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Title: Comparative Analysis of the Pinguinite Forums
Source: LF
URL Source: http://www.libertysflame
Published: Jun 20, 2011
Author: buckeroo
Post Date: 2011-06-20 00:56:50 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 113321
Comments: 130

I was in process of posting to Fred Mertz on a thread here@LF about the styles of the various managers that was deleted by the LF forum manager.

LP is on decline while LF is on the ascension at the moment even though LF has fewer stalwart posters. I made this point to nolu chan @TPF irrespective of Alexia website ratings that TPF has claimed.

Here are MY ratings for "hit/post ratios WRT articles submitted": LP (declining), LF (ascending), 4UM(flat) and TPF (flat) but in that order.

Goldi has let her channel go to shit based on her continuous babbling about Israel.

Stone is silly and offensive as with Ferret and war, to posters and has a lot to learn to keep his fucking hands off the channel material unless it is obviously out of perspective with the scope of LF.

Christine runs the best channel of the lot and is perhaps the best manager I have ever seen.

Robin is the best technically. I NEVER even knew about her site until Stone talked about nolu chan over there. He is the absolute best poster on the Internet beyond ANY that I have seen.

So, we have different management styles on these channels and the same is true for many others as well. All good managers from the perspective they each want to place the BEST possible within their limited budgets both time and money. But Stone, sometimes has this EVIL streak running down his kick 'em out button. It shall be his own death knell.

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#41. To: buckeroo (#40)

I suppose you regard yourself as an "intellectual" correct?

No. Quite the opposite- I view myself as a guy who somehow grasps things that others (for whatever reason) do not. I look at economics, the same way I look at electrical and mechanical engineering puzzles, and just seem to know the solution... It's as easy to me as when you look at the lawn in front of your house, and say, "oh, the grass is green." In the same way that such a fact would be self-evident to you, it seems to be that way with me, when it comes to engineering and economics.

I don't think of myself as an intellectual, because that would imply that I really need to think about this stuff, to understand the ramifications. Am I working on my doctorate? Yeah. But the reason I'm doing it, is not to become an "intellectual." It's to have the strongest educational safety-net, to assure my family has adequate income for the forseeable future. It's an insurance policy, that's all...

But, have you ever reviewed your own commentary?

Why should I? I wrote it, so what purpose is to be served by reviewing it again?

Do you realize how silly you are with all those pictures in your tag-line?

I really don't care about your opinion.

I enjoy some of your articles.

Fine.

But, to be honest, your commentary sucks.

My goals are two-fold:

1. Post information so that people can understand what's coming, and
2. Shut down the disinformation/statist freaks, who would lead us all to the slaughter, if they could.

If that bruises your sensibilities, I really don't care. If you have full (or as close to full) information on which to make decisions which could very well affect your livelihood, or the survival of your family in the economic hurricane that we're in the middle of, then I'm good with that.

But truly, I don't care if you like me or not... As I told lucysmom the other day, my motives are very simple: get the information out. If we're in a crowded movie theater, and a fire breaks out, would you rather I yell FIRE! or just run out on my own? If you'd prefer and watch the movie, eating your popcorn, until you become "extra crispy," I can't do much about that... But at least I can warn people, and they can make their own choices... But the first thing to do is break the spell of fascination with the ongoing "bread-and-circuses" show, break people away from the distractions, so that they can see what's really going on...

Those that choose to ignore the truth, and believe the more-interesting fictions of the nightly news, I can do nothing for... Those that will wake up, will have at least a choice...

You are akin to a mild-version of Mad Dog.

I don't know what motivates him- and I've never asked. But you know where I'm coming from- for better or worse. And now, knowing this, you can probably understand why- though I'm accused by the forum trolls and disinfo specialists of being a liar, I have absolutely NO reason to lie, and every reason to speak factually.

If that makes it hard to read my commentary, than the answer is simple: don't.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-20   17:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Capitalist Eric (#41)

I really don't care about your opinion.

Yes you do. That is why you are on these chit-chat forums. Of course, it may not be specifically my opinions but never-the-less you are interested in opinions particularly given the frequency of your own posts.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   19:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: buckeroo (#42)

You overestimate yourself.

((((yawn))))

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-20   19:23:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeroo (#27)

If you haven't been banned you don't make *ANY* impact on opinion.

I guess I'm a success then, having been banned on 4um, LP, and here every now and then.

