" to your "brother" who you claim died at Anzio CREEP.

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   14:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#983. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#973)

libTURD angst at their little cowardly metro sexual rapist hero being BUSTED.

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   14:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#984. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#974)

The fevered hallucinations of an inferior mind.

The libTURD lickspittle dogma and talking points of the true libTURD believer.

The typical CLARITY and FACT based blather of the messiah "king" obammy's BIGGEST fan mctoejam.

CONSTANT anal dripping, (which pass for "wisdom" among libTURDS), from this foul COWARDLY insane libTURD asshole

HEY you gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   15:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#985. To: A K A Stone (#0)

If “consumers” aren’t driving.....they aren't spending.

$82 handle on oil now.

Nothing's changed since Friday.

Forbes only last week wrote this in relation to what Obama should do about Spain:

“An American President would know how to say to Angela Merkel – if you do not compromise, if you do not resolve this, then we will begin sidelining your companies from our high speed rail projects; we will make it tough for you to sell luxury cars; we will review procurement procedures to eliminate your companies from our public tenders. We will not relent until you do.”

There is no way the electioneering Obama could be seen to be weak on euro-contagion, and so he has acted. Good for his campaign, bad for the Pentagon and the oil business who had other plans for Greece…and if the truth be known, still do.

As always with Berlin, however, there’s a catch: the Chancellery signalled that it may be open to euro-zone bonds or further support for the region’s banking sector, but that would depend on other countries agreeing to transfer more power to Brussels."

http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-04   8:58:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#986. To: Mad Dog (#984)

Takes alot of effort, MD....;}

Hope those checks keep comin'.....;}

Hell is here.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-04   8:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#987. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The world is waiting to re-learn an old lesson: that untruth and reality exist in an adversarial relationship. Sad to say, there isn't enough legal infrastructure in the world, nor enough time, to pass judgment on all the lies and misrepresentations that burden the current edition of what passes for civilization. "

-kunstler

"Those of us who are peak oil aware should recognize that the most glaring indicator screaming out a bright red alert of an approaching crash has been the rapid plunge of oil prices over the past couple of months. On Friday, Brent crude dropped below $100 after touching $125 in March, while WTI plummeted to $83 after briefly topping $110 three months ago (remember those breathless $5.00-a-gallon gas by summer predictions that appeared in the mainstream media at the time? How silly do they look now?)."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-04   9:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#988. To: All (#987)

In the new tally by the National Climatic Data Center, Oklahoma's average temperature last summer was 86.9 degrees, while Texas finished with 86.7 degrees. The previous record for the hottest summer was 85.2 degrees set in 1934 — in Oklahoma. "I'm from Oklahoma, and when you talk about the summer of 1934, there are a lot of connotations that go with that," said Deke Arndt, chief of the NCDC's climate monitoring branch in Asheville, N.C. "That whole climate episode — the Dust Bowl — that is a point in our state's history that we still look back to as transformative." Yet the summer of 2011, "was warmer than all those summers that they experienced during the Dust Bowl," Arndt said.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-04   9:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#989. To: All (#988)

"In a somewhat stunning report from Der Spiegel, Israel is arming up to six new German-made submarines with nuclear weapons. These subs are being built in Germany and it turns out the helpful German government has known of this Israeli nuclearization for decades - despite official denial (more lying when it matters we presume). "

With the 75th largest economy in the world.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-04   9:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#990. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The world is waiting to re-learn an old lesson: that untruth and reality exist in an adversarial relationship. Sad to say, there isn't enough legal infrastructure in the world, nor enough time, to pass judgment on all the lies and misrepresentations that burden the current edition of what passes for civilization.

finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=CL&cot=067651&p=m5

For all the epic volume of blather on the Internet and elsewhere, few have even remarked on extraordinary passivity of the vulgar masses in the face of having their future looted out from under them. The ethos of the penitentiary must have saturated the zeitgeist wherein you are expected to just bend over and take it good and hard where the sun don't shine and then you are rewarded with a baloney sandwich. At least that's been the theme since 2008. "

-kunstler

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-04   9:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#991. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#990)

you are expected to just bend over and take it good and hard where the sun don't shine and then you are rewarded with a baloney sandwich. At least that's been the theme since 2008. "

Yes, the "crab bucket" syndrome.

CRAB BUCKET SYNDROME

By Greg Griffin

One day I was walking along the Washington Beach, the black beach in Washington, North Carolina with my father. I was about eight years old. I noticed a man with a bucket of crabs. The crab bucket did not have a top on it. I asked my father why the crabs were not able to escape. My father’s explanation taught me a valuable lesson.

