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Title: GOP ad paints Obama as dupe of Chinese
Source: WLS
URL Source: http://www.wlsam.com/Article.asp?id=2247622&spid=
Published: Jul 27, 2011
Author: WLS/AP
Post Date: 2011-07-27 21:08:07 by Hondo68
Keywords: a red-and-yellow Chinese flag, Communist leaders applauding, Obama is beatable
Views: 122791
Comments: 190

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RICHMOND, Va. (WLS) - The presidential race is already creeping onto local television in the 2012 battleground of Virginia.

The Republican National Committee previewed a new 30-second attack ad Wednesday that portrays President Barack Obama as a dupe of a China that has mastered the United States by January 2017, the hypothetical end of Obama's second term.

The ad, with light penetration but a big social media component in Virginia, depicts a wide-eyed girl in a darkened room fearfully viewing television images of Obama before a red-and-yellow Chinese flag and a cutaway shot of China's Communist leaders applauding.

RNC political director Rick Wiley says the ad is also airing in North Carolina, Iowa, Ohio, Florida and Indiana - states Obama won in 2008 but Republican George W. Bush carried in his 2004 re-election.

An afterthought in presidential elections for decades, Virginia was a decisive battleground in 2008 and a critical loss for the GOP in what had been a solidly Republican South. Obama was the first Democrat since Lyndon Johnson in 1964 to win Virginia in a presidential race.

This year, not only is Virginia in play again, but Obama's chief supporter in 2008, then-Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, is in one of next year's most-watched U.S. Senate races. Republican George Allen, trying to win back the seat he lost to Democratic Sen. Jim Webb in 2006, is favored to win the GOP nomination over a little-known field.

The GOP is striking while Obama struggles with Congressional Republican leaders to reach a compromise on raising the nation's $14.3 trillion borrowing limit by Tuesday or default on its bills for the first time in history. Wiley said polls show the drama is taking a toll on Obama heading into his re-election year.

"Across the board you're seeing it," he said. "We believe Barack Obama is beatable."

The ads, he said, "gives us a trial run before we put our grass roots in place across Virginia."

Brian Coy, a spokesman for the Democratic Party of Virginia, said the GOP is "holding our economy hostage" for political gain.

"They can launch all the ridiculous attack ads they want, but it won't distract Virginians from the fact that Republicans don't understand working families and don't have a plan to create jobs," Coy said. (1 image)

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

Virginia is one of the states that will be hit the hardest if the GOP sends the country into default next week. If they want to have any prayer of winning, they'll increase the debt limit.

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go65  posted on  2011-07-27   23:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#1)

Virginia is one of the states that will be hit the hardest if the GOP sends the country into default

Once Virginians see how much better off they are without D&R's, they'll elect all Knights Templar party candidates like Vlad the Impaler.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-28   0:13:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#0)

GOP ad paints Obama as dupe of Chinese

WOW! THAT's brass! Have these buffoons never heard of the Bush Crime Family?

Poppy Bush was the first Chinese slave,and he even sent his uncle Prescott to live in China to be the family bag man. Prescott made sure the Bush Crime Family got a finders fee for greasing the skids for all the deals that were made to send US jobs and technology to China. Boy Jorge even sold them massive oil fields in 3 western states so they could pump our oil to send to China,and even allowed them to bring in all Chinese workers and equipment to work those oil fields so that no American would make a dollar out of it,or know exactly what the Chinese were doing or what the PLA members (all Chinese oil workers are members of the Peoples Liberation Army) were really doing in America.

Baby Brudder "Ah doan no nofing bout no bankin'" Neil Bush is now taking over in China and the rest of Asia as the family bagman because Prescott is older than dirt and they need a replacement in place. As SOME of you may remember,Baby Brudder was in a hotel room in Thailand when a hooker he had never met knocked on his room door and insisted on having sex with him for free. This was citied in his divorce,and he was the one that testified before a judge that he didn't order the prostitute,she just showed up and insisted he let her in.

It seems like it never occurred to this rocket scientist that since the Thai government had provided the room AND the hooker that the room just MIGHT be wired for stereo sound and living,pulsing color.

BTW,Prescott Bush is the president of the Chinese-American Chamber of Commerce,and business partners with the members of the Chinese Politburo. It can only be assumed that Baby Brudder will be taking his place.

And most likely busing the tables after dinner is served.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-28   9:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#3)

Poppy Bush was the first Chinese slave,and he even sent his uncle Prescott to live in China to be the family bag man. Prescott made sure the Bush Crime Family got a finders fee for greasing the skids for all the deals that were made to send US jobs and technology to China. Boy Jorge even sold them massive oil fields in 3 western states so they could pump our oil to send to China,and even allowed them to bring in all Chinese workers and equipment to work those oil fields so that no American would make a dollar out of it,or know exactly what the Chinese were doing or what the PLA members (all Chinese oil workers are members of the Peoples Liberation Army) were really doing in America.

Baby Brudder "Ah doan no nofing bout no bankin'" Neil Bush is now taking over in China and the rest of Asia as the family bagman because Prescott is older than dirt and they need a replacement in place. As SOME of you may remember,Baby Brudder was in a hotel room in Thailand when a hooker he had never met knocked on his room door and insisted on having sex with him for free. This was citied in his divorce,and he was the one that testified before a judge that he didn't order the prostitute,she just showed up and insisted he let her in.

BTW,Prescott Bush is the president of the Chinese-American Chamber of Commerce,and business partners with the members of the Chinese Politburo. It can only be assumed that Baby Brudder will be taking his place.

Insight like this is why I regard you as one of the best posters around.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   10:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Liberator (#4)

Hi liberator. Long time no see.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-28   10:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#1)

Virginia is one of the states that will be hit the hardest if the GOP sends the country into default next week. If they want to have any prayer of winning, they'll increase the debt limit.

So...Your position is that the GOP must surrender again to the irresponsibly fiscal whims of the Leftist Dems in order to dethrone 0bama?

LMAO.

Virgina is a fedgov hive of bloated bureaucracy. Let these parasites get real jobs (oh, that's right - the ONLY jobs in Virgina are fedgov jobs. Eff 'em.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   10:46:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Thanks...

Perhaps I'll stick around for a bit and see what shakes.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   10:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Liberator (#6)

Your position is that the GOP must surrender again to the irresponsibly fiscal whims of the Leftist Dems in order to dethrone 0bama?

How is agreeing to pay the bills that the GOP ran up when they controlled both the Congress and WH capitualating to the "leftist dems"?

"Spandex", btw, isn't an answer.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   10:57:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Liberator (#7)

Perhaps I'll stick around for a bit and see what shakes

My guess is that you'll eventually devolve the "discussion" into name calling - as you usually do...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   10:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: war (#8)

"Spandex", btw, isn't an answer.

But is Lycra?? Lol...

How is agreeing to pay the bills that the GOP ran up when they controlled both the Congress and WH capitualating to the "leftist dems"?

War, let's be intellectually honest here; BOTH Parties ran up this un-godly debt. And BOTH Parties must ratchet down the un-godly spending.

And have you forgotten that since 2007 when the Dems first began controlling the purse-strings that the debt really began exploding into the ionosphere?

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war (#9)

My guess is that you'll eventually devolve the "discussion" into name calling - as you usually do...

Aww now baby, don't do me like that. Dooode! Why not just call me "yukon"??

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Liberator, goat56 (#6) (Edited)

So...Your position is that the GOP must surrender again to the irresponsibly fiscal whims of the Leftist Dems in order to dethrone 0bama?

LMAO.