I should try FR again. I'm sure I could get banned there with one post.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-06-20   20:24:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Capitalist Eric (#43)

((((yawn))))

And you are arrogant.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   20:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Skip Intro (#44)

I guess I'm a success then, having been banned on 4um, LP, and here every now and then.

You have made the BIG_TYME!

The goal of posting (for me) is to make a meaningful remarck based on an article or comment. The badge of courage is to state an informed opinion that has impact not hunkering down to a group of elastic rules that are often modified based on bias and ignorance. But, largely I read anymore. There is a lot to learn about a continuous poster by observing what they don't say.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   20:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: war (#9)

Bull...4UM is an anti-Semitic echo chamber

So, if you held the Cuckoo's Nest up to a mirror, you would have 4UM?

Bartcoprules  posted on  2011-06-20   21:42:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: buckeroo (#37)

Do you regard yourself as a non-kook?

Of course.

So you regard yourself as some kind of pseudo-intellectual twit for all this arm chair amateur hour psychobabble?

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-06-21   7:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Ferret Mike (#30)

You'll be back. You attention whores always come back. Btw, I laughed when I read yours and Dickie's posts concerning Stone. Everything you wrote describes you two to a 't'.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   8:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Rudgear, A K A Stone (#49)

"You'll be back. You attention whores always come back."

Actually, I felt I have to return to do one post. I have no desire to be here if I can't bozo Stone's hateful verbiage.

I checked with Neil McIver and my Windows 7 machine and software opened the page on my bozo list.

When you open a new browser in Win 7 and click on an additional tab, you get choices based on frequency of use of the site.

I am not experienced with Win 7 and it seemed like the result I was getting came to the computer and showed Stone with access to my bozo list he should not have unless he had phished or figured out my password.

I cannot make such an accusation and not apologize if reasonable doubt is established by the writer of the forum software.

IF I don't believe in what I post and it could harm the reputation of another, I will take responsibility for that.

I'm not returning, I am really tired of this place because of Stone's lack of rules on posting that remove unfair advantage for the poster's poing of view, and I am tired of the childish squabbling and bull shit Stone allows that does nothing constructive toward the end of running a forum.

I also do not agree with his one self serving rule about the kill file function that would force me to see his hatefulness and immature garbage.

He can leave this account open or close it if he wishes after this post. Because for nw I am on hiatus from here.

And I can feel better about leaving knowing he actually has not been proved to be into personal accounts and that I was able to satisfy my own standards of behavior by correcting the record when it seems I was wrong.

Good luck and I'll be online and in forums, just not here for the time being.

My mistake has a component of a lack of trust that still remains, and I have to respect that. But I do wish you, Stone and others here good luck and wish you the best.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-21   9:04:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Ferret Mike, Fred Mertz, mininggold, Skip Intro, lucysmom, socalv8, buckeroo (#50) (Edited)

Stone, after denying it, was forced to admit that he did read PM's.

I silently bozo'd him this time, i.e., did not tell him this time that I HAD bozo'd him. How does he know that he was bozo'd by me?

It puts the Yukon thing in perspective, too. Stone knows that Yukon is a liar.

All of that taken together puts Stone into perspective...untrustworthy and willing to "protect" a disruptor while showing absolutely no loyalty.

Please note: Due to your account status (Probationed), you may make 10 comments per day. You have made 0 comment(s) so far today.

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--GW Bush

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--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-21   9:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Ferret Mike (#50)

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-06-21   9:26:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Rudgear (#49)

You'll be back. You attention whores always come back. Btw, I laughed when I read yours and Dickie's posts concerning Stone. Everything you wrote describes you two to a 't'.

Yep. But it does keep em out of the bars, and off the street corners....lol

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-21   9:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: war (#51)

All of that taken together puts Stone into perspective...untrustworthy and willing to "protect" a disruptor while showing absolutely no loyalty.

I know you can't see this because you are a gutless turd hiding behind the bozo feature, but you are one of the most disruptive, untrustworthy punk cowards who shows no honor or respect to a site owner who is one of perhaps two people on the Internet that continue to tolerate your shit on a daily basis. The time-out doesn't seem to make an impression on you and you cannot control yourself it seems. If its that bad and all you and your commie cell members can do is insult your host, go to Red Robin's freak show. You'll fit right in.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   10:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Badeye (#53)

Yep. But it does keep em out of the bars, and off the street corners....lol

They have the victim rhetoric down pat. They create the situation where it is necessary to do something and then they cry that they are being picked on unjustly. I can't imaging going through life thinking like this.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   10:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Bartcoprules, Fred Mertz (#47)

Chyea...funny...

