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Title: Juan Williams Sees Rove-vs.-Palin ‘Civil War’ Inside GOP
Source: RawStory
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/ ... sees-rove-palin-gop-civil-war/
Published: Nov 7, 2010
Author: David Edwards
Post Date: 2010-11-07 13:41:56 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 128104
Comments: 165

The midterm elections brought big wins for the Republicans but they also exposed fractures within the party. Fox News' Juan Williams described Sunday what he called a "civil war" between the establishment Republicans and the tea party.

"I think there is a civil war of sorts going on," Williams said. "We don't talk about it much -- between the Republican establishment and tea party people. It's Sarah Palin [vs.] Karl Rove if you want to personify it."

In no place were the divisions as obvious during the mid-term elections as they were with opinions on Christine O'Donnell, the GOP's Senate candidate in Delaware.

Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin endorsed O'Donnell during the primaries, which may have put the candidate over the top in winning the Republican endorsement.

On the night that she won her primary victory, Rove told Fox News' Sean Hannity that O'Donnell was known for saying "nutty things."

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"This is not a race we're going to be able to win," Rove added.

Following O'Donnell's loss in the general election, Rove said, "Look, it gave me no pleasure to say she was unlikely to win."

"This again proves a lesson. This is a candidate right on the issues, but had mishandled a series of questions raised by the press early on in the race about her background and previous statements."

Palin called out Rove by name after O'Donnell's loss. "I look forward to Karl Rove and others looking at...reporting that exit polls are showing that Mike Castle would have even lost to Chris Coons," she said on Fox News. "There was never any guarantee that a hard-core conservative would win in a deep blue state like Delaware."

But Rove's viewpoint may be representative of other establishment Republicans who weren't fond of O'Donnell.

"I think Delaware was a missed opportunity to have a really good United States senator, Mike Castle, and that's why I endorsed him in the primary," New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said on NBC Sunday.

Rove and Palin also clashed over the former governor's new reality show. Rove told the Telegraph that he failed to see how a reality show helped Palin make a serious run at the presidency in 2012.

"There are high standards that the American people have for [the presidency] and they require a certain level of gravitas, and they want to look at the candidate and say 'that candidate is doing things that gives me confidence that they are up to the most demanding job in the world,'" he said.

The next week, Palin compared herself to another entertainer, President Ronald Reagan, to defend her new show. "Those standards have to be high for someone who would ever want to run for president like, um, wasn't Ronald Reagan an actor? Wasn't he in Bedtime for Bonzo, bozo or something? Ronald Reagan was an actor," she said.

"Now look. I'm not in a reality show. I have eight episodes documenting Alaska's resources, what it is that we can contribute to the rest of US to economically and physically secure our union, and my family comes along for the ride because I am family, family is us, and my family comes along on the ride to document these eight episodes for The Learning Channel. ... So Karl is wrong right there in calling it a reality show," she said.

This video is from Fox's Fox News Sunday, broadcast Nov. 7, 2010.

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#7. To: Brian S (#0)

Laughable how the mainstream media is pretending this is something 'new' or 'odd'.

This is how it goes after EACH election cycle, especially when part of the Congress changes Majority control.

Its minor jockeying for position.

The really interesting fight is within the Democrats House caucus, with the brain dead Pelosi insisting she be retained despite a history making massacre last Tuesday.

Personally, I'm more than happy with the three headed uber liberal beast of Pelosi, Reid and Owe-bama.

Pass the popcorn.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-08   9:21:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Badeye (#7) (Edited)

The really interesting fight is within the Democrats House caucus, with the brain dead Pelosi insisting she be retained despite a history making massacre last Tuesday.

There is no fight there. Pelosi would not have announced she wants to be minority leader if she didn't already have the votes locked in. There might be a fight for the number 2 spot, but Pelosi will be minority leader.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-08   10:22:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: jwpegler (#14)

There is no fight there. Pelosi would not have announced she wants to be minority leader if she didn't already have the votes locked in.

Given she 'announced' last Monday the Dems would retain the House, pardon me if I doubt her grasp of 'reality' here, jw.

That said...probably correct. All that survived last Tuesday are hardcore leftwingnuts.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-08   11:46:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Badeye (#16)

All that survived last Tuesday are hardcore leftwingnuts.

Heath Schuler is a hardcore leftwingnut?

Chuckle.

go65  posted on  2010-11-08   11:48:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#18. To: go65 (#17) (Edited)

All that survived last Tuesday are hardcore leftwingnuts. Heath Schuler is a hardcore leftwingnut?

Is he as far left as the average Dem that survived the massacre? By a small matter of degree, maybe you can make that argument.

See his voting record and how it kow tows to Pelosi the past two years.

The voting record is the record that matters.

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