Just in case goat doesn't get back to you right away, I've taken the liberty of sending you a link that will explain his/her position on the matter.

The Official goat56 response

Example script for your calls:

Hello, my name is ________ and I'm a voter who strongly supports a balanced approach to reducing the deficit.

Please tell Speaker Boehner that we should solve this problem through compromise. Can I count on his support?

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-07-28   11:02:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Liberator (#10)

War, let's be intellectually honest here; BOTH Parties ran up this un-godly debt. And BOTH Parties must ratchet down the un-godly spending.

The issue here is either honoring or not honoring debt. The rest is bullshit.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   11:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Liberator (#6)

the ONLY jobs in Virgina are fedgov jobs

In northern Virginia there are a lot of fed jobs, but that's not true for the whole state.

IMO Maryland is a worse mess than Virginia. The fed gov is a disease that's spreading.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-28   11:08:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#12)

...we should solve this problem through compromise.

If you have a problem with this then go read Federalist #10 and get back to me...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   11:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Get Outta Dodge!, go65 (#12)

Just in case goat doesn't get back to you right away, I've taken the liberty of sending you a link that will explain his/her position on the matter.

The Official goat56 response

Example script for your calls:

Hello, my name is ________ and I'm a voter who strongly supports a balanced approach to reducing the deficit.

Please tell Speaker Boehner that we should solve this problem through compromise. Can I count on his support?

He and they wish on a star...

But of course Boehner won't need much prodding to bend over at a 45 degree angle for the statist McStain-Wing of the Stupid Party.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#15)

compromise

go read Federalist #10

OBAMA: "Let's you and him compromise. Do it MY way"

And anyway, what the hell would "reading Federalist #10" have to do with the clusterf**k a.k.a. present day DC?

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-07-28   11:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: war (#13)

The issue here is either honoring or not honoring debt.

That's just one issue.

help me here; Why are we the people obligated to fork over a blank check for a bunch of misrepresenting thieves whose consent is ignored?

I don't remember consenting to finance the financial blunders of the international banksters.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Get Outta Dodge!, war (#17)

What the hell would "reading Federalist #10" have to do with the clusterf**k a.k.a. present day DC?

It doesn't...

But it somehow helps socialists and liberals ignore fiscal responsibility while justifying NOT balancing federal budgets.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:16:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Liberator (#18)

That's just one issue.

As of now, it's the only one.

No one is worried about, and markets are not reacting to, the possibility that discretionary spending is going to cut or not cut.

They are worried about the world's largest creditor honoring its debt obliagtions.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   11:16:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#18)

That's just one issue.

help me here; Why are we the people obligated to fork over a blank check for a bunch of misrepresenting thieves whose consent is ignored?

I don't remember consenting to finance the financial blunders of the international banksters

Since we don't live in an uncontitutional direct democracy, your representative in congress did.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   11:16:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: hondo68, go65 (#14)

In northern Virginia there are a lot of fed jobs, but that's not true for the whole state.

You're probably right with regard to the entire state of Virginia. My assessment was with respect to the blanket assertion by go65 that the state would be "hit the hardest."

IMO Maryland is a worse mess than Virginia. The fed gov is a disease that's spreading

yep. The only "industries" within 30-35 minutes of the DC-VD corridor are goob pencil pushers, paper shufflers, and parasitic bureaucrat hives. BOO-frickin'-HOO! All the burb McMansions of these leeches will have to be sold/foreclosed upon!!

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#17) (Edited)

OBAMA: "Let's you and him compromise. Do it MY way"

What did Obama take off of the table when he met with Boehner and Cantor?

On the other hand, what did Boehner and Cantor put ON the table when they met with Obama?

We are a government of compromise and not of factionalism. If you want to see factionalism at work, move to Greece, Italy or Spain and enjoy the stability.

It's moot anyway, neither Boehner nor Cantor can deliver their caucus. Does that help the GOP? Does it help the extremists in that party who require their candidates to sign intransigent "pledges" and then hold them to 100% compliance to orthodoxy?

The GOP has once again shown that while they may be brilliant campaigners, their method of governance always gets them in the end. This is 1997 all over again and you're going to see a "conservative" Paxton type coup try to overthrow Boehner and Cantor. It will fail and set the stage for a) an Obama re-election and b) an erosion of the GOP majority in the House.

It's impossible to mount an united opposition when the opposition, itrself, is a) not united nor b) in step with the electorate.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   11:25:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: war (#20)

No one is worried about, and markets are not reacting to, the possibility that discretionary spending is going to cut or not cut.

They are worried about the world's largest creditor honoring its debt obliagtions.

The markets?? Oh...Is THAT who the little people should be worried about?

Ok, go ahead then. Print up another gazillion dollars. No, make that another bazillion! Cuz, YES WE CAN!! Voila!! Debt absolved.

Don't cry to me when your next Lycra-Spandex onesy is $1000 USD.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war, Get Outta Dodge! (#23)

What did Obama take off of the table when he met with Boehner and Cantor?

(psssst....)

There IS NO "table" where 0bama and his boney Commie azz is concerned.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: war, Get Outta Dodge! (#23)

We are a government of compromise and not of factionalism.

Name ONE single "compromise" initiated by 0bama.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Liberator (#24)

The markets??

You either misread what I wrote or purposely distorted it.

So, either reread and revise or move on.

Not going to play Libby games.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   11:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: war (#13)

The issue here is either honoring or not honoring debt. The rest is bullshit.

No, that's not the issue. The issue is whether we should be running up even more debt.


To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. — Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-28   11:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Liberator (#26)

Name ONE single "compromise" initiated by 0bama.

Medicare and SS...two things that he had previoulsy agreed to not touch.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   11:32:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: jwpegler (#28)

The issue is whether we should be running up even more debt.

A separate issue that needs to be addressed AS WE ARE PAYING WHAT WE ALREADY OWE.

If you're making the decision to finance a new car purchase, you don't stop paying the mortgage.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   11:34:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: jwpegler (#28) (Edited)

No, that's not the issue. The issue is whether we should be running up even more debt.

IMHO the issue is "how to we increase economic growth and spur job creation/wage increases." Talking about cutting government spending when the economy is limping along is idiotic and ignores what is currently going in countries like the UK that adopted austerity, as well as our own history (see 1937).

The Democrats have let the Republicans shape the wrong agenda. Get back to 3-4% growth and the deficit becomes a much smaller issue.

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go65  posted on  2011-07-28   11:37:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Liberator (#26) (Edited)

Name ONE single "compromise" initiated by 0bama.

Extension of the Bush tax cuts in December, and giving up on the public option come to mind.

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go65  posted on  2011-07-28   11:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war (#30)

If you're making the decision to finance a new car purchase, you don't stop paying the mortgage.

The only people who claim that we won't pay the interest on the current debt are fear mongering Democrats.


To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. — Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-28   11:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: jwpegler (#33)

The only people who claim that we won't pay the interest on the current debt are fear mongering Democrats.

We have more than interest coming due. We have $90bln in TBills maturing on 8/4.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   11:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Liberator, hondo68 (#22)

You're probably right with regard to the entire state of Virginia. My assessment was with respect to the blanket assertion by go65 that the state would be "hit the hardest."

Northern Virginia and the Tidewater area (Norfolk/Va. Beach) are heavily tied to the federal government, and those just happen to be the two biggest economic areas in the Commonwealth.

yep. The only "industries" within 30-35 minutes of the DC-VD corridor are goob pencil pushers, paper shufflers, and parasitic bureaucrat hives. BOO-frickin'-HOO! All the burb McMansions of these leeches will have to be sold/foreclosed upon!!