My father said, “If there was only one crab in the bucket it would certainly escape. However, when there is more than one crab in the bucket, if one tries to crawl out, the other crabs would grab hold and pull it back down so that it would share the same fate as the rest of them.”

This is true with people. If one person attempts to better himself, other people will attempt to drag him back down to share their fate. My father said, “ You must ignore the crabs if you want to be a success in life.

A few weekends ago a close friend called me early in the morning laughing. He told me that he had been at a local Montgomery, Alabama Barbershop when my name along with several other persons was dragged through the mud. “Griffin, There was a man in the Barber Shop and he said that, “The three biggest Uncle Toms in Montgomery are Larry Armstead (Mayor Bobby Bright’s right hand man), Sidney Williams (Chairman of the Alabama Board of Pardons and Paroles) and Greg Griffin (Chief Counsel for the Parole Board).” The man had no basis for his accusations. He went on to say derogatory things about Judge Charles Price, Representative John Knight and several other prominent black Montgomerians .

I don’t want to sound like a self-aggrandizing jackass, but I was somewhat flattered to be thrown in with these successful men. My thoughts immediately returned to what my father had told me when I was a child. This man was nothing more than a crab.

This gentleman had obviously given up on his quest to climb life’s peaks. He found his comfort in tearing down other prominent black men that he presumed had made it. He simply had the mentality that “If he can’t have it, then neither can you.”

My friend told me the man’s name. We share a mutual friend. My friend assured me that if I met him I couldn’t be angry with him. I thought about telling the other people what the man said, but later decided to let it ride. He will eventually say something about the wrong person and they will slap him with a slander suit. According to my friend, he even accused one prominent person whose name I will not mention in this article of being arrested in the Oak Park restroom.

Do you know crab people? Have you attempted to better yourself only to have family and friends to discourage you? Watch out for the crab syndrome.

I would like to recommend a book entitled The Fountainhead, by the Russian/American novelist Ayn Rand. In her introduction to the book, she tells the reader that, “Some give up at the first touch of pressure; some sell out; some run down by imperceptible degrees & lose their fire, never knowing when or how they lost it…Yet a few hold on & move on, knowing that fire is not to be betrayed, learning how to give it shape, purpose & reality. But whatever their future, at the dawn of their lives, men seek a noble vision of man’s nature & life’s potential. There are very few guideposts to find.

Why this man thinks that I am one of the three biggest uncle toms in Montgomery, I do not know. But I can tell you, this man should read Mathew 20:13-15 and Acts 5:4. He should abandon the politics of envy, and kiss the son, lest he be angry, and perish.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-04   11:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#992. To: mcgowanjm (#986)

Takes alot of effort, MD....;}

Hope those checks keep comin'.....;}

Hell is here.

It's no effort at all SCUM.

Paid? You're the gooberment WHORE SCUM. YOU are the one who LIVES OFF OF THE TAXPAYERS SCUM, not ME.

I don't get paid by ANY gooberment or anybody else SCUM.

I do this because I LOVE AMERICA and I DESPISE YOU and YOUR ILK SCUM.

btw SCUM "hell" isn't here yet, THAT'S what you libTURD CUNTS are TRYING to force onto America and AMERICANS right NOW you gibbering piece of wannabe tyrannical SHIT.

=.=

You gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-04   13:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#993. To: mcgowanjm (#988)

mctoejam's blather

=.=

You gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-04   13:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#994. To: mcgowanjm (#989)

JEW HATING libTURD dogma libTURD BLATHER

=.=

You gibbering libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP!

Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam?

Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam?

Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit?

You called the game SCUM.

So ....

Lets PLAY SCUM.

SPIT ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-04   13:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#995. To: redleghunter, mctoejam (#991)

Do you know crab people? Have you attempted to better yourself only to have family and friends to discourage you? Watch out for the crab syndrome.

That is EXACTLY what mctoejam IS.

That's what ALL libTURDS are.

But it doesn't mean shit all to MOST mature Americans.

Because job ONE of ANY human being is to be REAL, to be yourself.

FTW

IF that's where you are coming from, such losers do not matter.

Be happy for other's success.

ENCOURAGE and SUPPORT folks who seek their own dreams.

Ignore or sneer at and ridicule LOSERS such as mctoejam who spends so much time telling himself things are impossible that they are, for HIM.

These people are UN-AMERICAN.

AMERICANS don't believe that anything is "impossible". WE do the "impossible" EVERY F'ing day.

