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Title: Deficit Commission's GOP Chair: Seniors Are The 'Greediest Generation'
Source: RawStory
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/ ... -seniors-greediest-generation/
Published: Nov 26, 2010
Author: David Edwards
Post Date: 2010-11-26 12:20:02 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 11148
Comments: 26

Wyoming Republican Alan Simpson has a pretty low opinion of the people that have paid into Social Security all their lives and now need something back.

The co-chair of President Barack Obama's bipartisan deficit commission lashed out at seniors Wednesday because they are unhappy with his ideas for reducing the deficit by cutting Social Security benefits while reducing corporate taxes.

"I've never had any nastier mail or [been in a] more difficult position in my life," Simpson told Jeremy Pelzer at the Casper Star-Tribune. "Just vicious. People I've known, relatives [saying], 'You son of a bitch. How could you do this?'"

The draft report released by Simpson along with co-Chair Erskine Bowles proposed raising the retirement age to 69 by 2070. Additionally, 90 percent of Social Security income would be taxable, as opposed to 82.5 percent as is currently projected.

Critics of the proposal have dubbed the group the "catfood commission" because seniors who see their benefits cut would have to reduce their expenses or find additional sources of income.

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"We had the greatest generation," Simpson said. "I think this is the greediest generation."

Referring to MSNBC's Rachel Maddow as "that," the commission co-chair blamed political polarization for the attacks on him.

"You don't want to listen to the right and the left -- the extremes," he said. "You don't want to listen to Keith Olbermann and Rush Babe [Limbaugh] and Rachel Minnow [sic] or whatever that is, and Glenn Beck. They're entertainers. They couldn't govern their way out of a paper sack -- from the right or the left. But they get paid a lot of money from you and advertisers -- thirty, fifty million a year -- to work you over and get you juiced up with emotion, fear, guilt, and racism. Emotion, fear, guilt, and racism."

One contributor to the liberal website Daily Kos believes that Simpson "doesn't apparently understand the program that it has been his life's mission to destroy."

"[H]is perspective indicates something even more vile: a belief that people's sole source of income, their very livelyhood, is some sort of mass generosity. It isn't," wrote brooklynbadboy. "Instead of working all your life and then spending your elder years destitute, why not take care of the old people now and then when you get old, you'll get yours. It's a deal, not a handout."

I don't see how you can reach consensus with someone like this. There is no middle ground between people who think Social Security is a government handout and reality. To malign people who have worked their entire lives and kept their end of the bargain, he says to them, essentially "you're beat." You cant negotiate with a guy like that. He doesn't believe in keeping his end of the deal. In fact, there is a word for people who take money and then don't hold up their end of a bargain: a thief. I say it is that person who is truly greedy.

It's not the first time Simpson's comments about Social Security have raised eyebrows. In an August email, he described the program as a "milk cow with 310 million tits!"

Simpson told Ashley Carson, executive director of the Older Women's League, that those who oppose cuts to Social Security are "Gray Panthers" and "Pink Panthers."

After his remarks, The New York Times' Paul Krugman called on the president to remove Simpson from the deficit commission.

"At this point, though, Obama is on the spot: he has to fire Simpson, or turn the whole thing into a combination of farce and tragedy — the farce being the nature of the co-chair, the tragedy being that Democrats are so afraid of Republicans that nothing, absolutely nothing, will get them sanctioned," wrote Krugman.

But White House press secretary Robert Gibbs confirmed to reporters that Simpson wouldn't lose his job. "We regret that he sent that e-mail," Gibbs said. We don't condone those comments. But Senator Simpson has and will continue to serve on the commission."

Simpson later released an email to Carson apologizing. "I can see that my remarks have caused you anguish, and that was not my intention."

Simpson's remarks to the Star-Tribune were first noticed by Talking Points Memo.

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#2. To: Brian S (#0)

Its true.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-27   11:24:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Badeye (#2)

Its true.

What's true?

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-11-27   12:21:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Wood_Chopper (#3)

Its true.

What's true?

Didn't seniors overwhelmingly vote for Republicans this year?

go65  posted on  2010-11-27   22:10:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: go65 (#5)

Didn't seniors overwhelmingly vote for Republicans this year?

Who knows. It's a secret ballot.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-11-27   22:27:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Wood_Chopper, badeye (#7)

Midterm voters tend to be older than voters in general. But this year’s midterm voters aren’t just older than the voters who show up when the White House is up for grabs. They’re older than your typical midterm voter, period.

Seniors haven’t made up this big a share of voters since 1994. Twenty-four percent of those who cast ballots this year were over the age of 65 – and their support for Democrats has plummeted. Back in ’94, 48 percent of voters over age 65 backed Democratic candidates. In 2006 and ’08, 49 percent supported the party. This year, that number sank to 39 percent.

Seniors – who say they aren’t fans of the health care bill – have discovered a newfound fondness for the GOP: the Republican Party’s share of the senior vote soared from 48 percent last cycle to 58 percent this year.

Edison Research's Exit Polls showed that those over age 65 voted 57-41 for the GOP.

No wonder Boehner has vowed to block any attempts to cut Medicare.

go65  posted on  2010-11-27   22:43:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: go65 (#8)

You don't KNOW how seniors voted go. No one does.

All you "know" is what Edison Research says was the results of a poll they took, and what someone else says was the make-up of voters.

Have you verified that what they are telling you is the truth?

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-11-28   0:38:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Wood_Chopper (#11) (Edited)

And you know that seniors are greedy how?

go65  posted on  2010-11-28   21:21:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: go65 (#21)

And you know that seniors are greedy how?

Just how fucking stupid are you?

If you can't figure out my position on this matter by reading the thread, it is no wonder you're a dupe for the left.

Get a brain. Get some common sense. Then get back to me.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-11-28   21:55:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Wood_Chopper (#22)

If you can't figure out my position on this matter by reading the thread, it is no wonder you're a dupe for the left.

My apologies, we're in agreement on the below:

It is odd, isn't it. The real bad guy in this whole thing, a government that takes money by force from these people to pay into this Ponzi scheme (called Social "Security) then tells them, "Sorry, we're changing the deal" when it's time for those very same people to collect, is completely let off the hook, while the victims are blamed for the whole thing.

go65  posted on  2010-11-29   10:47:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: go65, Mad Dog (#23)

My apologies, we're in agreement on the below:

It is odd, isn't it. The real bad guy in this whole thing, a government that takes money by force from these people to pay into this Ponzi scheme (called Social "Security) then tells them, "Sorry, we're changing the deal" when it's time for those very same people to collect, is completely let off the hook, while the victims are blamed for the whole thing.

Accepted go. Darn decent of ya.

When there is something like this that you, Mad Dog, and me all agree on, whoever is trying to demonize these senior citizens is toast.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-11-29   12:35:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Wood_Chopper (#24)

No 'demonizing' here. Just noted the obvious.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-29   12:46:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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