Verizon Business, Sprint, Marriott, Discovery Networks, Capital One, NeuStar, XO Communications, Rosetta Stone, ExxonMobil, NVR Homes, Gannett, Hilton Hotels, Airbus, Rolls Royce, and Volkswagon are but a small list of companies with either HQ or major operations in the D.C. area that have little to do with the federal government.

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go65  posted on  2011-07-28   11:46:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: war (#34) (Edited)

We have more than interest coming due. We have $90bln in TBills maturing on 8/4.

And I own some and want my principle and interest.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   11:46:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: go65 (#31) (Edited)

The debt and deficits are two separate issues that have been melded into one. This nation incurred its first debt a few months after the Revolution was over.

So we balance the budget tomorrow. We still have debt that does not come due until 2041. So we cut spending to the point where we surplus a trillion dollars a year. That's enought to retire barely a year's worth of debt as it comes due.

So, we go ahead and do the latter, my guess is that the GOP, as it did in 2001, doesn't pay down debt but instead opts to give tax cuts to the wealthy.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   11:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#30)

A separate issue that needs to be addressed AS WE ARE PAYING WHAT WE ALREADY OWE.

You need to post this over and over. The Teabaggers apparently don't want to pay back the money they've already spent.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-28   11:51:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mininggold (#21)

Since we don't live in an uncontitutional direct democracy, your representative in congress did [give our consent.]

Great theory by the Founders, wasn't it?

If you hire me to defend and represent you in court and instead indict you, isn't that malpractice and malfeasance?

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war (#34) (Edited)

We have more than interest coming due. We have $90bln in TBills maturing on 8/4.

TBills mature all of the time. More TBills are sold to pay for the ones that are maturing.

The only way that won't happen is if the Democrats convince people that the government is at risk of not paying interest on the debt.

Obama could put all of this nonsense to bed today, by just telling us what he will prioritize if the debt ceiling isn't raised. But he won't do it because he'd rather scare old people, claiming their Social Security checks won't show up, to gain political advantage for himself.

His behavior is sickening.


To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. — Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-28   11:52:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Liberator (#39)

If you hire me to defend and represent you in court and instead indict you, isn't that malpractice and malfeasance?

Only if I have the bigger army.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   11:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Liberator (#39)

Great theory by the Founders [sic], wasn't it?

Framers. But they understood the Hobbesian Nature of Democracy.

If you hire me to defend and represent you in court and instead indict you, isn't that malpractice and malfeasance?

Can you made the wording of that sentence a little less random and a little more coherent, please?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   11:54:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: go65 (#32)

Extension of the Bush tax cuts in December, and giving up on the public option come to mind.

a.) technically I guess that is a "compromise," although it was supported by his own party which makes this "compromise" political reptilianism.

b.) Not true

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:54:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: jwpegler (#40) (Edited)

TBills mature all of the time. More TBills are sold to pay for the ones that are maturing.

Okay...and...? TBills are subject to the statutory debt limit. The US will not be able to issue TBills to pay for the maturing ones because the Debt Limit is suubject to trade date accounting not maturity date.

SS will be paid in August. Tax receipts in July and a CMB issued last week has ensured this.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   11:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: war (#42)

Framers. But they understood the Hobbesian Nature of Democracy.

Doing a bit of mind-reading there, arentcha?

("If you hire me to defend and represent you in court and instead indict you, isn't that malpractice and malfeasance?")

Can you made the wording of that sentence a little less random and a little more coherent, please?

You first.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: mininggold (#41)

So you admit the Founders' principle of a "representative government" is no longer valid?

BRAVO!

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   11:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Skip Intro, war (#38)

The Teabaggers apparently don't want to pay back the money they've already spent.

Ummm...WHICH of the $800 billion from 0bama's so-called "Stimulus" is that??

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   12:00:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: jwpegler (#40)

Obama could put all of this nonsense to bed today, by just telling us what he will prioritize if the debt ceiling isn't raised. But he won't do it because he'd rather scare old people, claiming their Social Security checks won't show up, to gain political advantage for himself.

His behavior is sickening.

SPOT ON.

0bama's mission:

Operation: FUBAR. LAUGH at Whitey. Play golf. More FUBAR.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   12:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Liberator (#46)

So you admit the Founders' principle of a "representative government" is no longer valid?

BRAVO!

You presented a hypothetical and I presented another. I said no such thing.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   12:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: go65 (#35) (Edited)

Verizon Business, Sprint, Marriott, Discovery Networks, Capital One, NeuStar, XO Communications, Rosetta Stone, ExxonMobil, NVR Homes, Gannett, Hilton Hotels, Airbus, Rolls Royce, and Volkswagon are but a small list of companies with either HQ or major operations in the D.C. area that have little to do with the federal government.

So IOW...the affected businesses are communications/spy industries and motels/hotels for goob drones and international lobbyists at which to have their affairs and meetings? And let's not forget the crippled luxury vehicle business in the DC area (boo-hoo...sob, sniffle.)

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   12:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Liberator (#45) (Edited)

Doing a bit of mind-reading there, arentcha?

Again I refer you to The Federalist #10 in which the reason for the Framers choosing a Republic over a Democracy is discussed.

So, no, there is no need to read minds when the Framers have spelled out their reasoning of one over the other in print for posterity.

You first.

You never disappoint my very low expectations of you. You've spent more time on my bozo then off of it and, at this point, I really don't care which way you go.

You attempted to posit something that, as you wrote it, makes 0 sense. Now, honestly, I could care less if you clarified it. But, this appeared to be one of those few times where you are TRYING to have a discussion. If that is not the case tell me now.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   12:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Liberator (#47)

You believe that the US is only $800bln in debt?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   12:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Skip Intro (#38)

You need to post this over and over. The Teabaggers apparently don't want to pay back the money they've already spent.

For this I blame Obama. Now everyone believes that the budget and debt are the same goddam thing. They aren't and he - and the Democrats - should have made this clear from the onset.

David Stockman was just on CNBC calling the US' credit rating worthy of that of a Banana Republic.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   12:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: war (#51)

Again I refer you to The Federalist #10 in which the reason for the Framers choosing a Republic over a Democracy os discussed.

Currently, we are no longer a representative Republic. No use in pretending anymore.

You never disappoint my very low expectations of you. You've spent more time on my bozo then off of it and, at this point, I really don't care which way you go.

You still haven't learned to consider points and compromise in debating issues - much like your hero, 0bama.

Your bozo list is your business. Whatever. Engage if you feel like it. I'll do the same, thank you.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   12:15:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Liberator (#54)

Currently, we are no longer a representative Republic. No use in pretending anymore.

What little pretense of pretending I left died a very ugly death with the Citizen's United decision...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   12:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: mininggold (#49)

You presented a hypothetical and I presented another. I said no such thing.

I should have known better. What wuz I thinking??

This is why we now have two, three or ten "Americas." None of us understand one another. I may as well be discussing roasted caterpillar recipes with a bright Ghanan chef.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   12:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: war (#55)

What little pretense of pretending I left died a very ugly death with the Citizen's United decision...

Yep..... the Roberts Court changed this country forever.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   12:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Liberator (#56) (Edited)

I should have known better. What wuz I thinking??

This is why we now have two, three or ten "Americas." None of us understand one another. I may as well be discussing roasted caterpillar recipes with a bright Ghanan chef.

You just wanted another excuse to act out, rant and show everyone how 'bright' you are with your made up vocabulary. Which is the reason you always come over here.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   12:27:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: mininggold, war (#57)

Yep..... the Roberts Court changed this country forever.

