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Title: Generation F*cked How Britain is Eating Its Young
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/71/generation-fcked.html
Published: Aug 11, 2011
Author: Maria Hampton
Post Date: 2011-08-16 18:04:13 by Mad Dog
Keywords: libTURDISM is, a terminal, mental DISEASE
Views: 10487
Comments: 28

The UN’s first ever report on the state of childhood in the industrialized West made unpleasant reading for many of the world’s richest nations. But none found it quite so hard to swallow as the Brits, who, old jokes about English cooking aside, discovered that they were eating their own young.

According to the Unicef report, which measured 40 indicators of quality of life – including the strength of relationships with friends and family, educational achievements and personal aspirations, and exposure to drinking, drug taking and other risky behavior – British children have the most miserable upbringing in the developed world. American children come next, second from the bottom.

The report confirmed many people’s suspicions about the “British disease,” in the process raising doubts about the Anglo-American model of progress in general.

As the older but also weaker partner, Britain may well serve to warn a host of nations following closely behind on its path.

While an aging, ever more crowded Europe looks on anxiously at the stress behavior currently being exhibited by its own dysfunctional young – be it Parisian car barbecues or riots in Denmark and Germany – our continental cousins can’t help but notice that many of these behaviors debuted in Anglo-American cultures.

The report explicitly demonstrated that, at least on this side of the Atlantic, the British are trailblazers of generational instability and social deterioration.

On the whole, British children were more disconnected from their families, with nearly half of 15-year-old boys spending most nights out with friends, compared to just 17 percent of their French counterparts.

Forty percent of UK youth had sex before age 15, compared with 15 percent of Polish teens.

They drank nearly four times as much as the Italians, and, perhaps most saliently, had the lowest sense of subjective well-being among all the youth surveyed.

But to what degree was the report accurate, and how much of it was hyperbole?

The Independent’s Paul Vallely quickly dismissed it as just another tabloid chapter in the UK’s ongoing moral panic about its feral children.

“Consider the hugely varied responses,” he observed, “Everyone sees in it confirmation of their pre-existing worldview.

It’s an indictment of our dog-eat-dog society.

It showed how the furious pace of technical and cultural change is accelerating childhood depression and behavioral problems.

It confirmed how rubbish New Labour has been on eradicating poverty.

It is the result of market forces pushing children to act, dress and consume like adults.

It is the fault of junk food, computers and pedophiles lurking round every corner.

Pick your prejudice, you can find the evidence here.”

Others were neither as sure nor as reassuring. Veteran columnist Mary Dejevksy noted that “while Labour politicians swerved frantically away from accepting the findings – variously blaming Margaret Thatcher, the subjectivity of the categories, or the supposed obsolescence of the statistics – large numbers of people across the country breathed a sigh of relief.

Here was documentary support for their fears.

After ten years of official assurances that things were only getting better – greater all round prosperity, less child poverty, more nurseries, fewer teenage pregnancies, and improved exam results – callers and emailers embraced the Unicef findings as an alternative truth more in line with their own experience.”

Around the nation, airtime was cleared for cathartic phone-ins, heated discussions, and a torrent of contributors that simply would not stop.

As if sensing that many of the problems might in part stem from the government’s unparalleled obsession with monitoring, measuring and homogenizing the very children it once sought to cherish, many former Labour advisors suddenly sought to introduce daylight between their ideas and those of the heavily surveilled nanny state.

Neil Lawson of the Labour think-tank Compass bleakly admitted: “Society is hollowing out, but not just in the rotting boroughs of south London.

The middle classes are anxious too.

Many are richer but few seem happier.

Mental illness abounds.

White-collar jobs are outsourced to India.

Everyone looks for meaning in their lives – but all they find is shopping.”

“The reason our children’s lives are the worst among economically advanced countries is because we are a poor version of the USA,” he said. “So the USA comes second from bottom and we follow behind.

The age of neo-liberalism, even with the human face that New Labour has given it, cannot stem the tide of the social recession capitalism creates.”

Others claimed that Labour had conducted a botched experiment in social engineering through financial incentives that favored full-time work for all parents, except the super rich or the desperately deprived.