Stone just got bitch slapped at 4UM.

Please note: Due to your account status (Probationed), you may make 10 comments per day. You have made 3 comment(s) so far today.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-21   10:16:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: war (#56)

You call that a bitch slapping, Dick? If you weren't such a loser maybe you wouldn't get your widdle feewings hurt and banned or restricted ALL OVER THE INTERNET. Its not you; its everyone else.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   10:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Rudgear (#54)

I know you can't see this because you are a gutless turd hiding behind the bozo feature...

Eight gutless wonders have me bozoed.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-21   10:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Rudgear, war (#57)

If you weren't such a loser maybe you wouldn't get your widdle feewings hurt and banned or restricted ALL OVER THE INTERNET.

And yet his posts have more actual content, as opposed to poop, than most posters here - go figure.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-21   10:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: lucysmom (#58) (Edited)

The most hilarious assertion ever made about you was that you are an ACORN Misinformationist...made even more so given this past April...

I only bozo people who are in attack mode 365/24/7...unless, of course, they are funny even if they don't mean to be...it's why Erica isn't sucking the bozo but Rudy is...Erica has predicted 10 of the last 0 collapses of the US being preceded by hyperinflation. How can you not laugh at that? Rudy is just plain boring.

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"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

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--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-21   10:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: buckeroo (#26)

JT posts on LF. Perhaps he can comment.

He got me banned here too. His actions are all the proof I need.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-21   10:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: buckeroo (#45)

And you are arrogant.

I get that a lot, from ignorant people.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-21   10:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Capitalist Eric, buckeroo (#62)

I'll defend you here, Erica.

You're not arrogant.

You're not smart or good enough to merit it.

Please note: Due to your account status (Probationed), you may make 10 comments per day. You have made 5 comment(s) so far today.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-21   10:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: war (#60)

I only bozo people who are in attack mode 365/24/7...

When people have that much rage, it's internal, and has nothing to do with the issue or persons at hand.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-21   10:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: lucysmom (#58)

I don't se the logic of crying about being kicked off message boards (or signing up for posting privileges) and then filtering people. Whatever.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   10:56:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: war (#60)

The most hilarious assertion ever made about you was that you are an ACORN Misinformationist...made even more so given this past April...

Actually I thought that was pretty funny too.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-21   10:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Ferret Mike, Rudgear, A K A Stone (#50)

rat-boy: ...I am basically done in this forum. So the ten post thing doesn't bother me. Not posting here anymore doesn't bother me either.... This is not hard to do, to leave. And I am doing it for the right reason.

Rudgear: "You'll be back. You attention whores always come back."
rat-boy: Actually, I felt I have to return to do one post.

LMAO!

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-21   11:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: war, buckeroo, A K A Stone (#63)

dummy DwarF: I'll defend you here, Erica.

Dummy, you can't defend yourself. If you could make legit arguments, instead of knee-jerking back into "Disinfo Mode," and resorting to your juvenile personal attacks, you wouldn't have "Due to your account status (Probationed), you may make 10 comments per day" on your posts.

You think your feeble opinion, will be strengthened by the force of your message. In reality, the opposite is true.

You're not arrogant. You're not smart or good enough to merit it.

You lack the ability to judge what is smart OR good.

Hell, your own track-record through FR, LP and now LF, are a testament to your fecklessness. In the battle of wits, you show up with a banana in your hand, and a chip on your shoulder.

Which leads us right back to the following- a direct result of your lack of worth, to the forum:

Please note: Due to your account status (Probationed), you may make 10 comments per day.
I hope Stone gives you the boot.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-21   11:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Rudgear (#49)

You'll be back. You attention whores always come back

Unfortunately the really stupid ones like you never leave.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-06-21   11:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Rudgear, war (#57)

Its not you; its everyone else.

An old chief I used to work for once said, "If you meet more than three assholes in one day, you'd better look in the mirror."

Methinks that dummy DwarF and rat-boy are seeing assholes everywhere they turn...

LOL... Reminds me of the movie "Spaceballs..."