But 0bama and the Dem Senate and House didn't??

Lol, ooooo-kay.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   12:34:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mininggold (#58)

You just wanted another excuse to act out, rant and show everyone how 'bright' you are with your made up vocabulary. Which is the reason you always come over here.

Thank you, Dr. Ruth.

Aaah, how I miss your goofy posts....Occasionally you'll tease us with a glimmer of common sense and relative sobriety.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   12:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Liberator (#59)

But 0bama and the Dem Senate and House didn't??

Lol, ooooo-kay.

So who made the decision, and is Obama now a member of the Supreme Court?

You are getting way out in space even for a Tea Bagger, and need to tell your doc the current drug regimen isn't maintaining your grasp on reality and he needs to reevaluate.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   12:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Liberator (#60) (Edited)

Thank you, Dr. Ruth.

Aaah, how I miss your goofy posts....Occasionally you'll tease us with a glimmer of common sense and relative sobriety.

You did't really need to prove my assertion again.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   12:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Liberator (#59)

But 0bama and the Dem Senate and House didn't??

If I even had a gleaning of understanding as to what you "mean" here, I would still point out that the occupants of the WH and Senate are quite transient in nature when contrasted to a decision of the SCOTUS.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   12:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: mininggold (#61)

You are getting way out in space even for a Tea Bagger, and need to tell your doc the current drug regimen isn't maintaining your grasp on reality and he needs to reevaluate.

Now now...I wasn't gonna mention the clanging of empty Gilbeys bottles, but....

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   12:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Liberator (#64)

Now now...I wasn't gonna mention the clanging of empty Gilbeys bottles, but....

Yep, it only took a few posts to get you posting about your favorite delusion.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   12:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: war, mininggold (#63)

If I even had a gleaning of understanding as to what you "mean" here, I would still point out that the occupants of the WH and Senate are quite transient in nature when contrasted to a decision of the SCOTUS.

Firstly, I mean the Citizens United USCON decision was RIGHTLY decided, and Emperor 0bama and his loyal subjects - you, mininggold and Unions - are WRONG.

Secondly, the WH and the Dem Houses have virtually blown up the country a thousand different ways since 2009, yet you two are whimpering about - of ALL things - the Citizen United decision? Gimme a break.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   12:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: mininggold (#65)

Yep, it only took a few posts to get you posting about your favorite delusion.

Have you amnesia about who started what?

#61. To: Liberator (#59)

"You are getting way out in space even for a Tea Bagger, and need to tell your doc the current drug regimen isn't maintaining your grasp on reality and he needs to reevaluate."

mininggold posted on 2011-07-28 12:40:47 ET

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   12:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Liberator (#66) (Edited)

Firstly, I mean the Citizens United USCON decision was RIGHTLY decided, and Emperor 0bama and his loyal subjects - you, mininggold and Unions - are WRONG.

Secondly, the WH and the Dem Houses have virtually blown up the country a thousand different ways since 2009, yet you two are whimpering about - of ALL things - the Citizen United decision? Gimme a break.

I disagree and always will, and for all but the last couple of years corps did not have this right. So who is a conservative now?

I guess you already forgot about your posting your hypothetical prediction in the 2004 Illinois race

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   12:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Liberator (#66)

Firstly, I mean the Citizens United USCON decision was RIGHTLY decided

Still, haven't read #10, eh?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   13:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Liberator (#66) (Edited)

Secondly, the WH and the Dem Houses have virtually blown up the country a thousand different ways since 2009

The debt stood @ $10trl and the deficit @ $1.2trl when Obama assumed office.

What did they blow up?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   13:04:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: war (#70)

The debt stood @ $10trl and the deficit @ $1.2trl when Obama assumed office.

Let's see. Half of the Bush deficit was due to the Bush tax cuts, and most of the rest was from Bush's two unfunded wars and Bush's unfunded prescription drug entitlement.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-28   13:13:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Skip Intro (#71)

When you listen to the rhetoric of the Boehners and the Cantors you'd be under the impression that this nation was founded on 20th January 2009.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   13:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: war (#70)

Chyeah: "BUSH'S FAULT!!"

0bama is fixin' the country by spending a gazillion dollars!! Let's all hug out Hopey-Changey blow-up dolls!!

Happy now??

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   13:22:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Liberator (#73)

Still, haven't read #10, eh?

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   13:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Skip Intro (#71)

Let's see. Half of the Bush deficit was due to the Bush tax cuts, and most of the rest was from Bush's two unfunded wars and Bush's unfunded prescription drug entitlement.

The second two items are legit...

Tax "cuts" are merely the People's refund for being overcharged in the first place. And btw, even those who paid ZERO taxes got "refunds" because the DEMS demanded it.

You did forget the cost of subsidizing the illegal invader population, the Plantation parasites, and increasing the goobermint's unnecessary agencies and drones.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   13:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: mininggold (#74)

Still, haven't read #10, eh?

You've missed the irony. As usual.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   13:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Liberator (#73) (Edited)

Chyeah: "BUSH'S FAULT!!"

Nope. But he certainly did not make things better. And he proved that everything that Al Gore said about Bush's fiscal policy in 2000 was true.

This goes back to Reagan and the willingness to break up the middle class through Union busting and transfer vast amounts of wealth to moneyed interests through an ever increasing amount of public debt. Our Current Account went from hundreds of billions in surplus to deficit in ~5 years.

Do you want to talk about how screwed up we are? Then start with this...US soldiers have spilled their blood and lost their lives in Kuwait, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and the Persian Gulf to secure a supply of oil for this nation. In turn, we allow private business to profit handsomely off of that same supply and a faction fights any effort to make them pay a fair share of taxes on those profits.

America lives = Oil Profits.

THAT is what is screwed up, Libby. Not giving Grandma health care...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   13:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Liberator (#75)

Tax "cuts" are merely the People's refund for being overcharged in the first place.

How can you "refund" money when you're in debt $5trl+?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   13:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Liberator, war (#76)

You've missed the irony. As usual.

Let's see..... now that you've lost big time, it was all a joke.

You've now played every card, including batting your eyelashes at war. You're too funny.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   13:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: mininggold (#79)

You've now played every card, including batting your eyelashes at war. You're too funny.

Lol...Any don't forget the olive.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   13:36:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: war (#78)

How can you "refund" money when you're in debt $5trl+?

For the record, IMO Bush bribed the American people with his "Tax Cut" in exchange for looking the other way as he was involving us in his fake trillion dollar war.

Comparatively speaking though, those tax cuts/refunds are a mere pittance compared to War Tax, the Plantation Tax, and the Fedgov Drone Tax.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   13:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Liberator (#80)

Take a hike you snorefest sloganeer.

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-07-28   13:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Liberator, war (#66)

Secondly, the WH and the Dem Houses have virtually blown up the country a thousand different ways since 2009, yet you two are whimpering about - of ALL things - the Citizen United decision? Gimme a break.

Hey, cut him some slack. At least he's not whining about Bush v. Gore in the 2000 election! The Wayback machine is moving forward ever so slowly - Citizens United was what? 2010?

Seriously though, this illustrates but one reason why the insane left usually prevails - they never ever ever ever ever ever ever let go. And they never ever ever ever ever ever forget.

While sane people only do this for a diversion (we have a life and jobs, after all), those on the insane left eat, drink, sleep and even shit this stuff.

It's sad, really.

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-07-28   13:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Get Outta Dodge!, war (#83)

Hey, cut him some slack. At least he's not whining about Bush v. Gore in the 2000 election!

Thank God for small favors.

Citizens United was what? 2010?