"In the beginning there was the WORD."

"LEAD, FOLLOW, or get the HELL OUT OF THE WAY!"

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-04   13:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#996. To: redleghunter (#991)

.

btw I'm going off line now to go do something IMPOSSIBLE, (well at least IMPOSSIBLE for libTURD WHORES such as mctoejam anyhow.)

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-04   13:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#997. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#204. To: All (#0)

Helicopter downed in Helmand battle; 30 US-NATO invaders killed Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Monday, 14 Rajab 1433 Monday, 04 June 2012 15:58

HELMAND, Jun. 04 – The fighting broke out after the a large number invaders dropped off by the helicopters pressed ahead with an offensives in Baghran district of Helmand province at about 2:00 a.m. local time and continued all through Monday in which several dozen of the invaders have been killed or wounded so far.

According to a new report, Mujahideen shot down a helicopter amid fighting today killing more than 30 invaders in Baghran district of this province. The wreckage of the struck helicopter along with the corpses and the wounded are still lying at the scene.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-06-05 7:21:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #205. To: All (#204)

Breaking:

NATO secures Exit Route from the Afghans.

I didn't know that leaving was a problem....;}

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   7:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#998. To: redleghunter (#991)

I would like to recommend a book

I also.

But no one will pay me to do so....;}

And this is Planet HEll...where everything bends to Power.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   7:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#999. To: All (#994)

Lil boy playing with matches.

Over a can of gasoline.

Everyone knows the results.

Well, maybe not everyone.

The modern tradition of concerns about an impending decline of resource extraction began in 1865 with Victorian economist William Stanley Jevons (1835–1882), who concluded that falling coal output must spell the end of Britain’s national greatness as it is “of course…useless to think of substituting any other kind of fuel for coal.” Substitute oil for coal in the last sentence and you get the erroneous foundations of the doomsday sentiment shared by the peak-oil catastrophists.

peakoil.com/consumption/the-end-of-cheap-oil-7/

dawn.com/2012/06/04/nato-...als-through-central-asia/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   7:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1000. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Note to ZioFundies:

The following predates the Beginning of your Religion's Civilization....it's a Power thing....;}

Picasso Moon wrote:Money, be it paper, material(e.g. gold) or electronic, is a FETISH, nothing more than an increasingly inaccurate representation of value. http://www.dailybattle.pair.com/2012/occupy_target_destroy_ruling_money_fetish.shtml

Yes, PO, as well as the quickly-accelerated crisis of the biosphere, make this economic collapse very different from the 1910s and 1930s, make any "recovery" pretty much impossible even with a global war.

Well, yes, but until we can light fires with lightening bolts from our hands, or live like First Nation as Hunter/Gatherers, then Economic Collapse is Peak Oil.

As Debt is Information Over run based on Energy Return on Future Consumption.

As Every Civiliation before can attest.

The only difference this time is the Extremely High EROEI we've enjoyed this last 150 years. Note the MAny Parabolic Curves that have resulted and which are now coming back down to Baseline.

The Pop Curve the biggest Example. 400 million humans by 2120.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   7:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1001. To: mcgowanjm (#1000) (Edited)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   8:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1002. To: A K A Stone (#1001) (Edited)

All the above wasted, as I'm done reading the bible. But maybe you could interest your lap dog, MD, in some of it. The bible does have some interesting quotes on manners....;}

Power Over Religion.

Like Fukushima/Onogawa over JApan....;}

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Post Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:22 am by mcgowanjm Re: Mounting signs of deepening global slump

Post Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:22 am by mcgowanjm

Foster wrote:It is sort of morbidly fascinating to watch and see that the ride down the right side of the per-capita energy consumption curve, in most manifesting ways, translates (itself in)to "war on the working class." That could also be the "haves" trying to guarantee that they and theirs remain haves. Aside from ancient and tiny groups, is it possible to escape the effects of greed?

No... :twisted:

Because this is Planet Hell.

There is a path out for each individual, but it's not easy. How could it be? All you have to do is Stand and Hold and Not Give Up.

'The virtues are eternal, getting possession of them is not for the weak and temporal minded. It takes everything because it also provides everything; everything beyond the common dreams of those addicted to the trough.'-Les Visible.... :? 8-)

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Post Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:27 am by mcgowanjm Re: Mounting signs of deepening global slump

Post Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:27 am by mcgowanjm

Greece stands on the verge of an energy crisis caused not by lack of energy, but lack of money within the energy sector. This will become a common refrain throughout Europe and beyond in the coming months and years. Loss of liquidity has a cascading effect on supply chains, causing them to seize up.