Popular psychologist and Affluenza author Oliver James called on the UK to raise the status of being a parent over the status of the worker-consumer.

“Being a stay at home mother has a lower one than that of a street-sweeper,” he lamented, adding that after spending a decade trying to advise the current administration, they had done almost the exact opposite of what was needed.

But what if the behavior of broken British children is less a violent reaction to their inadequate pasts than calculated defiance against their hopeless futures?

Looking ahead, demographers and sociologists have begun to map out the downward trajectory on the bell curve called “progress.”

They’ve spotted trouble – the kind of trouble that may already be written in the faces of today’s teens’ older siblings.

In their Class of 2005 survey, LSE economist Nick Bosanquet, along with Blair Gibbs of the independent think tank Reform, branded Britain’s under-35s the “iPod Generation” – insecure, pressured, over-taxed and debt-ridden.

Warning that Britain was at a generational tipping point when it came to quality of life, they argued, “The common perception is that today’s young people have it easy.

But the true position of young people is thrown into stark relief when compared to their parents . . . who enjoyed many advantages of which the younger generation can now only dream, including a generous welfare state, free universal higher education, secure pensions and a substantial rise in housing equity which has augmented their lifetime savings.”

Others have called the tripling of housing costs in under a decade the largest generational asset transfer – from young and poor to old and rich – in UK history, and it is almost certainly the key factor contributing to both the nation’s plummeting birth-rate and its record £1.2 trillion in personal debt, a figure that puts even the most voracious American consumer to shame.

Debt, whether measured in a natal deficit or angry letters from the bank, is a sure sign that the good times are up, because the only way the pretense of affluence can be continued is if tomorrow’s hardship is used to pay for today’s brief consumer whims.

The first stirrings of major intergenerational conflict are already being noted.

The basic rights of the recent past – a safe job, free education and healthcare, secure homes to raise a family, a modest but comfortable old age – have slipped quietly away, all to be replaced by a myriad of vapid lifestyle choices and glittery consumer trinkets.

Excluded from a national social housing scheme sold off by their parents, unwilling to give birth in the UK’s draconian new system of rental accommodation which gives tenants no more than six months grace from eviction, and unable to afford homes of their own in 85 percent of the country, today’s iPod generation is stunted: trapped halfway between childhood and adulthood.

It now takes them until 34, on average, before they can afford a house, let alone have a family of their own.

Little surprise that they are such a woeful models of grown-up responsibility for their younger siblings to emulate.

Mom and Dad aren’t much better.

By blowing their children’s inheritance on 80 percent of the UK’s luxury good purchases, from SUVs to cruises and anti-wrinkle creams, Britain’s baby-boomers seem hell bent on ensuring that, even without coming resource shortages such as Peak Oil, their offspring will be the first generation in living memory to have a lowered standard of living.

The economic impact of baby boomers is certainly no surprise to those in the city, who have long described the boomer charge through the decades as the “pig in the pipeline.”

As Channel 4’s economics correspondent Faisal Islam observed, “They embraced social liberalism, flower power and a large state when they were teenagers, and low taxes, a smaller state and loads-of-money individualism in their period of high disposable income.

Then on the realization of their own mortality, up goes spending on the health service and pensions. Fifty to 64 year-olds also have the largest carbon footprints – 20 percent bigger than other age groups – yet the climate change phenomenon will not affect them.

Perhaps we are seeing the scary sight of a generation that has been rather brutal in getting its own way squeezing everything it can out of its children.”

Or, as Conservative MP David Willetts, put it: “A young person could be forgiven for believing that the way in which economic and social policy is now conducted is little less than a conspiracy by the middle-aged against the young.”

No wonder the UK is increasingly repressing its youth.

As the generational divide deepens, it makes sense for the older generations to stake their claim now, while they have the power of the state on their side.

Aside from handing out more than 10,000 Asbos (Antisocial Behaviour Orders, a cross between a human parking ticket and the sort of condemned notice you sometimes see on the walls of derelict buildings), the petty misanthropy that bans hoodie-wearing teenagers from shopping malls, forces parenting classes on failing single mums, and allows 79 percent of police forces to impose curfews on children, comes easily to a nation that thought up the idea that its young should be seen and not heard.