Yeah - I can see how that reeeealy effed up the country (*triple eyeball roll*)

Seriously though, this illustrates but one reason why the insane left usually prevails - they never ever ever ever ever ever ever let go. And they never ever ever ever ever ever forget.

Moreover, their collective memories are selective, myopic, and delusional.

While sane people only do this for a diversion (we have a life and jobs, after all), those on the insane left eat, drink, sleep and even shit this stuff.

Absolutely true. Of course even IF they have a "job," the Union Bots and Plantation Parasites are usually manning the protests and riots during mid-day weekdays.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   13:48:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Biff Tannen (#82)

Biffy - We're tired of your dopey trademark photo and $.02 worth of "blah-blah."

Seriously - When will you start aspiring to contributing to legit debate? Even those I disagree with politically here do so.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   13:51:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Liberator (#85)

Fuck off.

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-07-28   13:52:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Liberator (#80) (Edited)

Lol...Any don't forget the olive.

I forgot that your fellow Israel Firsters would soon be here for their patented mock and smirk dance on your behalf. Why don't you give us some of those OT Bible quotes you are known for posting?

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   13:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Biff Tannen (#86)

Aaaw, Biffy, Buffy...Having a bad hair day?

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   13:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: mininggold (#87)

I forgot that your fellow Israel Firsters...

Let's play Wheel of Fortune:

Y_U ARE CLU_L_SS.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   13:59:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Liberator (#81)

Great to see you posting again on LF.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   13:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Liberator (#89)

Why don't you give us some of those OT Bible quotes you are known for posting?

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-28   14:00:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: buckeroo (#90) (Edited)

Thanks Buck.

We'll see what happens here.

LP is no longer a forum that is fairly or honorably moderated...

How can it be when Blackmailers, ID Snoops, Alaskan Gay Canaries, Chronic Disruptors, ACLU Snipers, Liars, and Saboteurs are endorsed by a bought-off/out Owner?

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   14:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: mininggold (#91)

Why don't you give us some of those OT Bible quotes you are known for posting?

I am?

Lol...

So which OT scripture REEEEALY bugs you??

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   14:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Liberator, yukon, Gatlin, harrowup, WhiteSands (#92)

Alaskan Gay Canaries

Funny that you should bring that up. My comment is about your tagline and it got me to thinking about the CT that "yukon" professes along with his stalwart crew of gay idiots. Since March 27, 2011 "yukon" has made some 7050 posts (94 pages of posts X 75 posts/day = 7050) Some were purged by Goldi-Lox. So that is a minimum number.

What is important to note is your tagline date/time stamp for the infamous "yukon" thread which has entirely disappeared from LP's history cache.

The time stamp is about 1:30 PM, March 27th. Are you or anyone aware "yukon" normally arrives on LP (throughout his ENTIRE posting history on LP of seven years at about 1:30PM) about that time each and every day? After his daily rants between 2-5 AM (EST) he drops off and resumes his rants upon his next day.

If not, it is something to think about. Here is why:

Why would a "hacker" whom stole "yukon's" password WAIT for any time period or lag to create the "infamous yukon thread" so it was timed almost precisely with his regular daily posting activities?

Yukon lives somewhere in Alaska which is 4 timezones away from EST LP timestamps. That means that after he wakes in the morning and handles any chores, he gets right on his computer for LP and his other fun and frolic.

Check out his posting history on LP, yourself. He has accumulated more than 110,000 posts through a 6-7 year period AND he starts his antics about 1:30PM each and every day!

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   14:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#83)

Seriously though, this illustrates but one reason why the insane left usually prevails - they never ever ever ever ever ever ever let go. And they never ever ever ever ever ever forget.

I'll PING you when one of you're compadres offers up the typical "BUT CLINTON....!!!" counter-point. Padlock does it once a day.

The decision was mentioned to illustrate a point about the state of our republic and was given wholly in that context.

While sane people only do this for a diversion (we have a life and jobs, after all), those on the insane left eat, drink, sleep and even shit this stuff.

The role of "Badeye" has already been taken by Boofer.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   14:14:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: buckeroo, liberator (#90)

Great to see you posting again on LF.

It REALLY is ...

LOL!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   14:14:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Liberator (#84) (Edited)

Yeah - I can see how that reeeealy effed up the country (*triple eyeball roll*)

On one hand you roll your eyes at that and then on the other offer this gem up:

"For the record, IMO Bush bribed the American people with his "Tax Cut" in exchange for looking the other way as he was involving us in his fake trillion dollar war."

The TaxCut and his "fake trillion dollar war" benefited the main benefactors of Citizens United. Until you understand that, you'll never get it.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   14:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Biff Tannen, Liberator (#86)

Fuck off.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-28   14:19:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: buckeroo, Liberator, yukon, harrowup, WhiteSands (#94)

Check out his posting history on LP, yourself. He has accumulated more than 110,000 posts through a 6-7 year period AND he starts his antics about 1:30PM each and every day!

He has amazing stamina and stalwart courage that makes him invincible to all attacks … that just burns your ass up.

LOL!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   14:19:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: buckeroo (#94)

he gets right on his computer for LP and his other fun and frolic.

Cruising gay websites.

-------------------------------------
Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-07-28   14:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Gatlin (#99)

You didn't answer my question, Major Tater. Here it is again:

Why would a "hacker" whom stole "yukon's" password WAIT for any time period or lag to create the "infamous yukon thread" so it was timed almost precisely with his regular daily posting activities?

Then again, you avoid scrutiny at all costs similar to the reast of your LP Kloughns.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   14:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: war, Liberator (#13)

War, let's be intellectually honest here; BOTH Parties ran up this un-godly debt. And BOTH Parties must ratchet down the un-godly spending.

Let's be completely honest about it. There ain't no such critter as "BOTH parties". There is only one party,with two competing branches to see who gets to skim the most graft.

We are now a One Party Nation,and have been ever since Reagan left office.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-28   14:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Gatlin, liberator (#96)

It is interesting to note your post timestamps on this thread, timed with mine with about a one minute lag.

Are you stalking us?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   14:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: sneakypete (#102)

Sneak...I'll give you props on this: You have been the most consistent poster in going after BOTH parties and you have been for years...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-28   14:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: buckeroo (#103)

Nah, you are anticipating my posting ... great job!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   14:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: buckeroo (#101)

You didn't answer my question, Major Tater. Here it is again:

How would I know the answer to your question?

Why ask me ... I am not into hacking.

Ask someone who has technical knowledge on how to do it and interest in doing it.

They would be more qualified to answer your question.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   14:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Gatlin (#105)

I am curious. Why don't you take a moment and answer my question in post #101? Are you afraid? Dispute the continuing evidence about your fucked-upped GAY CANARY.

Ah, that's right you can't. You play tricks because that is all you have to say.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   14:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: ALL (#101)

Why would a "hacker" whom stole "yukon's" password WAIT for any time period or lag to create the "infamous yukon thread" so it was timed almost precisely with his regular daily posting activities?

Hey, everybody ... Bucky has a question.

Can anyone help him with the answer?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   14:47:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Gatlin (#106)

So, you have no "reason" and defer the issues into a technical melodrama wherein there are no witnesses but "yukon" himself.

You smell like a deadfisch, pal.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   14:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: buckeroo (#107)

I am curious.

Bucky, you are always curious ... you were born that way.

That may be the root cause of all your problems.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   14:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Gatlin (#108)

Why are you asking for EVERYONE to help you? Can't you answer the question?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   14:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: buckeroo (#109)

You smell like a deadfisch, pal.