Illargi misses this one.

The grand euro experiment is grinding toward its ultimate conclusion, this can be seen in the petroleum markets. The chart by Bloomberg:

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Here we see what happens when a belief system dies. The grinding part is caused by the high price of petroleum. It has cost so little for so long the entire machinery world has been built up around it. A low price has been assumed forever. Now fuel is unaffordable by a large and increasing part of the world economy: the part that has been charged with servicing the world’s debt.

The outcome of the high price has been demand destruction with resulting sharp fall in the price: down then up then down again. The public naively believes the decline in price is an unadulterated ‘good thing’ but prices fall today because something important has died … such as a country.(My Edit: Spain.... :twisted:

www.economic-undertow.com/

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Post Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:29 am by mcgowanjm Re: Mounting signs of deepening global slump

Post Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:29 am by mcgowanjm We've got maybe 2 weeks left, probably less, as the banks/fiance won;t wait for the greek election results to move.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   8:09:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1003. To: mcgowanjm (#1002)

New International Version (©1984) "'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

New Living Translation (©2007) "If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.

English Standard Version (©2001) If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

New American Standard Bible (©1995) If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) When a man has sexual intercourse with another man as with a woman, both men are doing something disgusting and must be put to death. They deserve to die.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003) If a man also lies with a man, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

American King James Version If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them.

American Standard Version And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Douay-Rheims Bible If any one lie with a man se with a woman, both have committed an abomination, let them be put to death: their blood be upon them.

Darby Bible Translation And if a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall certainly be put to death; their blood is upon them.

English Revised Version And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Webster's Bible Translation If a man also shall lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

World English Bible "'If a man lies with a male, as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Young's Literal Translation And a man who lieth with a male as one lieth with a woman; abomination both of them have done; they are certainly put to death; their blood is on them. Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

If a man lie also with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,.... Is guilty of the sin of sodomy, this is a breach of the law in Leviticus 18:22,

both of them have committed an abomination; he that lies, and he that is lain with, both consenting to perpetrate the abominable wickedness; which may well be called an abomination, being contrary to nature, and more than brutish, for nothing of that kind is to be found among brutes:

they shall surely be put to death; if he that is lain with is not forced, as Aben Ezra observes:

their blood shall be upon them; be slain by stoning, as the above Targum. Geneva Study Bible

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Wesley's Notes

20:13 Put to death - Except the one party was forced by the other. See Deu 22:25. Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

20:10-27 These verses repeat what had been said before, but it was needful there should be line upon line. What praises we owe to God that he has taught the evil of sin, and the sure way of deliverance from it! May we have grace to adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things; may we have no fellowship with unfruitful works of darkness, but reprove them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   8:14:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1004. To: mcgowanjm (#1002)

as I'm done reading the bible.

Willing ignorance is no excuse my friend.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   8:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1005. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The periphery nations, led by Spain, are pushing on Germany and the funding nations to step-in but the cost will be very high and a huge loss of sovereignty. I doubt if many in Europe understand the price that will be extracted which will be the EU taking over Spain’s financial system, taxes and social services so that Brussels/Berlin will control the country.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:02:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1006. To: A K A Stone (#1004)

Willing ignorance is no excuse my friend.

Yep. You're exactly correct.

as I'm done reading the bible.

Study Power more....bible less....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1007. To: A K A Stone (#1004)

The problem for you, A K A, is that the bible is a Story.

A Faith&Believe story.

"I spend a lot of time on DOTE(Decline of the Empire;) talking about reality versus fantasy so you too will learn to see how people typically "think" about the Big Issues.

It turns out they don't think much at all (i.e. don't engage in rational thought, Kahneman's System 1).

Fundamentally, human beings were designed by nature for Faith & Belief, not for rational thought (System 2). I've known that for years and years now because if you actually look as objectively as possible at what goes on in this world, which is what I have tried to do, that's what you see over and over again.

However, the word "story" is neutral, and therefore calling a narrative "a story" effectively divorces it from whatever truth it might contain. Here's a good-enough definition in the intended sense.

An account or recital of an event or a series of events, either true or fictitious, as:

a. An account or report regarding the facts of an event or group of events: "the witness changed her story under questioning."

b. An anecdote: "came back from the trip with some good stories."

c. A lie: "told us a story about the dog eating the cookies."

The whole point of science, which led to human "subjugation" of the natural world as a desired side-effect, and whole point of data-based analysis of current and historical events, was to contruct narratives (called "theories") which were based in fact & observation, and subject to change based on new evidence.