But never before have we put them under this degree of surveillance while simultaneously turning a blind eye to our adult responsibilities.

Satellites track their phones, marketeers groom them on cyberspace, police add the DNA from 600 innocent children a week to a 50,000-sample database, while libraries fingerprint them to borrow books – all linked by rafts of new childhood databases joining the dots.

In an age of hyper-individualism we are recoiling from the very children we have created.

Monitoring is not enough, we must be protected from them.

So Conservative leader David Cameron’s call to “hug a hoodie” was mocked, but Tony Blair won praise for ignoring compelling crime statistics and launching a “Respect agenda” to protect the societies safest members (the over-50s) from those most at risk of crime (the under-25s)

Just how much more hopeless does the situation have to become before Britain’s children wake up and realize that they no longer want to be monitored, marketed and manipulated for the benefit of their elders?

Is it possible to wake and warn them?

Some would seem to have neither the skills nor the will to articulate their anger and isolation.

As a small, densely populated island that spawned both the industrial revolution and colonialism, Britain has a lot to tell the rest of the developed world in general, and America in particular, about our common future.

If the crisscrossing fault-lines of greed, geopolitics and social inequality do reach a tipping point, we may well see a conflict between youthful brutality and the power of old age that will only accelerate the decline.

Maybe we should hope that our young people never wake. Because, if they do, Britain may soon be no place to grow old.

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#1. To: Mad Dog (#0)

But none found it quite so hard to swallow as the Brits, who, old jokes about English cooking aside, discovered that they were eating their own young.

See I told you British cooking sucks!!!!! LOL......

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-08-16   18:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0)

No wonder the UK is increasingly repressing its youth.

As the generational divide deepens, it makes sense for the older generations to stake their claim now, while they have the power of the state on their side.

Aside from handing out more than 10,000 Asbos (Antisocial Behaviour Orders, a cross between a human parking ticket and the sort of condemned notice you sometimes see on the walls of derelict buildings), the petty misanthropy that bans hoodie-wearing teenagers from shopping malls, forces parenting classes on failing single mums, and allows 79 percent of police forces to impose curfews on children, comes easily to a nation that thought up the idea that its young should be seen and not heard.

But never before have we put them under this degree of surveillance while simultaneously turning a blind eye to our adult responsibilities.

Satellites track their phones, marketeers groom them on cyberspace, police add the DNA from 600 innocent children a week to a 50,000-sample database, while libraries fingerprint them to borrow books – all linked by rafts of new childhood databases joining the dots.

In an age of hyper-individualism we are recoiling from the very children we have created.

Monitoring is not enough, we must be protected from them.

So Conservative leader David Cameron’s call to “hug a hoodie” was mocked, but Tony Blair won praise for ignoring compelling crime statistics and launching a “Respect agenda” to protect the societies safest members (the over-50s) from those most at risk of crime (the under-25s)

Just how much more hopeless does the situation have to become before Britain’s children wake up and realize that they no longer want to be monitored, marketed and manipulated for the benefit of their elders?

Is it possible to wake and warn them?

Some would seem to have neither the skills nor the will to articulate their anger and isolation.

As a small, densely populated island that spawned both the industrial revolution and colonialism, Britain has a lot to tell the rest of the developed world in general, and America in particular, about our common future.

If the crisscrossing fault-lines of greed, geopolitics and social inequality do reach a tipping point, we may well see a conflict between youthful brutality and the power of old age that will only accelerate the decline.

Maybe we should hope that our young people never wake. Because, if they do, Britain may soon be no place to grow old.

FYI

LOTS of words.

LOTS of "blame".

NO solutions of course.

They will just keep doing what libTURDS do, maybe it'll actually "work" this time?

Yeah...

Start holding your breath now.

I DO agree with this,

..."As a small, densely populated island that spawned both the industrial revolution and colonialism, Britain has a lot to tell the rest of the developed world in general, and America in particular, about our common future."