Keep you damned nose away from my penis ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   14:49:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: buckeroo (#111)

Can't you answer the question?

A smart man never asks a question that he does not already know the answer.

You obviously are not too smart ... are you, Bucky?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   14:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Gatlin (#112)

Incredible retort! Fully, your style to play around using explicatives as always. Still, answer the question:

Why would a "hacker" whom stole "yukon's" password WAIT for any time period or lag to create the "infamous yukon thread" so it was timed almost precisely with his regular daily posting activities?

Of course, as opposed to watching your squirm and playing all sorts of tricks, you can simply confess your own sins.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   14:53:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: buckeroo (#111)

You are so much fun ... gotta go for now.

à tout à l'heure

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   14:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: buckeroo (#114)

you can simply confess your own sins.

I have no sins to confess.

If I did, I would find a Priest.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   14:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Gatlin (#113)

Move the goal posts from a simple question, 'eh?

Answer the GODDAMNED question:

Why would a "hacker" whom stole "yukon's" password WAIT for any time period or lag to create the "infamous yukon thread" so it was timed almost precisely with his regular daily posting activities?

But you can't. You are squirming because you see the light.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   14:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Gatlin (#116)

If I did, I would find a Priest.

Somehow, I am pretty sure you already have.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   14:56:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: buckeroo (#117)

You are squirming because you see the light.

I always see the light.

The halo around my head shines brightly.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   14:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: buckeroo (#118)

Somehow, I am pretty sure you already have.

Only to make a charitable donation.

Speaking of donations, are you going to donate to Ron Paul again?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   14:57:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Gatlin (#119)

The halo around my head shines brightly.

Please explain, I think many people want to hear and understand how you are a fucking traitor to any truth.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   14:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: buckeroo (#121) (Edited)

Please explain,

Nah ... no need to.

Make up your own story ... you have proven to be an expert doing that.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   15:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: buckeroo (#121) (Edited)

You are so much fun ... I really need to go.

à plus tard

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   15:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Gatlin (#108)

"Why would a "hacker" whom stole "yukon's" password WAIT for any time period or lag to create the "infamous yukon thread" so it was timed almost precisely with his regular daily posting activities?"

Hey, everybody ... Bucky has a question.

Can anyone help him with the answer?

Me...Me...Me

(frantically waving arms)

I can...I can...I can...

(jumping up in excitement)

But, I won't

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-28   15:05:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Gatlin (#122)

So, why are you on a chit-chat channel? Aren't you aware your comments should be tempered with a grain of truth? Your butt-buddy, "yukon" fucked himself.

And in the light of your attempt to repel the evidence as I present, you are in fact a GODDAMNED LIAR AND A SON-OF-A-BITCH along with Goldi-Lox and the rest of the LP Kloughns.

I notice the LP ratings continue to sink as you go forward in your own attempt to create havoc. Such a shame. LP was so much better before you and your gang o' thugs took over.

Lost ratings on a chit-chat channel is a problem for you, too. It means that few take you seriously anymore.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   15:05:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: buckeroo (#94)

Since March 27, 2011 "yukon" has made some 7050 posts (94 pages of posts X 75 posts/day = 7050) Some were purged by Goldi-Lox. So that is a minimum number.

Holy crap. Does the canary have a life?? (btw, do us all a favor - don't ping those lying, azzhole disruptors and vulgar blackmailers. Thanks.)

Are you or anyone aware "yukon" normally arrives on LP (throughout his ENTIRE posting history on LP of seven years at about 1:30PM) about that time each and every day?...Why would a "hacker" whom stole "yukon's" password WAIT for any time period or lag to create the "infamous yukon thread" so it was timed almost precisely with his regular daily posting activities?

Many of us do NOT believe the "I WUZ HACKED" meme and never will.

The timing of the post was indeed crucial. And then we were all asked to suspend logic and common sense during this convoluted CT episode by the Liars and Blackmail Crew while ignoring the whispers-of-collusion in real time. Some of us remember THAT clearly. Moreover, NO one has ever posted gay porno at LP - nevermind a second time. I was one of those who gave yukon the benefit of doubt the first time.

It really comes down to the reputation, credibility and the evidence at hand of the canary and his cabal of liars. Once the blackmail card was used, all bets were off. One can NOT be threatened, coerced or blackmailed by a fake narrative into accepting a lie without proof otherwise. Not even several months or years later.

Check out his posting history on LP, yourself. He has accumulated more than 110,000 posts through a 6-7 year period AND he starts his antics about 1:30PM each and every day!

That is simply...sad.

Buck, I'm commenting on this insane episode again only to help you clarify the some of the considerations that may have needed to be addressed. I don't want to dwell on cover-ups and fairy tales by a committee of colluders. They are what they are. Forum Trolls and...but perhaps even the co-composite "poster" who is called "yukon" is responsible for mistakenly clicking the "wrong link." You'll note they even have almost finished each others sentences - they are that intimate with one another. Odd, isn't it at a forum with no email feature. There is more proof of this theory as there is of the "hacked" meme.

Disagreeing with and disliking other posters politically is one thing; But not at the expense of trashing forums and undermining debate purposely.

None of us are perfect, but I also know you can be provocative, overbearing, and over the top yourself at times. You're honest enough that you would readily admit this about yourself. I do also realize however that Goldi's 0bama-like double-standard of ethics enforcement disturbed you and many of LP's posters as well; I know you love your country, and are distraught over its direction; And I do enjoy your wit and commentary on occasion.

No Buck, it's not been fair how Goldi-Lox has treated the forum of Liberty Post, ignored or selectively enforcing the rules of behavior and hung out many a good conservative poster out to dry. The only explanation seems to be her change in agenda for that forum and/or she has sold out interest to silent partners (which would explain why a poll conducted reflected 90% of the posters regarded yukon has the "#1 Disruptor" and a Blackmailer from the ACLU slanders with impunity.)

Honestly, we no longer need to be distracted by the Statists or dwell on the rabid troll of a poster at LP and the Hoax-sters. Rome is burning. Perhaps LF is a better venue at which to address the Insanity.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   15:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: harrowup (#124)

Of course you can't. You are a conspirator on LP. Your channel ratings are losing BTW. Why is that? You ringmasters of a CT are not to be trusted; this means your posts suck and worth as much as yukon's infamous, ... used the wrong link.

I am happy for you. You did good.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   15:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: buckeroo (#125)

I notice the LP ratings continue to sink as you go forward in your own attempt to create havoc.

That place is boring and so predictable any more. A couple of dozen regular posters including The Yukons going at each others' throats all the time but, as you observe, at a slower pace now.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-28   15:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: buckeroo (#125)

you are in fact a GODDAMNED LIAR AND A SON-OF-A-BITCH

Had to return ...

Then take it out on me on Sunday morning at LP.

Do your thing.

I will be waiting.

Or, have you just been talking outta your ass ... AGAIN?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   15:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: buckeroo (#125)

It means that few take you seriously anymore.

You worry about that ... no need to, but thanks anyway.

You are so compassionate ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   15:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Liberator (#126)

I was one of those who gave yukon the benefit of doubt the first time.

I did too.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-28   15:13:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Liberator (#126)

btw, do us all a favor

He won't listen to YOU ... he listens to NO ONE!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   15:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: sneakypete (#102)

Let's be completely honest about it. There ain't no such critter as "BOTH parties". There is only one party,with two competing branches to see who gets to skim the most graft.

We are now a One Party Nation,and have been ever since Reagan left office.

Pete, you know we agree on this...oh, maybe 90% :-)

There is a fragment of the GOP that clings to the Founders' principles. But we know they'll never be allowed to enforce the Constitution or legislate on OUR behalf.