Dark Helmet: Careful you idiot! I said across her nose, not up it!
Laser Gunner: Sorry sir! I'm doing my best!
Dark Helmet: Who made that man a gunner?
Major Asshole: I did sir. He's my cousin.
Dark Helmet: Who is he?
Colonel Sandurz: He's an asshole sir.
Dark Helmet: I know that! What's his name?
Colonel Sandurz: That is his name sir. Asshole, Major Asshole!
Dark Helmet: And his cousin?
Colonel Sandurz: He's an asshole too sir. Gunner's mate First Class Philip Asshole!
Dark Helmet: How many asholes do we have on this ship, anyway?
[Entire bridge crew stands up and raises a hand]
Entire Bridge Crew: Yo!
Dark Helmet: I knew it. I'm surrounded by assholes!

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-21   11:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Skip Intro (#69)

If you don't like my being here, leave. You offer nothing but kissing war's ass for him.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   11:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Capitalist Eric (#68) (Edited)

Which leads us right back to the following- a direct result of your lack of worth, to the forum:

A) The biggest disinformationist here is you. You've been predicting the same doom and gloom for 10 years now. What makes it even more hilarious, is that we've had ups and downs in the economy but not because of any reason you have cited nor anything near the total collapse you've been predicting.

B) You ARE an asshole and seeing you IS seeing three. That's what your "chief" was telling you. If you, Erica, see MORE than three go look in the mirror and see the FIRST three.

C) Stone has no balls. He's well known to have no balls and it's not surprising, given your penchant for wearing skirts, heels and lipstick, that you'd hide behind someone with no balls and egg him on. And I have no record on FR...if I made 20 posts there I've probably over estimated by 5...

D) I still look forward to the day that we may meet, Erica. Posting the Youtube video of you taking those last few puzzled blinks and gasps will be a very happy day on the internet indeed.

Love,
The DwarF

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America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-21   11:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Capitalist Eric (#70)

I remember that scene. Too bad the people who need to take the lesson to heart cannot see themselves in it. I guess being willfully deluded has something to do with it.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   11:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Ferret Mike (#50)

From: Ferret
To: Fred Mertz
Subject: Re:

Stone just banned me. Besure folks know this. Thanks.

Mike

You forgot to apologize for lying about being banned.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-06-21   11:41:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: hondo68 (#74)

As noted by that great philosopher:

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   11:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: war (#60)

The most hilarious assertion ever made about you was that you are an ACORN Misinformationist...made even more so given this past April...

If I remember correctly, that was Nurse Ratched.

Bartcoprules  posted on  2011-06-21   11:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: war (#56)

Stone just got bitch slapped at 4UM.

I saw the heading but the thread was deleted. A K A Goldi has the maturity of a six year-old.

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Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-21   13:22:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Fred Mertz (#77)

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YOU'RE on probation too?

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-21   14:00:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: war (#72) (Edited)

A) The biggest disinformationist here is you. You've been predicting the same doom and gloom for 10 years now. What makes it even more hilarious, is that we've had ups and downs in the economy but not because of any reason you have cited nor anything near the total collapse you've been predicting.

Sure, dummy, SURE... So your contention is that things are just swimmingly good right now.

Consider the following FACTS:

#1 Today, 25 million Americans are either unemployed or underemployed. 6 million of those have been out of work for at least 6 months. The average duration of unemployment in the U.S. is now close to 40 weeks.

#2 The unofficial misery index, which is calculated by combining unemployment and inflation, is now at a 28 year high.

#3 Sadly, if unemployment and inflation were calculated the same way that they were back in the 1970s, the misery index would actually be much, much higher. According to John Williams of Shadow Government Statistics, the current "real" rate of inflation is approximately 11.2% instead of the 3.6% figure that the U.S. government wants us to believe.

#4 Greece is on the verge of complete and total financial collapse. The yield on two year Greek bonds is up to 28 percent. The European Central Bank and the German government have been fighting over what to do to solve the Greek crisis. The truth is that without a bailout the Greek government will default. If Greece defaults, it would be a huge nightmare for world financial markets.

#5 Neil MacKinnon, an analyst at VTB Capital, is warning that a Greek implosion could set off a 2008-style financial crisis....

"The risk of a 'Lehman moment' for the eurozone is increasing"

#6 Spain is also potentially a major problem. The Spanish economy is more than twice the size of the Greek, Irish and Portuguese economies combined. Over the past 12 months, the yield on 10 year Spanish bonds has been rising steadily, and many believe that Spain could be the tipping point that pushes the sovereign debt crisis in Europe over the edge.

#7 State and local governments all over the United States are cutting their budgets and are implementing brutal austerity measures. For example, one small town in Alabama has actually decided that they are simply going to stop paying pension benefits to their retirees. In other areas, teachers and police officers are being fired in massive numbers. UBS Investment Research is projecting that state and local governments in the U.S. will combine to slash a whopping 450,000 jobs by the end of next year.