THIS is exactly where American libTURDS and business as normal political whores are TRYING to take us ALL.

A RNC fund raiser called me earlier today.

I yelled at him and them for a while, then hung up.

THIS IS THE TIME!

STAND UP AMERICANS!

WE AMERICANS MUST GAIN CONTROL OF THIS FERAL GOOBERMENT NOW.

NO KINGS!

EVER.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-16   18:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: CZ82 (#1)

.

As an ex-squid, (knowledge of LOTS of shipwrecks and sinkings in maritime history; lots of desperate survival events), let me tell you the most terrible thing about cannibalism.

It is said, that once you dare cross THAT line, that you long for it all of the rest of your life.

They say it's like heroin.

Many are the cases where these tormented souls have "re-offended" just for the "meal"(s).

.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-16   18:23:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Mad Dog (#3)

It is said, that once you dare cross THAT line, that you long for it all of the rest of your life.

My dog likes the taste of liberals in the morning.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-08-16   18:26:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Mad Dog (#0)

The basic rights of the recent past – a safe job, free education and healthcare, secure homes to raise a family, a modest but comfortable old age...

These aren't rights, they're luxuries.

When a society no longer appreciates the difference between a luxury and a right, then they no longer appreciate anything.

LET London burn. After the socialist idiots have burned down their own houses, businesses and cities, it will be they who will face the burden of rebuilding.

And who knows, maybe THEN they'll appreciate the things they'd been handed- previously paid for, by someone else.

Spoiled little bastards.

The two sides in America are people who work for a living versus people who vote for their living.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-16   18:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: CZ82 (#1)

See I told you British cooking sucks!!!!! LOL......

It may be bad, but GOD knows it can't be worse than IRISH cooking...

The two sides in America are people who work for a living versus people who vote for their living.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-08-16   18:37:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#4)

My dog likes the taste of liberals in the morning.

Really?

They make my dogs sick.

How do you cook em?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-16   19:11:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Capitalist Eric (#6)

It may be bad, but GOD knows it can't be worse than IRISH cooking...

It seems as if the are "Culinarily Challenged" in that general vicinity of the globe.... LOL...

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-08-16   19:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Capitalist Eric (#5)

.

YEP.

libTURDISM is a terminal mental disease.

It's killing the west.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-16   19:13:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Capitalist Eric, CZ82 (#6)

See I told you British cooking sucks!!!!! LOL......

It may be bad, but GOD knows it can't be worse than IRISH cooking...

LOL!

I guess that I should be offended?

(100% IRISH blood).

But the fact is that the IRISH have been traditionally happy to have ANY food to eat.

Throughout history their main "spice" has been just plain old HUNGER.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-16   19:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#4)

My dog likes the taste of liberals in the morning.

I didn't know you had a dog???? I always thought you just sicced the neighbors kids on them!!!!

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-08-16   19:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Mad Dog (#10)

LOL!

I guess that I should be offended?

(100% IRISH blood).

But the fact is that the IRISH have been traditionally happy to have ANY food to eat.

Throughout history their main "spice" has been just plain old HUNGER.

They should be experts on all of the different ways to cook fish and potatos, since that has been the major staples of their diets for centuries......

I always did like their Fish and Chips, but they always seemed to leave the chips kinda soggy.... although a little ketchup and a pint of lager covered that up..... LOL.....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-08-16   19:24:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: CZ82 (#12)

.

Potatoes have only been an item in IRISH food since the discovery of the "new world".

Fish has never been the common IRISH people's food. They were lucky to have potatoes.

Fish and chips is an ENGLISH dish, NOT IRISH.

Not that THAT matters when eating imo.

But ... hey if it's wee bit soggy who cares?

THAT is what that bottle of malt vinegar on the table is for boyo!

Next you'll TRY to tell me that corned beef and cabbage is not good stuff?

Ye HEATHEN!

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-16   19:37:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Mad Dog (#13)

THAT is what that bottle of malt vinegar on the table is for boyo!

Or maybe a bottle of single malt Irish whiskey????? Haven't had any Bushmills 21 yr old Malt in forever, god I miss that.....