(As you like to put it) Bush 1, 2, 3, and 4 have all protected and shielded each others' dirty deeds,promoted globalism- while sabotaging EVERY facet of the USA.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   15:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Fred Mertz (#131)

("I was one of those who gave yukon the benefit of doubt the first time.")

I did too.

That was the fair thing, Freddy. But after the second time, all bets were off.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-07-28   15:15:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: buckeroo (#127)

Of course you can't.

I can...I can...I can...

But, I won't

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-28   15:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Gatlin (#129)

I will be waiting.

That is exactly what I want to hear, Major Tater. And while you arre at it, feel free to hold your breath as I shall do anything I want at anytime as I see fit beyond your characteristically silly mantra.

Perhaps, Friday is a better day than Sunday. I dunno.... I shall think about it.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   15:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: harrowup (#135)

You recognize that you appear like a "Special Olympics" champion with your centered screen HTML and bold ASCII with your prophetic statement, dontcha?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   15:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Fred Mertz (#128)

That place [LP] is boring and so predictable any more. A couple of dozen regular posters including The Yukons going at each others' throats all the time but, as you observe, at a slower pace now.

But the question is why? I want to take a moment and answer: it is purged except for those that agree with Goldi-Lox and her merry band of homosexuals.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   15:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: buckeroo (#138)

it [elPee] purged except for those that agree with Goldi-Lox and her merry band of homosexuals.

Bucky, you really crack me up and your statement is mostly true.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-28   15:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: buckeroo (#138) (Edited)

Let's see, so far you hate Jews, the handicapped, homosexuals and authority.

Care to clarify and/or extend?

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-28   15:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: buckeroo (#136) (Edited)

Perhaps, Friday is a better day than Sunday. I dunno.... I shall think about it.

Friday will be fine ... whatever fulfills your desire.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   15:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: harrowup (#140)

Let's see, so far you hate Jews, the handicapped, homosexuals and authority.

Care to clarify and/or extend?

Himself?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   15:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: harrowup (#140)

He hates goats and goat-herders too.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-28   15:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Fred Mertz (#143)

He hates goats and goat-herders too.

Horse racetrack junkies too.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   15:34:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Liberator, Gatlin (#126)

I'm commenting on this insane episode again only to help you clarify the some of the considerations that may have needed to be addressed. I don't want to dwell on cover-ups and fairy tales by a committee of colluders.

Excellent viewpoint. This "yukon" issue has brought down LP, it is struggling anymore for "hits" which is the reason Goldi-Lox has removed several threads by Gatlin.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   15:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: harrowup (#140) (Edited)

Let's see, so far you hate Jews, the handicapped, homosexuals and authority.

Citations required to be cited. Please link my posts to support your silly views. Search to kingdom-come.

Care to clarify and/or extend?

You should perform the same based on your own pathetic accusation.

I wager you can't do SHIT other than go out in the backyard and hump a goat.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   15:38:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Gatlin (#144)

This Saturday at Ellis Park they're having the camel and ostrich races with real famous jockeys on board. It usually draws the largest crowd of the meet with lots of families with children attending. I saw it about three years ago and it was fun.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-28   15:39:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: buckeroo (#145)

... removed several threads by Gatlin.

TWO!!!

Put you shoes back on ... you need count only on one hand.

Exaggeration for increased emphasis ... didn't work.

LOL!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   15:40:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Fred Mertz (#147)

ostrich races

They have ostrich races here in the Valley of the Sun also.

Huge ostrich ranch alongside I-10 between Phoenix and Tucson.

My buddy fed one ... bit the hell outta his hand when it took the food.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   15:43:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Gatlin (#149)

They have ostrich races here in the Valley of the Sun also.

Do they put jockeys on their backs?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-28   15:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Fred Mertz (#150) (Edited)

Do they put jockeys on their backs?

Oh, yea ... locals.

I think I said Mesa, actually Chandler ... they border each other

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ese36G5LC-U

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   15:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Gatlin, calcon, We The People, Beyond the Sea, many others (#148)

You FUCKED good and decent posters on LP. You FUCKED your chat channel. You FUCKED everyone with your filth, lies and obvious treachery.

You are an issue to LP. You are making a mockery of a once proud chit-chat channel and few post anymore.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   15:50:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: buckeroo (#152)

You FUCKED good and decent posters on LP. You FUCKED your chat channel. You FUCKED everyone

Man, Oh Man, I am some kinda FUCKER ... according to you.

But then ... who listens to you?

ROTFLMAO ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   15:52:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Gatlin (#153)

I am some kinda FUCKER ... according to you.

Your continuous purges by complaining to Goldie-Lox as a result of your own suggestions are the reason why spirited debate rarely exists anymore.

Of course, your butt buddy "yukon" was the center of your circle jerk activities.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   15:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: buckeroo (#154)

I have no influence with Goldi, no one does ... but of course, you know that.

Defending anyone against a concentrated gang bang attack will always be at the center of my attention ... but of course, you know that too.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   16:01:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: buckeroo (#154)

Gotta go, really ... market just closed.

Hey, Bucky ... I did enjoy our exchange.

Let's do it again sometime ... if that's okay with you?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   16:03:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: buckeroo (#146)

Citations required to be cited. Please link my posts to support your silly views. Search to kingdom-come.

No sooner said than done.

All the citations are on this page.

Read them.

Bye now, dumbass.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-28   16:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Gatlin, Fred Mertz (#151)

Do they put jockeys on their backs?

Boxers.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-28   16:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: Gatlin (#155)

I have no influence with Goldi, no one does

As is always more lies. LP is all about ISRAEL ALL THE TIME before America.

The lies, the scandals, the controversy, the conspiracy theories is what got you folks in trouble. Then, "yukon" slipped-upped proving the cover-ups.

And your recent purging has shown the power you wield. It is all about lies too. I am happy to see you folks descend into the cesspool.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   16:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: buckeroo (#159)

News Flash

Bucky Sad He Didn't Accomplish Squat

That's not a news flash. Bucky never accepts responsibility for his acts passive or aggressive.

He won't because he can't; he is a sociopath.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-28   17:09:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: harrowup (#160)

The outcome is much more significant than your musings.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   17:42:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: buckeroo (#161)

The outcome is much more significant than your musings.

The outcome is that you are neutered and that is not something you can muse about, dumbass.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-28   18:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: harrowup (#162)

Oh no, you are gravely mistaken as in your EPIC drama about a self-confessed queer. You are a loser. Your team "yukon" are losers as individuals. Your home chit-chat channel is a loser.

All in all, I would say you can't predict anything; and this tirade of yours has been on-going four months now, LOSER.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   19:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: buckeroo, Gatlin, Harrowup (#125)

Yukon isn't here. If you want to discuss him go to LP or the peoples scrotum.

You are way off subject.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-28   19:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: A K A Stone (#164)

Exactly how? As you know, "yukon" is a detestable sort. He has managed to gain a reputation calling EVERYONE a queer for years. When he came out of the closet four months ago, he basically claimed that he was a hypocrite through those same years of posting.

What is the actual problem is LP's management for allowing these shenanigans. You see the issue is all about lies, conspiracies and BS that is tolerated on LP day in and day out. The LP channel has lost ANY credibility because of the way "yukon" has been granted a pass.

I am intrigued by your remarks, too. You permit these obvious Kloughns to come here anytime they fucking feel like it. And, you never say a fucking word to them. Hypocrisy is everywhere so it seems.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   19:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: A K A Stone (#164)

Yukon isn't here. If you want to discuss him go to LP or the peoples scrotum.