#8 The middle class in the United States is being systematically ripped to shreds. The poorest 50% of all Americans collectively own just 2.5% of all the wealth in the United States at this point.

#9 It is never a good sign when even the big Wall Street banks start laying off workers. CNBC is reporting that Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and many other big firms on Wall Street are planning some large staff reductions in the months ahead. That is a very bad sign for the economy.

#10 Things have gotten so bad that some mainstream media outlets are actually encouraging Americans to go out and start racking up credit card debt once again. For example, one recent USA Today article was actually entitled "More credit card debt might be good for the economy". Of course the big banks are ready to suck the lifeblood out of anyone that does slip up on making their credit card payments. One major bank has announced that a single late payment could result in a penalty rate as high as 29.99%.

#11 According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the share of national income being taken home by American workers is at a post-war low and is rapidly declining.

#12 Reuters is reporting that many of Wall Street's biggest banks plan to cut their use of U.S. Treasuries starting in August. China has already been dumping short-term U.S. debt. But if most of the big players abandon the market, who is going to buy up the massive amounts of debt that the U.S. government needs to issue?

#13 Dean Baker of the Center for Economic and Policy Research apparently believes that we are already in a depression....

"At some point, the pain of high unemployment may lead to some new thinking in Washington – but until that time, welcome to the second Great Depression"

#14 The U.S. banking system could plunge into disaster at any moment. The FDIC is backing up 7 trillion dollars in deposits with an insurance fund that barely has anything in it.

#15 It seems like almost everyone is talking about the next financial collapse. Renowned investor Jim Rogers recently said the following....

"I would expect to see some serious problems in the foreseeable future….By 2011, 2012, 2013, 2013, I don’t know when, we’re going to have an economic slowdown again."

#16 Legendary hedge fund manager Mark Mobius is bracing for the worst. Just consider the following quote from Mobius that recently appeared in Forbes magazine....

There is definitely going to be another financial crisis around the corner," says hedge fund legend Mark Mobius, "because we haven't solved any of the things that caused the previous crisis."

#17 Between 2007 and 2010, U.S. GDP grew by only 4.26%, but the U.S. national debt soared by 61% during that same time period. It is clearly unsustainable for our debt to be growing so much faster than our economy is.

#18 Peter Yastrow, a market strategist for Yastrow Origer, recently told CNBC the following....

"Interest rates are amazingly low and that, thanks to Ben Bernanke, is driving everything," Yastrow said. "We’re on the verge of a great, great depression. The [Federal Reserve] knows it."

#19 The American people are extremely pessimistic about the economy right now. According to one recent poll, 56 percent of Americans have lost sleep due to the economy and about three-quarters of Americans believe that the nation is on the wrong track.

Bottom line, dummy DwarF, is that the collapse of our economy is happening RIGHT NOW, as I've been predicting for ~7 years...

B) You ARE an asshole and seeing you IS seeing three. That's what your "chief" was telling you. If you, Erica, see MORE than three go look in the mirror and see the FIRST three.

Hmmm... So, by presenting facts- despite all your twisting and gyrations, despite your strict adherence to the Rules of Disinformation- I piss you off so bad that you consider me to be as bad as THREE other posters?

It means I'm getting through, DESPITE your best efforts! Thanks for the excellent feedback! Much appreciated! LOL.

C) Stone has no balls. He's well known to have no balls and it's not surprising, given your penchant for wearing skirts, heels and lipstick, that you'd hide behind someone with no balls and egg him on. And I have no record on FR...if I made 20 posts there I've probably over estimated by 5...

Yeah, riiiiiiiight.... LOL. Going back to the rules of disinformation. Nice mixing of them, BTW. You FAIL.

D) I still look forward to the day that we may meet, Erica. Posting the Youtube video of you taking those last few puzzled blinks and gasps will be a very happy day on the internet indeed.

You and your fellow traitors- who happily enable the overt destruction of my country, and the installation of a socialist police-state- will pay the price for your treachery.

Now STFU, punk. I grow tired of b!tch-slapping you... it's starting to get boring.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-21   14:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: hondo68 (#74)

You forgot to apologize for lying about being banned.

Evidently you're a good wittle poster and never been banned. Stoned banned and unbanned me three times in one day once within minutes. I believe it was because I disagreed with him about the SCOTUS corporate first amendment rights and catching him editing posts.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-21   14:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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