I do have a little Irish blood myself maybe 1/3 rd or so, my Grandfather was Patsy Mc Brisen.....

No, I won't try to tell you Corned Beef and Cabbage isn't any good, but I think the best I've ever had was made by my German stepmother, she was an amazing cook..... I think she could cook an old Wehrmacht combat boot and somehow make it taste good...... LOL......

I always thought the Irish fished just like the Brits.....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-08-16   20:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: CZ82 (#14)

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Nah.

OMG! You don't go profaning whiskey with fish n chips, that's why the Lord made beer!

btw Old Bushmills is NOT "IRISH" whiskey. It's NORTHERN Ireland whiskey, it's UK whiskey.

My father, rest his soul, used to go into a bar and ask for an Irish whiskey. If they were unfortunate enough to offer him Old Bushmills ... the "fun" would start.

We had to bail him out more than a few times for doing exactly that.

He was GREEN from his bones to his soul.

And didn't give a D@MN who knew it.

LOL!

Personally I used to drink sourmash bourbon.

After all, I'm an AMERICAN not an Irishman.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-16   20:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: CZ82 (#14)

.

Btw it wasn't that the Irish didn't fish, although they didn't fish as much as you might imagine especially in the west.

It was that fish were a LUXURY item as far as the common people were concerned.

"Soles" et. al. were for "th Laird" n his.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-16   20:19:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Mad Dog (#15)

btw Old Bushmills is NOT "IRISH" whiskey. It's NORTHERN Ireland whiskey, it's UK whiskey.

It's still good though......

So what did your Dad drink????

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-08-16   20:31:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Mad Dog (#15)

Personally I used to drink sourmash bourbon.

After all, I'm an AMERICAN not an Irishman.

I've never been much of a beer drinker but will partake when one is offered.... In fact I don't even keep any in the house, my first choice is usually a good sourmash or gin....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-08-16   20:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: CZ82 (#17)

So what did your Dad drink????

Very good question.

It confused me then and still kind of does.

He loved GOOD Scotch whiskey.

I KNOW, Scotland is part of the UK.

I think that he felt that it was OK because the Scots are fellow Celts even if they weren't strictly "IRISH".

I could never stand the stuff.

Anyway, I don't think it really had anything to do with drinking, I think that he just wanted to kick somebody's ass.

He was straight up old school that way.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-16   23:38:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Mad Dog (#19)

He loved GOOD Scotch whiskey.

I could never stand the stuff.

I guess it depends on what you've tasted, some were really good (single malt) and some taste like gasoline (blended)..... I know it took me awhile to learn to appreciate it..... I don't drink it as much as I used to, I'm not living over there anymore, and I'm like you I prefer a good sourmash and it's usually cheaper.....

I think I have a bottle of 15 yr old Glenfiddich stashed somewhere...... I'll bet it has a layer of dust on it about 1/8" thick or more...... LOL.....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-08-17   7:40:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Mad Dog (#0)

While an aging, ever more crowded Europe looks on anxiously at the stress behavior currently being exhibited by its own dysfunctional young – be it Parisian car barbecues or riots in Denmark and Germany – our continental cousins can’t help but notice that many of these behaviors debuted in Anglo-American cultures.

The author is PC enough he dances all around the prime reason without mentioning it. England is a WHITE country that is in the process of being taken over by non-whites with non-white cultures. Even worse than that is the fact their own English leadership is helping this happen with the same sort of affirmative action and pc laws there that are destroying America.

The reason England's young white people are no longer trying to succeed is because they no longer have any hope. They don't have any hope because they understand the game is fixed and the cards are stacked against them.

There is really nothing new about this,though. The problem is as old as mankind. A tribe will become civilized enough and secure enough to lose all fear of starvation and anarchy,and think they can bring in their savage neighbors and just by exposing the savages to the benefits and security of civilization the savages will want to become civilized themselves.

"And we will all build cottages with white picket fences along the roads,and be friends to mankind!"