You are way off subject.

I have no control over what your members do here or at LP. I have no control over what LP members to there either. Your members can understand this dispute is done or continue to abuse others. If you wish to keep this stupidity off your forum then do so. If you wish to keep me off your forum then do so.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-28   20:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: war (#104)

You have been the most consistent poster in going after BOTH parties and you have been for years...

Thanks,but I'd like to remind you there is only ONE party.

Those of you on the left have been getting as hosed as we on the right. And like us,it's the people you vote for who are the most guilty of hosing you.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-28   20:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Gatlin (#110)

Bucky, you are always curious ... you were born that way.

That may be the root cause of all your problems.

There is something wrong with being curious? Since when?

Curiosity is a basic human trait. It is what has led to all the inventions that have improved the living conditions and knowledge of mankind.

Without curiosity we are machines.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-28   20:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Gatlin (#113)

A smart man never asks a question that he does not already know the answer.

Yeah,Jonas Salk was a total fucking idiot,or he would have never asked himself,"Hmmm,I wonder if I can inject people with a weakened version of the polio virus and create a vaccination?"

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-07-28   20:30:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: buckeroo (#165)

Exactly how? As you know, "yukon" is a detestable sort. He has managed to gain a reputation calling EVERYONE a queer for years. When he came out of the closet four months ago, he basically claimed that he was a hypocrite through those same years of posting.

What is the actual problem is LP's management for allowing these shenanigans. You see the issue is all about lies, conspiracies and BS that is tolerated on LP day in and day out. The LP channel has lost ANY credibility because of the way "yukon" has been granted a pass.

I am intrigued by your remarks, too. You permit these obvious Kloughns to come here anytime they fucking feel like it. And, you never say a fucking word to them. Hypocrisy is everywhere so it seems.

Ok you got your dig in at Yukon. We all know how you feel now. Give it a rest.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-28   21:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: harrowup (#166)

If you wish to keep me off your forum then do so.

No wish to keep you off the forum. I didn't even read the whole thread. Just trying to get off of that subject and talk about real issues.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-28   21:08:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: sneakypete (#168) (Edited)

There is something wrong with being curious?

Curiosity killed the cat. Because of their curiosity, cats often die from falls, eating ribbon and spinning in the dryer.

A child's curiosity can be a dangerous thing in an unsafe home, when a child's curiosity leads it to explore a high voltage electrical outlet with a metal toy.

Curiosity in an association with exploratory behaviors can be a dangerous thing with harmful consequences.

Ole Pandora had to open that damned box which unleashed upon her the misfortunes of the world.

In this day and time, curious sexual predators are but a mouse click away from enormous amounts of personal information and potentially dangerous social encounters.

Now that I have answered your question, let's follow Stone's instructions in his post above: ... get off of that subject and talk about real issues.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   21:25:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: A K A Stone (#170)

Give it a rest.

Hypocrisy? NEVER.

I suppose you don't read most threads at all and understand the scope of the issues that most poster's feel are relevant to the day. But threads are posted primarily because of a single poster's perspective or the opposite viewpoint, such as in hypocrisy A K A "yukon."

"yukon" is the antithesis of what any good forum wants to see. And, it is interesting to note that you stand by that self-professed queer.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   21:26:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: A K A Stone, buckeroo (#173) (Edited)

Give it a rest.

Bucky will never be able to do that.

It should be easy to see this has become a major problem for him … completely obsessing over it and being paranoid to the point that it is disrupting his ability to think clearly.

Since Bucky cannot control his problem ... it is blatantly apparent that you need to control him, if you can.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-28   21:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Gatlin (#174)

You should stay on your pathetic little chit-chat channel wherein you can co-mingle with GI and "yukon." You are here on LF to perform NOTHING but disruptions.

You are damned lucky that the manager of LF enjoys sucking your dick, too. perhaps he can become a member of your "yukon" club.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-28   21:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: buckeroo (#175)

You were warned dumb ass.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-07-28   21:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: A K A Stone (#176)

You want The Yukons to ruin your forum too? You should listen to Bucky.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-28   21:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Gatlin (#153)

...who listens to you?

You should ask yourself that question Gaylin.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-28   22:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: A K A Stone (#171)

Just trying to get off of that subject and talk about real issues.

As do all of your fair members of whom there are several I enjoy reading their opinions. I register at forums to prevent imposters still trying to get back at me for all of my anti-anti-freeper activity. I don't tell anyone how to run their forum and I take offense to people who do and then go to another forum in an attempt to take it down.

I used to belong to the old Liberty Forum (JohnDeer/OWK/demidog days) and seldom posted there but could check in with the few friends I've encountered over the years.

I don't like to mess up any discussion with off-topic BS and sometimes resist the opportunity to answer my accusers but not often enough. In the future I'll be more selective in answering pings and false accusations.

Thanks

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-28   22:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Gatlin (#174)

How nice of you. You want to get Buck banned "for his own good." What a humanitarian.

NewsJunky  posted on  2011-07-28   22:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: NewsJunky (#180)

GOP ad paints Obama as dupe of Chinese

This is the topic and I just want to point out that it was Nixon & Kissinger who played the Chinese card.

It was the beginning of their NWO, the dumbest accronym in history and the dumbest strategy in our history.

GE making their X-Ray machines in China? Just after bleeding the State of Wisconsin for tax breaks? No taxes in the USA.

Who the hell is the dupe here?

We all are for voting in the bastards year after year. Clean both houses. Impose term limits. Don't make it pay enough for a life long job. Make it truly public service.

Get the princes out of the five sided beauty parlor and keep our finger on only enough nuclear weapons to wipe out every one of our enemies every time they try to rape us.

harrowup  posted on  2011-07-28   22:36:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: NewsJunky (#180) (Edited)

What a humanitarian.

Nah, I am not a humanitarian ... when I offer charity, it is for tax purposes.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-29   0:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Thunderbird (#178) (Edited)

You are listening to me ... obviously, you are posting to me.
Ergo, you have to be listening to me, in order to be posting to me.
Thanks for giving me your attention ... and above all, thanks for listening.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-29   1:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: Gatlin (#182)

Nah, I am not a humanitarian

Just your typical Republican eh?

NewsJunky  posted on  2011-07-29   1:21:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: NewsJunky (#184) (Edited)

Just your typical Republican eh?

Typical?
lol ...
Nah, atypical in every respect.
But of course, you have always known that.
That's why you feel honored to be in my presence ...

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-29   1:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: Gatlin (#183)

You are listening to me ...

Much the same way I'd listen to my neighbors lawn mower at dinner hour.

Shall I tell you what I told him?

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-29   8:41:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Thunderbird (#186)

Listening
is
LISTENING!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-29   8:48:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: Gatlin (#187)

I'm guessing you have lots of pictures of little boys on your computer.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-29   9:25:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Thunderbird (#188)

I'm guessing you have lots of pictures of little boys on your computer.

Nah, you will need to look elsewhere for your kiddie porn.

Since you are searching for it, you may want to ask Naser Abdo for
some links ... but you will find that he is kinda tied up right now.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-07-29   9:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: buckeroo (#117)

Why would a "hacker" whom stole "yukon's" password WAIT for any time period or lag to create the "infamous yukon thread" so it was timed almost precisely with his regular daily posting activities?

Why wouldn't they? Of course they would wait until his normal posting time to make it look like it was Yukon.

But it was Yukon, so you needn't worry about proving it.

He's a gay porn loving weirdo.

-------------------------------------
Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-07-29   10:12:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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