A good theory should be falsifiable, i.e. subject to testing. Otherwise, it is merely a story which may be true or fictitious (see below). The whole point was for some humans to stop telling such stories about how the world works, about events and about each other. Such stories don't need to be grounded in anything. They can be fabricated from whole cloth, and often are.

Right up until the 16th century, all humans had been telling each other stories, often self-justifying, self-serving stories, for tens of thousands of years. Surely it comes as no surprise that the overwhelming majority of people still do that.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1008. To: mcgowanjm (#1005)

They should disband the EU. The EU is evil.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1009. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Spain & the Afghans....noting that no one on the USSAMedia cirxuit is talking about either....yet....;}

"Spain arrived at the precipice, as I have predicted many times and this morning; they have fallen over the edge.

So long and thanks for all the sardines!

Sancho is no longer fighting with windmills this morning. Notions of some charming book or a small foray into the countryside have been replaced by a much more serious confrontation where Germany will demand vengeance for the irresponsible behavior of Spain.

And

A Chinook with 30 USSAns lies crashed and burned as I type.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:33:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1010. To: mcgowanjm (#1007)

The problem for you, A K A, is that the bible is a Story.

Yes is is a story of the Human races origin. It explains why plants reproduce after like kind. There is no evolution. It tells us why there is evil in the world. It tells us why we wear clothes. Animals don't wear clothes. It tells us why man is fallen. It also tells us how to be redeemed. It tells us everything we need to know in order to live correctly.

Many people have some sin they don't want to give up. So they reject the clear moral teachings from God.

We all have a choice where we will spend eternity. We all choose Heaven or Hell.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1011. To: mcgowanjm (#1007)

A good theory should be falsifiable, i.e. subject to testing.

So you admit that evolution isn't a science. It is not testable. Nice to see someone being honest.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1012. To: A K A Stone (#1008)

They should disband the EU. The EU is evil.

No more than the USSA which they have copied to the bestest of their abilities....;}

But you weren't thinking of This Evil I'm sure:

Germany arms Israel with the latest nuclear armed subs.

CBS News‎ - 21 hours ago Der Spiegel reports Israel deploying nuclear-tipped cruise missiles on German-built submarines partially funded by Berlin Read more by ...

Of course not....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:36:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1013. To: mcgowanjm (#1012)

No more than the USSA which they have copied to the bestest of their abilities....;}

They have no bill of rights or checks and balances. Their system is nothing like ours.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1014. To: mcgowanjm (#1012)

But you weren't thinking of This Evil I'm sure:

Germany arms Israel with the latest nuclear armed subs.

No that is good. Kind of like the second amendment that gives you liberals all kinds of fits. Israel has a right to defend itself from Muslim maniacs. Maybe Israel will take those nukes and rid the world of the muslim scum that inhabits the earth presently.

Go Israel Gods chosen people.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1015. To: A K A Stone (#1011)

So you admit that evolution isn't a science.

Nice try with your storytelling acumen....but no cigar....;}

Evolution beats creationism...and so until I find a better theory...;}

Like, I haven't seen humans created....but I have seen deer/people get smaller fast on a reduced diet/crowding....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1016. To: A K A Stone (#1014)

Go Israel Gods chosen people.

This is a football game....Lulz.

And once again that story telling of God taking sides.

Which of course a just god would not do....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:41:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1017. To: A K A Stone (#1014)

No that is good.

A sentence containing the words 'nuclear armed' is never good.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:42:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1018. To: A K A Stone (#1014)

you liberals

Ain't no liberals left.

Reganauts killed 'em all off.

Just Dirty Fuckin' Hippies here now....you know...the tough SOB's that have been right since Reagan....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1019. To: A K A Stone (#1014)

Israel has a right to defend itself from Muslim maniacs.

Is That who was piloting the USS Liberty?

LMFAO....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-05   9:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#1020. To: mcgowanjm (#1015)

So you admit that evolution isn't a science.

Nice try with your storytelling acumen....but no cigar....;}

Oh you hypocrite. You can't test millions of years. And nothing has ever witnesses to have evolved. Do you think some day you will plant a tomato plant and it will magically through evilution change into something else. Or if you plant grass seed it might magically start producing some kind of new fruit through evilution? Evolution is nonsense. It is a fairy tale by satan for the stupid and gullible who don't want to follow the true way God told us about.

I pity the fool who thinks we evolved. I will add that many of the people who have the false belief system known as evolution, really just want to fuck monkeys.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-05   9:46:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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