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Title: Experts: Mystery contrail was from Chinese missile (Obama cover-up)
Source: WorldNetDaily
URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=230425
Published: Nov 20, 2010
Author: Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin
Post Date: 2010-11-20 15:43:24 by Hondo68
Keywords: a single source nozzle of a mi, Chinese Jin-class submarine-la, clearly observed by NORAD
Views: 19614
Comments: 25


Contrail was recorded in this image by KCBS-KCAL in California

Although the U.S. Defense Department and North American Aerospace Defense Command have speculated publicly that the unidentified contrail of a projectile soaring into the skies off the California coast – and recorded by a KCBS television crew – came from a jet and posed no security threat to the U.S., several experts are raising provocative and disturbing questions about the government's official response, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

Two governmental military experts with extensive experience working with missiles and computer security systems have examined the television video and conclude the mysterious contrail originating some 30 miles off the coast near Los Angeles did not come from a jet – but rather, they say the exhaust and the billowing plume emanated from a single source nozzle of a missile, probably made in China.

They further suggest the missile was fired from a submerged Chinese nuclear submarine off America's coast, and point out that the timing of the alleged Chinese missile shot coincided with an increasing confrontation between the U.S. and China, and was likely meant to send a message to Washington.

Indeed, the Federal Aviation Administration documents that there were no aircraft flying in the area at that time, the night of Nov. 8.

"The question that still must be answered is why NORAD's muted response was simply that North America was not threatened, and later our government approved the lame excuse that the picture recorded was simply an aircraft leaving a contrail," said retired U.S. Air Force Brig. Gen. Jim Cash.

A former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot and commander of an F-15 squadron and an F-16 wing, Cash was assigned to NORAD as an assistant director of operations at the Cheyenne Mountain complex near Colorado Springs, Colo., and is fully knowledgeable of NORAD procedures.

"There is absolutely no doubt that what was captured on video off the coast of California was a missile launch, was clearly observed by NORAD, assessed by a four-star general in minutes, and passed to the president immediately," he said.

Even more ominously, cautioned Cash: "We must question the timing of this shot across our bow. The president was abroad being diplomatic, which means trying to placate China which is becoming overly concerned with our handling a totally out-of-control deficit in spending."

Wayne Madsen, a former naval officer who has worked at the National Security Agency and the Naval Data Automation Command, said the inability to pick up what he described as a Chinese Jin-class submarine-launched ballistic missile isn't the first time U.S. Navy anti-submarine warfare sensors have failed.

Madsen, who today is an investigative journalist, said the Pentagon is working "overtime with the media and on the Internet to cover up the latest debacle. However, even some reporters who cover the Pentagon full-time are beginning to question the Pentagon's version of events ... over the skies west of Los Angeles."

Dr. Lyle J. Rapacki of Sentinel Intelligence Services, LLC, said the contrail incident off the Los Angeles coast is "fraught with peril" due to the defense systems and protocols in place that should have detected the alleged submarine.

"The decision to officially announce that North America was not threatened," he said, "and all the excitement was due to an aircraft leaving a contrail is a decision that reaches beyond the four-star general level and goes directly to a decision made by the commander-in-chief."

G2Bulletin calls to the Pentagon and NORAD for comment beyond previous official statements were not returned. (1 image)

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

Not surprising that it's confirmed as a missile.

As soon as I saw the video, I recognized it for what it was.

What IS surprising, is that people so easily swallow such bullshit, that it was an "optical illusion" or the contrail from a jet.

Un-friggin'-REAL.

Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-11-20   16:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Capitalist Eric (#1)

Not surprising that it's confirmed as a missile.

As soon as I saw the video, I recognized it for what it was.

What IS surprising, is that people so easily swallow such bullshit, that it was an "optical illusion" or the contrail from a jet.

Un-friggin'-REAL.

WND thinks dinosaurs walked with Jesus.

If it was a missile the government would hype that shit up to gain more power. The chinese launching a missile off California would gain Obama 20 approval points.

Rhino  posted on  2010-11-20   17:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Rhino (#2)

If it was a missile the government would hype that shit up to gain more power.

The chinese launching a missile off California would gain Obama 20 approval points.

It would hurt Obama but help the Carlyle Group.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2010-11-20   17:06:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#0)

Experts: Mystery contrail was from Chinese missile (Obama cover-up)

Rubes ...

("Rubes", Definition: derived from "Rube", plural, an unsophisticated person from a rural area; hick. US and Canadian slang for an unsophisticated countryman. [probably from the name Reuben].)

_Jim  posted on  2010-11-20   18:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

uh nope, it was UPS Flight # 902, and the same contrail has already been observed at the same place, at the same time on multiple days.

See: http://contrailscience.com/

Here's the picture from the next day:


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-20   19:45:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rhino (#2)

If it was a missile the government would hype that shit up to gain more power.