The problem is this has never worked and will NEVER work because it goes against human nature. The savages see it as a sign of weakness from a elite society that is so afraid of them the society is willing to pay the savages a ransom (free housing,medical care,food,clothing,etc,etc,etc)to not hurt them

Furthermore,they see the riches and benefits the civilized society has accumulated through BEING a civilization,and convince themselves they they TOO should have been living like this all along,and the only reason they had been reduced to eating their own children and neighbors for thousands of years is because the evil society with all the wealth has cheated them out of their share of the wealth all these thousands of years.

Add the two together and you get violent savages upsetting and destroying the existing social order,which then collapses as the savages gain control and civilized society falls.

All you have to do to see the most recent example of this in action is to look at Africa. Which,as bad as it is,is only going to get even worse as the industrialized civilizations of the west have their own massive financial problems and problems with unrest,and no longer give money to Africa to keep her afloat.

What has happened in Africa is now happening in the west,and it won't end until western society is destroyed and anarchy rules.

That's when the cycle will start again. Eventually people will get tired of being scared of roving mobs and demand order. A new tribal system will evolve to deal with the anarchy and make people feel safe in their homes. The new tribal leaders will be absolutely ruthless when it comes to enforcing law and order,either killing off all the savages or forcing them to run away. Businesses will start up again,and so will importing and exporting. Schools and hospitals will be build and staffed again. A stable banking system will evolve.

And then,once again the population will feel safe and generous,and want to once again start trying to civilize the savages.

And THAT cycle will start up once again,also.

And this cycle will continue to repeat itself until civilized people who grow up accustomed to comfort and safety realize that unless people are allowed to progress on their own and succeed due to their own hard work and efforts provide themselves with their own safety and develop their own civilization that any outside help is doomed to fail. Mankind HAS to be allowed to succeed or fail on it's own. Nobody places any value on anything that is given to them. They only value what they earn. THIS is why the cycle starts to begin with. The people who climbed out of the rubble of tribal warfare and anarchy built THEIR civilization,and others must be allowed to do the same or they are doomed to failure.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-08-17   9:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Capitalist Eric (#6)

It may be bad, but GOD knows it can't be worse than IRISH cooking...

People ain't never been known to travel to Scotland for fine cuisine,either. They eat crap that would make a Frenchman gag.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-08-17   9:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Mad Dog (#19)

He loved GOOD Scotch whiskey.

I could never stand the stuff.

That's because he wasn't gay, and you are.

Actually I'm surprised you ever met your dad.

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-08-17   10:24:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sneakypete (#21)

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I agree and I think that it's obvious.

But I posted this as an example of how absolutely clueless the libTURD, (there is no such thing as American styled conservatives in the UK, they, (the UK), have no WRITTEN constitution), power structure in the UK really is.

The entire piece reads like a Louis-Ferdinand Céline novel. It's INSANE imo.

But as you have stated, there is no individual liberty possible without the absolute right to private property.

The BIG wheel turns ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-17   13:51:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Biffffy the shithead little boy Tannen (#23)

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LOL!

What a foul little cunt YOU are bifffffy boy.

Unlike YOUR father biffffffy boy, my father didn't desert my family.

Unlike YOU biffffy boy, I know who my father was.

Only a stooopid little cunt such as YOU biffffy boy would even TRY to judge people on what their adult beverage of choice is.

Yep biffffy boy.

Once AGAIN YOU prove what a vile little simpering libTURD cunt YOU are biffffy boy.

I feel your pain biffffy boy.

libTURD SCUM.

SCUM

spit ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-17   14:01:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete, Capitalist Eric (#22)

It may be bad, but GOD knows it can't be worse than IRISH cooking...

People ain't never been known to travel to Scotland for fine cuisine,either. They eat crap that would make a Frenchman gag.

LOL!

Too true.

One word ...

"Haggis".

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-17   14:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Mad Dog (#24)

there is no individual liberty possible without the absolute right to private property.

Private property is the cornerstone of civilization. All else flows from it because private property is what provides hope.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-08-17   20:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#27)

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A man who has no right to private property, who has no right to the fruits of his own labor, is a SLAVE.

Collectivism is DEATH.

"Sic Semper Tyrannis!"

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-08-17   21:06:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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