Not if it was from the bastard State, some call israel.

Both China and the bastard State were my first thoughts.

It would not be in the USA interests to hype either one. Certainly not by this President Obama.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-20   20:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Rhino (#2) (Edited)

WND thinks dinosaurs walked with Jesus.

I wouldn't know about that, so I can't comment...

If it was a missile the government would hype that shit up to gain more power. The chinese launching a missile off California would gain Obama 20 approval points.
It WAS a missile, dummy. Don't tell me, I'll tell YOU. I know better, since I was involved in this line of work for quite a while... It's not hard to recognize.

As to what it'd do for the kenyan boy, you're also talking out your ass. But no suprise, given your choice of screen-name.

Feh.

Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-11-20   22:30:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Brian S (#6)

it was Badger from "Better Off Dead", he built it and launched it.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-20   23:00:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Capitalist Eric (#1)

As soon as I saw the video, I recognized it for what it was.

Agree. Living much of my life in So. Cal, it looked exactly like a missile shot from Vandenberg, only over the ocean.

I do love the bullshit line also. Man they must think we are really stupid.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-11-20   23:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: go65 (#5)

How do you "excuse" the plume?? A single plume at that?

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-11-20   23:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: go65 (#8)

it was Badger from "Better Off Dead", he built it and launched it.

As good as any explanation I've read so far...

;)

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-21   1:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Capitalist Eric (#7)

You used to be a lot less crazy on LP. What happened? Did your wife star fucking a black guy or something.

Rhino  posted on  2010-11-21   4:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rhino (#12) (Edited)

Bye, bozo.

Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-11-21   9:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: hondo68 (#0)

Indeed, the Federal Aviation Administration documents that there were no aircraft flying in the area at that time, the night of Nov. 8.

A lie.

At 38+ sec a jet transverses the contrail.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-21   10:28:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#9)

Man they must think we are really stupid.

Yep.

I'm not much of a Glen Beck fan, since he blatantly rips off Alex Jones... But Beck said one particular thing that has really stuck with me...

...The next American revolution is far more likely to be like the French Revolution than our first one. (paraphrasing)

I think he's right.

And I think he's right, exactly because they really DO think we're stupid. And there is no worse mistake to make, than to grossly underestimate your opponent (or as Obama calls us, "enemies").

They will live to regret this mistake.

Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-11-21   10:28:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Capitalist Eric, Brian S, All (#7)

I've noted elsewhere that the Russians are completely silent on this.

And also that no one (correctly;} is accusing the Russians. 8D

but the Russians would know exactly within minutes and who exactly did it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-21   10:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Capitalist Eric (#15)

They will live to regret this mistake.

Less than a minute, but they will realize. ;}

Worse than a crime, a mistake.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-21   10:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#10)

did you visit the link I provide above? Here's an explanation:

Flight UPS902 was an MD-11, a three-engine plane that can leave a contrail that looks like it's coming from one engine. Notice that when reduced to scale, the plane itself is barely noticeable, and certainly not when it's as blurred as the CBS footage.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-21   11:08:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: go65 (#18)

Nice photos!

1. How about explaining away the plume?

2. Does said MD-11 make a habit of flying nearly vertical from 0 feet to about 60,000 feet like the object in the video did?

Btw, contrails don't form at the altitudes seen in the video.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-11-21   14:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#19) (Edited)

2. Does said MD-11 make a habit of flying nearly vertical from 0 feet to about 60,000 feet like the object in the video did?

It didn't fly vertical, read the full explanation at the site I provided. (http://contrailscience.com/)

And again, the very next day a similar plume was photographed (photo above), again perfectly lining up with the flight path of UPS 902.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-21   22:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: go65 (#20)

Nope, I'm not buying it.

Now, you've missed the killer point, #1.

Why is that?

You can't refute it and it blows your idiotic MD-11 "theory" to shreds.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-11-21   22:54:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#21)

Nope, I'm not buying it.

Now, you've missed the killer point, #1.

Why is that?

You can't refute it and it blows your idiotic MD-11 "theory" to shreds.

I'm not sure what you mean by "killer point #1", I can look out my window almost any time of day and see contrails heading downward, does that mean a plane is heading for earth, or perhaps might it have something to do with my perspective and the curvature of the earth?

This is a pretty open/shut case, especially again since the same contrail appeared at the same spot/time the next day.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-21   23:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mcgowanjm, Capitalist Eric, Brian S, All (#16) (Edited)

I've noted elsewhere that the Russians are completely silent on this.

Just as you have been on your proclaimed evacuation of the Gulf Coast and the million fatalities caused by Obama/s oil disaster, mcclown!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-11-21   23:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Ibluafartsky (#23)

You no spell real good yucktard.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-11-21   23:35:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Fred Mertz (#24)

Still delusional faggot freddie!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-11-21   23:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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